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Honeykiss1974 07-18-2002 05:17 PM

Is a hate rally coming to your town this summer?
 
SUMMER OF HATE: Scheduled Events

June 13, 2002 -- Following are some of the hate rallies and concerts scheduled for the summer of 2002.

June 21-22
CCC annual conference
Atlanta, GA
Sponsor: Council of Conservative Citizens

June 22
Stop Non-White Immigration Rally
Eugene, OR
Sponsor: National Socialist Movement

June 28-30
Second Annual BBQ/Cookout
Northern Oregon
Sponsor: Volksfront

June 29
Public protest
Citronelle, AL
Sponsor: Southern White Knights (KKK)

July 4-7
Klonvocation 2002
Goshen, IN
Sponsor: American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

July 12-14
Rocky Mountain Heritage Fest
Denver, CO
Sponsor: Heritage Front Skinhead

July 13
Klan Rally
Atlanta, GA
Sponsor: Free Knights Realm of Georgia

July 18-20
2002 National Conference
Greenwood, SC
Sponsor: League of the South

July 26-28
Aryan Nations World Congress
Ulysses Township, PA
Sponsor: Aryan Nations

July 27-28
Heritage Rally
Charleston, WV
Sponsor: National Association for the Advancement of White People

August 2-4
1st Annual White Pride Fest
Goshen, IN
Sponsor: National Knights of the KKK

August 10
Rudolph Hess memorial concert
Portland, OR
Sponsor: Tightrope

August 10
Rally and cross burning
Newport, TN
Sponsor: America’s Invisible Empire (KKK)

August 17
Rudolph Hess memorial concert
Orange County, CA
Sponsor: Tightrope

Aug 30-Sept 2
Fall Fest 2002
Powderly, KY
Sponsor: Imperial Klans of America

September 14
Texas state conference
Waco, TX
Sponsor: League of the South

October 5
Klan rally
Springfield, TN
Sponsor: U.S. Knights and Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Inc.

aephi alum 07-18-2002 05:54 PM

I tried to PM you, but your box is full.

FuzzieAlum 07-18-2002 05:58 PM

Personally, I think it's good to know where these type of folks think they can spread their influence. It gives us the knowledge to, if we wish, fight back.

Honeykiss1974 07-18-2002 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
Personally, I think it's good to know where these type of folks think they can spread their influence. It gives us the knowledge to, if we wish, fight back.
I agree, but I have cleaned out my PM box, so you may send me a messageif you like.

I actually though it was intersting. I mean, not ALL of these are rallies. Some are conventions, regional conferences, etc which implies to me that they are functioning orgs, probably with a "diverse" (as in economics...i.e. CEO, business man/woman, teachers,etc.) membership.

Tom Earp 07-18-2002 06:28 PM

These People are fu^% Morons! The ones that go fight them are doing the sane thing for their Beleifs! Leveae them alone and they will go away! To be in the dust bowls that they are!

While I would like to kick the living sh$$% out of them, what good would that do!

Da, Look at Northern Ireland and Irsreal and Palestine!?

Is that doing any good! Nope!

Get over yourselfs folks!

We are Humans trying to just make a living!

We are Britghter than the average person or I hope we are! Are You!

:confused:

librasoul22 07-18-2002 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
I tried to PM you, but your box is full. I would like to ask you to consider removing this post.
Why?

@Tom Earp: If we ignore them they will not go away. It doesn't mean we have to rush them with pitchforks and torches blazing, but it is good to at least be aware of their activities and know that they still exist.

aephi alum 07-18-2002 07:03 PM

Honeykiss1974, I PM'd you.

Librasoul22, you do have a point. In my PM to Honeykiss1974 I suggested just listing the events and the cities, without correlating them and without stating the dates. That way, we know where the events are happening, and we know what they are, but we don't run the risk of someone seeing the post and thinking "There's a rally and cross burning coming up! Pile the kids in the pickup, let's go!" Knowing about the events is fine; driving people to them is not. We don't need to be doing the KKK's advertising for them.

Honeykiss1974 07-18-2002 11:23 PM

Chances are that if someone shared the beliefs of those organizations listed, they probably already know about the event.
Also, I think it would be more of "Hey honey, did you buy the tickets to the League of the South regional conference?". As I stated earlier, not all of those events are rallies. Some are professional conferenceswhere ita attendees could be people that we all work with everyday. And the usually don't drive a pick-up ;)

Additionally, there a lot of non-confrontational ways to "protest". For example, in an Alabama town, the KKK planned to have a march in the city's downtown area. When they arrived, every downtown business had closed for the day. No one was there but the KKK and the police.

BTW, this information comes from a very informative website called www.tolerance.org . They track ALL hate groups (regardless of race, sex, class, etc.)

DeltAlum 07-19-2002 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by librasoul22


Why?

@Tom Earp: If we ignore them they will not go away. It doesn't mean we have to rush them with pitchforks and torches blazing, but it is good to at least be aware of their activities and know that they still exist.


Actually, in some cases they might just go away. Some of these folks are into this stuff for some misguided belief or philosophy -- others are just in it to start fights and get publicity.

In some cases, not all, I suspect that if we just ignored them, they would simply vanish.

JMUduke 07-19-2002 11:50 AM

I dont understand. what is a hate rally?

Honeykiss1974 07-19-2002 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum



Actually, in some cases they might just go away. Some of these folks are into this stuff for some misguided belief or philosophy -- others are just in it to start fights and get publicity.

In some cases, not all, I suspect that if we just ignored them, they would simply vanish.

Well, I am not actually sure what you and Tom mean. Are you saying that we should "hide our heads under the covers until the boogie man leaves" or are you suggesting an approach similliar to the non-confrontational example that I had given earlier? :confused: Please expand on your thoughts :)

Because right now, I'm getting the message they you guys are saying for us to just pretend they don't exist and they will disappear. I thinks that a little naive and I believe we have tried that (over many, many years) and these types of orgs are still here.

thetakates 07-19-2002 12:00 PM

It doesnt really suprise me that there are so many in Indiana, but why Goshen? Anyways, I think the thread was a good idea because many people do not realize how close prejucdist can hit to home. I myself am anything but prejudice, and by knowing of these "hate Rallies" you ,might be able to do something to stop them, but I agree with the dates thing. Why would you put dates on there if you didnt want someone to go to it?!?!

:mad: :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

Honeykiss1974 07-19-2002 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMUduke
I dont understand. what is a hate rally?

A hate rally is:
Its were people come together for a common purpose(usually one of hostility and aversion that derive from fear, anger, or sense of injury) to publicly spread their message.

(This definiton is a combination of the words hate and rally)


TEN WAYS TO FIGHT

From http://www.splcenter.org/cgi-bin/gof...tfh-index.html

[1] Act Do something.
In the face of hatred, apathy will be interpreted as acceptance — by the haters, the public and, worse, the victim. Decency must be exercised, too. If it isn’t, hate invariably persists.

[2]Unite
Call a friend or co-worker. Organize a group of allies from churches, schools, clubs and other civic sources. Create a diverse coalition. Include children, police and the media. Gather ideas from everyone, and get everyone involved.

[3] Support The Victims
Hate-crime victims are especially vulnerable, fearful and alone. Let them know you care. Surround them with people they feel comfortable with. If you’re a victim, report every incident and ask for help.

[4] Do Your Homework
Determine if a hate group is involved, and research its symbols and agenda. Seek advice from anti-hate organizations. Accurate information can then be spread to the community.

[5] Create An Alternative
Do NOT attend a hate rally. Find another outlet for anger and frustration and people’s desire to do something. Hold a unity rally or parade. Find a news hook, like a “hate-free zone.”

[6]Speak Up
You, too, have First Amendment rights. Hate must be exposed and denounced. Buy an ad. Help news organizations achieve balance and depth. Do not debate hate mongers in conflict-driven talk shows.

[7]Lobby Leaders
Persuade politicians, business and community leaders to take a stand against hate. Early action creates a positive reputation for the community, while unanswered hate will eventually be bad for business.

[8]Look Long Range
Create a “bias response” team. Hold annual events, such as a parade or culture fair, to celebrate your community’s diversity and harmony. Build something the community needs. Create a Web site.

[9]Teach Tolerance
Bias is learned early, usually at home. But children from different cultures can be influenced by school programs and curricula. Sponsor an “I have a dream” contest. Target youths who may be tempted by skinheads or other hate groups.

[10] Dig Deeper
Look into issues that divide us: economic inequality, immigration, homosexuality. Work against discrimination in housing, employment, education. Look inside yourself for prejudices and stereotypes.

Honeykiss1974 07-19-2002 12:11 PM

FYI for somefolks....

I AM A 27 YEAR OLD AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE......

Once again, these rallies will not cease to happen by not posting the dates. If you already have these "tendancies" and choose to go that's on them.

Additionally, i decided to post the dates as an FYI for those of us that will be traveling. The last thing I would want to do is to make plan to go to Denver at the same time the Aryan Nation is holding their convention. :eek:

Jeff OTMG 07-23-2002 05:15 AM

I have not heard of some of these groups, but I know enough to stay away from the skinhead and Aryan Nation groups. Both are racist and violent. If any of you ever have a chance to attend a KKK rally I urge you to go and listen to them, Honeykiss this is probably not an option for you. You cannot imagine the sheer stupidity of these people. They have somehow managed to rewrite American history that we learned in 5th grade to support their views. It is so ludicrous it is funny. On another note. The NAAWP is not a racist organization, though many of the membership is. They have many of the same goals as the NAACP only geared toward white people. Like being proud of European heritage. If it is okay to promote non-violent activities that advance the opportunities of a race, then it must be okay for each and every race, provided that one does not hinder opportunities for other races as part of the advancement process. It is a fine line.

Optimist Prime 07-23-2002 11:53 AM

My advise would be to call the local SHARPs (Skin Heads Against Racial Predjucdice) and they will fight with the nazis. Also, anyone who has 88 tatooed on them is a national socialist and racist hate monger. H is the 8th letter so 88=HH=Heil Hitler. yup.

Hell yeah protest their rallies. Nazis are more organised in the U.S. than any other country. IF they have right to do what they do tthen we have right to moniter them. They protest abortion clinics.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-23-2002 12:59 PM

My concern is that these rallies will turn violent. I'm glad they're not coming here.

I saw a skin head three years ago, and he was the damn scariest person that I have ever seen in my life. I thought that he would hurt us. :(

FHwku 07-23-2002 11:08 PM

true that
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Some are professional conferenceswhere ita attendees could be people that we all work with everyday. And the usually don't drive a pick-up ;)

true that. so don't discriminate against the guy (or girl) in the pick-up. he might someday help you move stuff.
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Honeykiss1974 07-23-2002 11:53 PM

Re: true that
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FHwku


true that. so don't discriminate against the guy (or girl) in the pick-up. he might someday help you move stuff.
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*LOL*
So true...... :D

KSig RC 07-24-2002 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cream
My concern is that these rallies will turn violent. I'm glad they're not coming here.

I saw a skin head three years ago, and he was the damn scariest person that I have ever seen in my life. I thought that he would hurt us. :(

Careful with language here . . .

**quick history lesson**

The term "skinhead" does NOT refer to racists, generally - originally, the skinhead movement started with the working class in England during the late 60's/early 70's . . . the movement was based around the notions of peace and equality for all, combatting the racism of the times. The movement was centered primarily around Reggae and Ska music at the time (think the Specials, the Selector, Prince Buster, etc) - this is known as the '2nd wave' of Jamaican ska/reggae music, or the 'Brixton Beat' and included bands like Madness as well. "Skinhead" was nearly synonymous with "rude boy" and the like, and was a multiculture ideal - there were skinheads that were white, black, and anything in between. The point was protection of the blue-collar workers (which had a huge proportion of Jamaican immigrants), and support for egalitarian political action.

The racist archetype of the skinhead is a recent invention, born out of the shaved heads many white supremecist groups sported. These are NOT 'skinheads' - they are assholes. Subtle distinction.

Anyway - I just wanted you all to be careful who you label a 'skinhead' and etc. Groups like SHARP (skinheads against racial prejudice) fight extremely hard against hate groups, but a certain irony exists when these people are in turn discriminated against due to a skinhead stereotype of white supremecists.

Optimist Prime 07-24-2002 10:14 AM

KSig RC~
You're right, but the term skin head or rudeboy was started in Jamica. The first skinheads were black. America is the only country in the world where more skinheads are racist or non-politcal than activley anti-racist or anti-fascist. The anti-fascist movement in Austria was started by skinheads. They're probably in jail now.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-24-2002 08:06 PM

Actually, I saw this skinhead in England. I was visiting my cousin who lives there. She told me there are a lot of skinheads in her neighborhood. I don't know if this particular white skinhead was a racist, but he looked scary. :eek:

thetakates 07-25-2002 12:42 AM

Just to back up something that someone said....if you ever do get a chance to visit a KKK rally do. You will learn how stupid extremist groups really are in thier beliefs. They are totally condtridicting too. They make it seem that the white people were the ones that were discriminated against. And it is just not a color thing it is a religion and pretty much anyone who is not an "American perfect decent"

Just wanted to back up that I am not a racist....just have had the chance of being with my uncle who is a photographer when he was shooting a Klan rally in his city. Very very interesting for me. Since I am a social studies major it is definitely something I will tell my kids about when i am a teacher.

justamom 07-25-2002 08:40 AM

So many horrible things going on lately- an "overload" of bad news.

Crimes of hate against women, children, religions, entire races... Sometimes I do get the feeling that the people on this earth are wound up so tight, SOMETHING is going to be unleashed that will
be more devastating than anything in our history on earth.

yes, I'm pessimistic...
Somebody PLEASE-Will we EVER know peace and understanding?
Do we have to destroy everything and start from scratch?

:(

Peaches-n-Cream 07-25-2002 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justamom
So many horrible things going on lately- an "overload" of bad news.

Crimes of hate against women, children, religions, entire races... Sometimes I do get the feeling that the people on this earth are wound up so tight, SOMETHING is going to be unleashed that will
be more devastating than anything in our history on earth.


I have to tell you that here in New York, Sept. 11th was that day. It was hate, terror, horror, and devastation. I can only hope and pray that nothing of that magnitude or greater ever happens again.

Tom Earp 07-25-2002 05:23 PM

HoneyKiss, what I an DA are trying to say, if no one shows up for the party, is there one!

These people are sick, sick and I think that Most Sane People realize it.

I would not go to one because I would become so incensde I would do something stupid as these Moronic Asswholes are doing!

I am not impressed by them anymore than I am Impressed with Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton who preach violence in the voice of racial equalisms! Is there not enuff Violence to go around with out Supposedly Sane People not pushing it?

They preach equal rights but try to push it to the edge of inciting fighting! Is This Right?

Please do not go into a diatrab of equal rights for this post! I look forward to meeting you with the KC GC Group Soon!

moe.ron 07-26-2002 07:56 AM

As long as its peaceful, they have the right to be an idiot. ;)

Optimist Prime 07-26-2002 11:07 AM

Arya you're right. And the rest of us have a right to know what they're doing so can protect our freedom.


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