Women and their problems
 

To the carolinaDG,

Since I'm a DG lover I'll try to put it as nicely as I can.


First off, do you go to USC and are you from South Carolina? If you are then YES you are weird. If you are in college and you have a tendency to date MANY guys for a period of only two weeks and then break up with them, YES that is abnormal. That is something you do when you are in HIGHSCHOOL or Middle School. Why don't you try to hang out with them and as a group of friends before you start dating them actually. You see my theory is this, woman meets a guy that she thinks is cute. Woman spends a few days talking on the phone. Woman goes on a date. The two somewhat hook up. Man plays off the womans emotions. Eventually the woman wants sex and gives in. She gives in because she doesn't want to feel like a slut for having sex with a guy she is not dating ( which is totally an image thing) therefore says to man, "I don't put out unless we are dating." The point is, it's not " a fear of commitment", it's simple---You do not need a boyfriend right now. Believe it or not babe, you can still get some booty without dating someone.

You need to chill with the guy for a couple of weeks before you start dating him. Hang out for some time. Go out to a club and get smashed a few times just to see what kind of person he is when you two are trashed, see if you can handle his issues and he can handle yours. If your not one of those stupid Religous girls that watches the Church channel all the time, have sex with him and see what it's like, only don't tell ANYONE! If the ride feels good buy the car. I have a feeling that you jump into a reltaionship too quick and that is the reason why you have this problem. Trust me girl, I have a vast array of knowledege about chicks and men and the issues of day to day. As far as you feeling like a slut or your friends viewing you as that, I can tell that you are somewhat young, older people know that as you get older you don't feel like a slut when you do such things like have sex with someone. This is just a stage and you will soon get out of it. If you are older and still doing this, you have something wrong with you. Either something has happened to you or to someone you know in your past and it is keeping you from having a relationship. I'm not saying everyone should be in a relationship, some people are not meant to EVER date or get married. The thing is, if something has happened to you in the past and has "made you wiser", then you have not let that thing go or forgave that person and that thing will plague you for the rest of your relationship expierences until you let that hurt go. I'm not saying let your guard down, I am saying be wise but also be openhearted. I myself have a hardtime when I get cold feet. Many of my ex's have said the most fearfull phrases to a mans peepee, " I love you"---"I would marry you"---"I want to have children with you one day"---" I'm in for the Long Haul".It's like an instant heart attack for the penis---The same vagina for the next 30 years---ahhhh!!!!----- Each time i hear something like from a Girlfriend i felt like Loreatta Bobbit came by and castrated me in front of Sorority row while wearing my Pike boxers my Grandma made for me. It scares me but I know why. I know that I have a problem staying faithfull to one woman. I put a girl through complete hell (back in the day, not anytime recent jenn) because i dated her for sometime and cheated on her the whole time, I would wake up in the morning with the one and then by lunch i was eating with the other and nailing her afterwards while still keeping plans C and D occupied with the daily phone calls and occasional visits when A and B were gone out of town. I also know why I am like this. I am like this because I once found a girl I would have given the world for ( Jenn this is a while ago). I was younger and not as knowledgeable of the woman mind as I am now but I told her how I felt. This girl did not look like the model type chicks I go for now but she was everything I wanted in a woman, down to the shape of her nose and face, the shape of her teeth, her voice and laugh as well as the way she moved her hands when trying to instill a theory of hers into my concept of thinking( I'm very picky). I told her one day how I felt, EVERYTHING , you know what she did? ( This is the only time in my life a girl has done something remotely like this to me) She stood up and gave me a long kiss, then walked out the door and never spoke to me again. It put me into depression for 9 months. But has this stopped me? No, why? I had a dream that I was in a room and there were 100 porn stars in it with me. 50 from Germany and 50 from Sweden--( I'm swedish and german)--all light blondes of course and had heavy accents. This dream meant two things (I looked it up), it meant that I AM a stud and it meant there ARE many hot chicks out there waiting for me. If you can't stay in a relationship, don't go into one. I'd say just flirt with ALL of them. This way it makes them all chase you and it gives you the attention you probably need. This also gives you the feeling every woman needs---The feeling of desireableness. By staying single it leaves hope for some pathetic guy to think he actually has a chance with you and it keeps you from getting hurt and looking like a slut.

Seriously, I hope you get your troubles sorted out. I felt the urge to write to a DG as I am wearing an anchor ball shirt my ex-gave me from the formal. If you think it's that bad make out with 5 guys at a club one night and after that you won't feel like such a slut for actually dating men for only a few weeks.

Words of Wisdom from yours truely,
UF

I read this post, and all I can say is - I feel like I just watched an entire season of The Man Show.

33girl- aren't you so sad that we didn't invite him to the Pgh Greekchat get together? I know i'm regretting it :(

I have an upgraded version of the man show I am in cohouts with some of my brothers. I've always been one to be in the spotlight and with that said, show biz won't be any problem for me.

After I make my millions, my retirement plan is not to do nothing, but rather to be the next Jerry Springer.

wow, i am repulsed.

Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

All I can say is that I'm glad that there is at least one man out there that has us all figured out................................:rolleyes:

Wow!!! I can watch the Man Show on GC w/o paying for the cable!!!

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I love that quote!:p It's the reverse of why buy the cow when the milk is free?! :rolleyes:

:eek: http://www.plauder-smilies.de/eek3.gif http://www.plauder-smilies.de/eek5.gif http://www.plauder-smilies.de/eek6.gif http://www.plauder-smilies.de/eek7.gif http://www.plauder-smilies.de/eek3.gif :eek:

Ok, maybe I'm getting soft in my old age or maybe it's the caffeine I ingested earlier that's got me sitting at my computer at 4:15 am, but I detect some sincerity in UF_Pike's post.

KDDani - speaking of the Man Show, while reading this thread, I couldn't help but imagine UF_Pike standing on a stage reciting his post with several sisters from you-know-what-house bouncing bra-less on mattresses behind him!!! lol :eek:

UF Pike, seriously, ever considered writing for a men's magazine?

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I have had both the blessing and curse of growing up around mostly guys. So, I understand you all more than I understand other females on most things. But, it is comments like that leaves me :confused: What's the difference between one vagina and another? P***y is p***y, right?

I'm trying to understand that logic. I mean, when you all hump a girl once, and if you hump her again, does that mean that the p***y is void? It's no longer stimulating or what?

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LOL, its about losing the power of choice.

You might really fall in love with a breakfast food, love eating it every morning, can't really imagine eating anything else, and maybe you have had no thoughts about other breakfast foods at all.

But once someone tells you that you will only be eating that breakfst food and no other, forever, you start looking around and wondering what other breakfast foods taste like

So if you can imagine yourself in the place of the favorite breakfast food with the chap being stuck eating you every morning without fail, variety, or choice for the rest of his natural born existance you have a better idea of his frame of mind.

Of course there is a limit to analogy and a woman is not a breakfast food.

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The topic of whether or not a vagina is stimulating this time and is not the next is irrelevant. Stimulation is a mind thing. It's all in what mood you are in and how you feel about the person.

Here are a few examples: Out drinking vodka all night at a club, you meet some hot blonde. Take her home and both of you are shi_t faced, all you want to do is take it to the bedroom. You light the candles and put on some energizing sex break beat songs, preferably something like BT & Sarah Mclaughin or that song "Stay in love with me".Go throw on more deoderant and don't forget the jimmy. From there on out it's straight up booty knockin all night for the next 4 hours. By this time of night your freak side comes out and more than likely the girl is trashed more than you, so she's game for anything. Women want to be sexually comfortable with themseleves, therefore if the guy is comfortable it makes it all the more better for the woman. Women are just as freaky as men in the mind, only they will not be the ones to initiate porn star sex, we as men have to make the initial move. Anyhow, Vodka sex is fast and for the body. Usally this type of sex is remembered as, "damn that was good" but often is only a one night deal. The next night you don't feel like the same chick with the same circumstance, it's a mind thing. The next time you more than likely want to drink a bunch of wine and have some incense buring, I'd say Nagchampa, then it is more of a sexual thing and this time it is for your mind, have some Brian McKnight kicking in the background with a blacklight or two on in the house (black lights make chicks horny or more succeptable to a sexual expierence from you). They normally like the black lights in the bathroom while the two of you take a shower with only the black light on and having a bottle of the liquid soap Caress is a major plus, women don't like Irish Spring but Dove can do just as well. The stimulation can be brought on by the surroundings, you just have to make the situation seem right but not like you set it up. I sometimes find it the same when I have sex with a girl I have already done it with and another random. It's like my buddy told me, you don't pass up the gravy when the potatoes have already been around.

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LMAO! Never thought of it like that, but damn, gotta admit there's truth in it.

Jenn- Check your cell.


KtSnake- I'm working towards that.

*Rolls eyes*

Jeez, Craig, don't you just have me figured out?!

Yeah, I feel like I'm in high school. The guy that I'm currently seeing, though (still haven't passed the two week mark, though, so let's not get TOO excited) I've known since April. He went to Cream Rose (and he wears his shirt, too... I make him) with another sister. I had a crush on one of his brothers and always went to the "Sigma Chi bar" to go watch him bartend, but ended up getting more the attention of the first guy. Didn't give him a chance until this semester, though, and now we're together. Well, kinda... But we'll see how long this one lasts.

The problem is, actually, not that I'm in high school, but I always have to have the best, so I'm constantly looking around. About a year and a half ago, I was two steps away from being engaged (sad, isn't it?) to a Kappa Alpha from Newberry College (which is known as the best fraternity in South Carolina). His dad's extremely wealthy, he was extremely good-looking, well-dressed, and drove a nice car. But I was dating him for the wrong reasons. The problem is, when we broke up, I couldn't get over the thought that perhaps he was the best I could get, so I was constantly dating what I thought might be the best, without looking deeper. I've dated, now, two fraternity presidents just because I thought they were the best. The problem is, they weren't the best for me.

So, the guy that I'm seeing may not be the fraternity president, or the hot bartender that I was drooling over last semester, but I think he's a lot closer to what the best may be for me. He's still good-looking, nice dresser, GREAT body, but he's that everything more that the other guys didn't have. I laugh all the time when I'm with him, I'm comfortable with him, the brothers all treat me well, and I always get invited to the BEST parties. Well, not like that didn't happen before. ;)

Anyway, like I said, we'll see if I can make it past the two week mark, and then we'll talk. But, the thing is, if we don't, then your theory about hanging out with someone before dating is pretty bogus.;)

PS-I think I might be coming down for the UF game to the DG house... I'm not sure yet about all the details. Just a little FYI for ya.

Amy,

I have a lot to say to your response but not so much time. I'll try to get it all in.


First, you are exactly how I am. I'm the same way as far as always wanting the BEST. Well, I dated this girl for a LONG time, about 2 years. She was the first long term girlfriend that I ever had. (I don't know how I did it.) She is everything I ever wanted in a girlfriend/wife. She is the perfect height, light blonde hair (it's real, not dyed), beautiful blue eyes ( almost as good as mine). She's VERY smart. Has what I think is the best personality, one like mine. She knows how to get on my mothers good side and she gets along with my family very well. Another plus is the fact that she's getting a degree in 2 different types of engineering, which means she'll do fine in life as far as finances go.

Now, heres the icky part. I too feel like I can always find something better out there. There is some truth when people say that. You'll always be able to find someone who is better in some areas than what you have now. Now I'm not saying your in love with this guy, I should hope not yet, but I assume you really like him alot. I just want you to make sure you know the difference between love and lust. I personally am quite familiar with lust. I went out and tried to find something better. I cheated on that girlfriend over and over, just to try and see if I would be contempt with soemthing else and to find out whether or not it was the fact that I had been with her for a long time and that was the reason why I felt the way I did. Well, I screwed up and did what I'm notorious for, I bailed. I went on a binge and did my thing as far as whatever I wanted with whoever. All along I had her in the back of my mind. It kinda sucked because 1 time I just told this one chick to get hell out of my apartment because I felt so guilty. Like a moron I told her I haven't gotten fully over my ex and while I was banging her, my ex kept coming in my head. I got slapped. You can imagine the awkwardness in the room as soon as I told her. The chick couldn't believe what I just told her. Anyhow, after another 3 months of stuff like that going on I couldn't take it anymore. Luckily for me she was going through the same thing as far as being depressed and not wanting anyone other than me. ( I think chicks fall in love with a guy much quicker than guys falling for chicks.)

Finally, after straying away for some time I decided that she was the best I've ever had. True, she may have some things that annoy me but I've found that I can deal with her issues more than the other chicks of the past. To make a long story short, we got back together and have been happier than ever. When we started dating again she asked me how did I know I loved her. I told her she is the only girl I've ever known whos kisses make my skin feel weak. She is the only girl who can get my full undivided attention when speaking, and that when she speaks, her words do not go in one ear and right out the other ( for me thats a big thing because I usally turn on my selective hearing when a chick is yapping to me). I told her that after dating her for the time we did, she's become apart of me and losing her would be like losing a part of myself that I could never get back. Then I threw in alittle humour since she was crying and had her arms around me, I said, "and the fact that you seduced me." She playfully popped me across the face and said it was "inevitable", " I always get what I want".

My point is, if this guy is everything you say he is and he makes you very happy when around him, stay with him. Don't start doing what I normally do and begin to pick out the bad things about your opposite, as well as dwell on the irritative things he/she does. Once that starts happening it's all downhill. You have to open yourself up alittle to this guy and open him up as well.

After the 2 weeks is up, come hit me up.... we'll take this in baby steps. I'll try to help you out as much as I can. 2 weeks will be major progress.

As for the USC and UF game......If I'm not mistaken thats home coming for UF. If you're going to come down here and stay in Gainesville, I'll give you my new cell number and you can hang out with Jenn and the older DGs ( from 98 & 99) at UF. I've told her about you and she said you kinda sound like her before she met me. If you come I'll let her give you her cell number. Most of the older DGs don't go around the house often, their like older pikes, we don't go around the house all that often anymore neither. You and your girls might have the luxury of being able to hang with the south florida greek crowd at UF, we'll show you how to party Florida style. LOL


Hit me up on the email if you want..... Dasangelsman@hotmail.com

*smooches*, Craig

BTW, where did you get this message? I thought this was posted a LONG time ago.

Okay, so I don't know ya'll and it seems like you guys are pretty tight, but I'm going to butt in...

If you have something really, really great, don't be so easily distracted by what could be better. I have done it and what appears better usually ends up not being so (ie. a guy may be really hot, intelligent, fun, etc... but once you get to know him he may have severe baggage/control issues/ any number of problems).

Woah. That's about all I have to say.

UF_Pike, you boggle me. I'm not sure whether, meeting you in real life, I'd love you or hate you.

Probably both.

Cream, you're the diva with the smilies. How on earth do you do that?

KappaKittyKat,

You'd be like everyone else, have nothing but luvvvv for me......

I just had to say that this has been by far the funniest thread I've ever read on GC.

Note to Self: Although one man does not represent an entire fraternity on a national or local level, stay away from Pikes. *scared*
Note to Self #2: Do not let Boyfriend pledge Pike lest he should become perverse enough to be totally incapable of serious commitment. Sigma Chi it is.
Note to Self #3: Try not to continue metaphorically casterating Boyfriend by talking about marriage and children.

Note to Self #1: Although one man does not represent an entire fraternity on a national or local level, stay away from Pikes. *scared*
Note to Self #2: Do not let Boyfriend pledge Pike lest he should become perverse enough to be totally incapable of serious commitment. Sigma Chi it is.
Note to Self #3: Try not to continue metaphorically casterating Boyfriend by talking about marriage and children. -Shark_in_Skirt

Darling,

I understand your sentiments. May I also suggest Phi Kappa Tau for Boyfriend. Last year Mu Chapter's rush posters said, "Every once in a while a man comes along who's not afraid to be a GENTLEMAN!"

I also have had the *fear* when it comes to stereotypes that I know I shouldn't hold because they aren't true. In my case, it's Betas named Chris. Last year I gave the "Watch out for Betas named Chris" speech to several freshman women on my floor who had not watched out for Betas named Chris and had lived to regret it. Now, I'm sure that there are tons of Betas named Chris out there who are fabulous men, but there are enough Betas named Chris in my little corner of the sky to leave me quivering in my boots whenever a cute little freshman girl comes up to me and says, "So I met this really fabulous guy over at Beta last night... His name's Chris."

EEK!

Craig-
I found it by pulling up a search for my name. It was a thread that I honestly had no clue about...

Just figured I'd give the whole update... Sigmachi and I are still doing well after a month (whoa!). I'll give a quick little update, though. I don't want to get too personal, but...

... Numero Uno.. I was out this past Thursday night at another fraternity's party (and no, still not a Pike party, sorry) with the girls, just hanging out. I had decided that night that if I didn't see my man that he was dumped (I hadn't seen him all week). Well, long story short, I ended up calling one of his brothers to find out where he was, and found out he had IM'd me, so I walked all the way back to my dorm to go see his IM, then went over to the frat quad to see him. Ok, let's keep in mind, I may not have been in the best state of mind (when I say I went out, I mean I went OUT... like a rock star).

...So, that night we had the whole, "we're only seeing each other" talk. Wow. Scary stuff for me. Oh, and the other update. My KA ex and I mended our ways. He's now practically engaged, but we figured out what went wrong with us and why we misunderstood each other... i.e. CLOSURE with a capital 'C'

Anyway, so we're doing great now. Haven't talked to him in a couple of days (we said we wouldn't, though... I have 4 tests, a paper, and a quiz this week, and God knows what awful things he has with his schedule) but I'm assuming we'll see each other this weekend. We're both so independent it's scary. The exact reverse of how KA and I were, on the phone every night with each other checking up to make sure we were behaving. I think I just trust the present boy more.

... And, no, I'm not in love... not yet... but you know the little thrill of kissing someone you really are head over heels for? Yeah, I only have to think about kissing him, and it makes me smile. People driving in their cars that see me walking down the street must think I'm psycho.

And the UF/USC game IS homecoming. One of our girls e-mailed the president, I think, or maybe one of the other girls, I'm not sure. If I do get in touch with y'all, keep in mind that I'm an SC girl... don't try to corrupt me TOO much. ;)

Uf Pike does have some good things to say somewhere in his long posts. I'm taking a Communications and Human Relations course and what he's talking about is called "fatal attraction" or in other words things that you once enjoy or love about your partner end up being the things you hate in the end. OR you just find yourself nit picking things just because.

It happens to all of us. I was engaged for 9 months and although I loved the guy with all my heart, they way he treated me started to show through...and those were the things that I started having complaints about. His free spirit wasn't what I needed while being depressed and homesick. He was incapable with communicating so we had a VERY hard time setteling differences that ended up bringing us to shambles.

I don't quite know YOUR situation, but take it from someone who knows....if you start to dislike things then it's probably a no go!

Hootie