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DeeGeePee 07-14-2002 12:14 PM

Stepping in non-black/Latin GLOs
 
Ok, I was posed this question, and wanted to know what the common view is on GC, so that I can help a friend of mine.

Historically, stepping has been an activity of mainly NPHC and Latin GLOs. Would it be seen as "wrong" or "weird" for a historically white GLO to start a step team and enter competitions? Would, for example, a NPHC sponsored event, where its mainly a competition between the divine 9, allow a white step team to enter? Would anyone feel that it would be innappropriate, given the cultural background of stepping from African rituals?

Just wondering what the concensus is...


SilverTurtle 07-14-2002 02:40 PM

First, I'm not a NPHC member, so my opinion may vary greatly from those that are. :)

I see you're in a MCGLO, and I know that I've heard of multi-cultural orgs. stepping.

I have read a little bit about stepping, and understand that its roots are very African in nature (A while back someone posted a link to an informative web site, but I can't find it just now). I think that why you're getting involved in stepping would have a lot to do with how NPHC orgs respond to you. I could very easily see groups feeling like you're stepping because you like the way it looks, or you want to be more like them, without having any understanding of its history, and then you would most likely be met with a bit of hostility. But if you can show you are interested in it for the right reasons, you might be surprised.

I've never seen a live step show, (yet) but I have seen some tapes & they're impressive. So be ready for some competition if you go for it! :D

legacypbs 07-15-2002 08:46 AM

The issue with this is we as NPHC orgs have very distiguished styles and tradition behind our steps. When new orgs participate in our stepshows problems arise when material they use is ours. I have seen many latino organizations that have their own latin flavor and I respect that. Stepping is more than dancing it's heritage.

legacypbs 07-15-2002 08:47 AM

Here's your link.

http://3n1promo.com/temple/step.html

D.0.7 07-15-2002 12:08 PM

My Point of View
 
Even though i'm not apart of the Divine 9 i'm also a greek student of Color who founded my own fraternity along with 4 other guys. Now that i have introduce myself I feel that it's nothing wrong for a white fraternity or soror learning how to step. As you well know anyone can step, but it's the message that your sending out what really matters. When the African Americans frat, and sorors started stepping they did not step because it made there feet look good, but it was a meaning and a message that they were trying to send out to the world, and to our society. So if the White Greeks at your campus has a message that they want to put out threw stepping then i see no problem with it. So my answer is No i don't see nothing wrong with the white greeks learning apart of our traditional ways of greek life, we have been learning there's for so long so it's kinda good to see a white greek even attempting to learn how to step and from teaching others how to step it's no cake walk if you get my drift. So have fun with it learn from it, and hopefully we can have more of our white greeks being intrested in stepping instead of thinking we are being wild and obsence all the time when they see it done.

GOD Bless you all and remember Greeks Rules:

Mu Omega Pi Fraternity est. 2001 " Upholding The Standard Of Perfection"

OnePlus69Is70 07-15-2002 02:42 PM

At UMass, the NPHC, Latino/a, and Asian groups all step. They don't generally invite the White groups, although mine was specifically invited (we're theoretically white, but we're actually mixed, and have friends in non-White groups). We declined, because we just didn't have time to get ready, but I went to watch for a bit, and it was very cool.

Tom Earp 07-15-2002 04:22 PM

OK, for the dummy in Kansas, what is stepping?:confused:

33girl 07-15-2002 08:54 PM

Tom,

Watch Road Rules on MTV tonight (I think this episode will be on at 8:30 your time). They participate in a step show. :)

sairose 07-15-2002 09:49 PM

On my campus, the Alpha Gams competed in a step show, and won first place. :)

PhisigWarner 07-16-2002 01:03 AM

[COLOR=royal blue]No Disrespect but who are the Alpha Gams?[/COLOR]

DWAlphaGam 07-16-2002 09:10 AM

The Alpha Gams are Alpha Gamma Delta. :)

Tom Earp 07-16-2002 06:25 PM

33girl, thanks for the info but I do not watch it!

Please explain!

I am not a TV Watcher unless I am reading Books at the same time!

Do I need Help! Da YSES!

starang21 07-16-2002 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sairose
On my campus, the Alpha Gams competed in a step show, and won first place. :)
what!?!?!!?!?!

CarolinaDG 07-16-2002 06:52 PM

Stepping is a kind of dance which is a series of rhythms, claps, stomps, whatever... sorry to be so technical, but it's one of those things that you just sort of have to see to understand...

To the AKA who said that it's about heritage, I have a question for you, then...

At my school, there's a homecoming competition just for step, but the only black fraternity that participates is A Phi A... Any thoughts? Since it's a primarily white competition with a primarily black origin, what are your thoughts about how it should be approached? I especially want to know this because I am choreographing ours, and even though I stepped in middle school, I don't remember enough steps, and I don't really want to look like a dumb white girl on the stage.;-)

legacypbs 07-16-2002 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarolinaDG

At my school, there's a homecoming competition just for step, but the only black fraternity that participates is A Phi A... Any thoughts? Since it's a primarily white competition with a primarily black origin, what are your thoughts about how it should be approached? I especially want to know this because I am choreographing ours, and even though I stepped in middle school, I don't remember enough steps, and I don't really want to look like a dumb white girl on the stage.;-)

What school are you at, I've never seen anything like that? The closest thing I have seen is a ebony/ivory stepshow where the teams are 2 orgs paired together.

CarolinaDG 07-16-2002 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legacypbs


What school are you at, I've never seen anything like that? The closest thing I have seen is a ebony/ivory stepshow where teams are 2 orgs paired together.

I go to the University of South Carolina. Maybe I should explain a little better, though...

Our homecoming is one fraternity paired with one sorority (I think that's normal for all campuses) and historically only white fraternities/sororities participate... I'm not sure why... but there's one day that's all dances, with three different types of competition: couples, group, and step. A Phi A always participates in only the step competition, but nothing else, and other than that, it's all white fraternities/sororities. It's not strictly restricted to greek, but it sort of just happens to be that way all of the time.

ShaedyKD 07-17-2002 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by legacypbs


What school are you at, I've never seen anything like that? The closest thing I have seen is a ebony/ivory stepshow where the teams are 2 orgs paired together.

Legacy, can I ask your, (and other members of BGLO's), opinion on this? Has your chapter participated in an event like this? I am very interested in improving NPC and NPHC relations on my campus, because I would like for all of us ladies to get to know one another better. I think the ladies could get the ball started, and got the idea of a joint step show, in which the NPHC women could team up with a white sorority and teach us how to step. We could put on a kind of competition between orgs, us amatuers against each other, and then the pros, and we could put the proceeds from the event towards a philanthropy. I want to approach the NPHC groups on my campus about this, but do not want to overstep any bounds. I personally have read up on some of the history behind this, and it's also very enjoyable to watch. We partnered up with Phi Beta Sigma and SAE for Greek Week this past year, and as part of our "Road Trip" skit, the Sigmas brought down the house, recreating the scene where the Xi Chis stepped. I love watching it, and would love to learn more about it, and how to do it even more.

legacypbs 07-17-2002 01:08 AM

We haven't had a full one at Old Dominion yet. We have had the ZTA's & Zeta Phi Beta. We are working on it this year for a larger version. I am President of NPHC so I'm looking for anything to bring us closer. One avenue that is helping is intramurals. The only problem with that is our low numbers. What are you guys trying.

starang21 07-17-2002 12:04 PM

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frat did something with phi delta theta earlier this year. we both rented out one of the local clubs, and the party was hot. might have been the hottest party within the last few years.

Tom Earp 07-17-2002 05:38 PM

We have a thing similar but is called air band! Is a type of skit thing, have only seen on video as is way after my time!

While I was in school, had good relationships with the BGLOS but I think now is only 1 Fraternity and 1 Soroity there and have always been small chapters.

May be something for the BGLOS to look into!

One of my reps is Omega Psi Phi Grambling, a friend is Kappa from Langston! My newest young rep is from Langston U and going to try to hook him up as an Alum Initiate with one of them!

Thanks for the Info you guys and gals!

I am not sure if this qualifys, but KC has the Marching Cobras who are Kids from the Black Community who put on one hell of a show and are known around the county!

If yu do not mind from an old Fart, They get down!!!!!:D


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