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Black~n~Proud 07-02-2002 11:02 PM

Relaxers!!!
 
Good Morning to all of the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

I am running a personal survey to just get an idea of which relaxers are preferred and which ones are considered the ones to stay away from. As a person who just recently began relaxing my own hair, professionally of course, I would just like to get some advice. Thankyou for taking the time out to respond to my post.

sincerely,
black~n~proud:)

Gina1201 07-02-2002 11:17 PM

I know when my hair is relaxed I use Motions. It works for me.

CrimsonTide4 07-02-2002 11:25 PM

Motions @ Home

Mizani with my old stylist.

Honestly most perms work on me so I am good to go that way.

DSTilmatic_1913 07-03-2002 09:20 AM

I prefer Botanicals or Optimum. If you have sensitive scalp, I would also try Designer Touch - Sensitive Scalp Formula.

Honeykiss1974 07-03-2002 09:45 AM

I use Mizani Mild and love it.

Before I started going to a salon, I used Just For Me :)

cricket 07-03-2002 09:47 AM

Hope you don't mind non-Delta's replying

but when I was relaxed I used Revlon and I would not recommend it at all. It straightens well, but was very strong and I had lots of damage.

I know a couple of people use Affirm and they like it

2DISCRETE4U 07-03-2002 10:08 AM

I went to my sisters stylist when I was down in ATL in May and she used Mizani. That's the best perm I've had in a minute! :D It's been about 7 weeks since my last perm and I just now need another one. Usually after 4 weeks I can hardly comb through my hair! :o I'll definitely be using Mizani from now on!

MeezDiscreet 07-03-2002 12:32 PM

dark & lovely @home

affirm @ the shop

Steeltrap 07-03-2002 12:37 PM

Mizani
 
Here is a vote for Mizani's Rhelaxer (sp?), mild strength. My sister, a cosmetologist for nearly 30 years, uses it on me.
Before I started using it, I used to have terrible issues with breakage and itchy scalp. The beauty school I went to used Revlon, perhaps that's what causes damage.
My sister did what was virtually my virgin head with Mizani, and the breakage has drastically stopped.
I also have my hair professionally colored with Redken Metro Color.

BTW, I don't do any relaxing at home. I get mine for the, err, "Family Discount.";)

12dn94dst 07-03-2002 12:49 PM

I mostly use Motions cuz I have yet to find a stylist that I actually LIKE since the one I had moved (darn her lol). But when I do decide to get my hair relaxed by a professional, I choose ones that use Mizani.

aprilzeta 07-03-2002 09:16 PM

My stylist used Designer's Touch sensitive scalp on my hair. Although last week, she used Affirm(I really liked it a lot). In the past, my stylist used Dudley. I found it to be a little harsh and drying to the scalp.

ykimber 07-04-2002 01:24 PM

Well let see I have very resistant hair
But I have used Motions, Mazani and Affirm they all seem to work well. I use super of course!

SweetestDiva 07-04-2002 04:31 PM

I really like Gentle Treatment and Revlon Fabulaxer. My favorite is Designer's Touch.

candygirl 07-04-2002 06:42 PM

I've used Motions but didn't really like the results. I'm currently using Vitale. It works fine to me. I don't have issues with breakage and my hair is healthy considering I haven't had my hair professionally done in almost two years.

lovele1978 07-05-2002 10:48 AM

I use either PCJ or Just for Me. I have also had Vitale, which worked very well also.

As far as color I use Clairol Nice and Easy or Hydrience. They tend to be not as harsh as the Revlons and the Dark and lovely brands.

CrimsonTide4 01-09-2007 06:10 PM

ttt

Wonderful1908 01-09-2007 07:53 PM

Just aslong as you don't need a Bantu!!:p :p :p Thats for the hardcore locks! :p

BlueReign 01-10-2007 12:32 AM

BANTU: Aint that the truth! When I discovered this perm, this was on special request for me!!

kissy324 01-10-2007 08:59 AM

My mother used to use Bantu. She's the only person I knew, who's hair did not fall out from that stuff.

I usually use Optimum if I decide to shop at a public beauty supply store. If I decide to spend a little extra money, and buy from a licensed-only establishment, I use Mizani.

nikki1920 01-10-2007 10:35 AM

I use TCB Naturals and the one in the green box, Olive Something or other. (Haven't had my caffeine yet, sorry), at home. Professionally, the stylist uses Mizani or Affirm, both a little too strong for my scalp.

1browngirl 01-10-2007 12:06 PM

I don't know what my beautician uses, she usually puts the box where I can't see it. I think it's Affirm, but I've been going to this lady since I was in High School so I trust her. I usually get a relaxer every 6mo to a year. In my mind, if I go back any sooner my hair will be overprocessed (I've had that happen before and most of my hair fell out). But, by waiting so long I can hardly get the comb through my hair, so I'm gonna start going for a touch up at 3 months and see how that works.

I've never tried to relax my own hair, I'm afraid of what might happen, but I might try the next time I need a relaxer.

blackngoldengrl 01-10-2007 12:09 PM

Thank you for starting this thread!

I recently used the Olive Oil (green box) and it was fine but it was the first time I had tried putting my own perm in...I won't do it again. I didn't leave it in long enough anyway and it was just too stressful.
At the salon I get Affirm which I like.

Does anyone have suggestions on deep conditioners? I just bought a protein treatment from Paul Mitchell, but I"m hearing from classmates that I shouldn't use it every week.

Infamous12 01-10-2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl (Post 1381377)
Thank you for starting this thread!

I recently used the Olive Oil (green box) and it was fine but it was the first time I had tried putting my own perm in...I won't do it again. I didn't leave it in long enough anyway and it was just too stressful.
At the salon I get Affirm which I like.

Does anyone have suggestions on deep conditioners? I just bought a protein treatment from Paul Mitchell, but I"m hearing from classmates that I shouldn't use it every week.



I don't have any conditioners to recommend, but I also heard that you shouldn't use ANY one conditioner every week. Supposedly your hair will get 'used to it' and it'll begin to lose its effects....So you should 'switch off' between a few ever so often...

Can any resident hair expert confirm or deny??

*And I definitely could've used this thread when I got the bright idea to relax my own hair 2.1 weeks after getting a PERMANENT hair color put in...:eek:

Yeah, I'm still in hair recovery:o :(

kissy324 01-10-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl (Post 1381377)
Thank you for starting this thread!
...Does anyone have suggestions on deep conditioners? I just bought a protein treatment from Paul Mitchell, but I"m hearing from classmates that I shouldn't use it every week.


It all depends on your hair texture. Protein conditioners are not good for hair textures which African Americans tend to have, because it tends to dry the hair. Instead, moisturizing conditions are best for that type of hair. In the case of hair textures of caucasians, protein conditioners are needed, and they probably could use it weekly. I'm not saying African Americans can't use protein conditions, just not weekly (may once a month, or even bi-weekly).

For my hair, I love Aphoghee and Pantene's deep conditioner.

jubilance1922 01-10-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kissy324 (Post 1381396)
It all depends on your hair texture. Protein conditioners are not good for hair textures which African Americans tend to have, because it tends to dry the hair. Instead, moisturizing conditions are best for that type of hair. In the case of hair textures of caucasians, protein conditioners are needed, and they probably could use it weekly. I'm not saying African Americans can't use protein conditions, just not weekly (may once a month, or even bi-weekly).

For my hair, I love Aphoghee and Pantene's deep conditioner.

You're right, Aphogee is great, but you can't use it every week. I do the protein treatments every couple of months. Every two weeks I do a deep condition, and I alternate between Suave Humectant, Pantene and Elasta QP.

kissy324 01-10-2007 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1381399)
You're right, Aphogee is great, but you can't use it every week. I do the protein treatments every couple of months. Every two weeks I do a deep condition, and I alternate between Suave Humectant, Pantene and Elasta QP.


Aphogee does have conditioners you can use every week. I actually use their instant conditioner every week (with the exception of the weeks I use a deep conditioner), along with their moisturizing treatment. I put both of them on together, and leave in for a few minutes. However, they do have a deep conditioner which definitely should not be used every week. Truthfully, no deep conditioner should be used weekly.

kissy324 01-10-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Infamous12 (Post 1381395)
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I don't have any conditioners to recommend, but I also heard that you shouldn't use ANY one conditioner every week. Supposedly your hair will get 'used to it' and it'll begin to lose its effects....So you should 'switch off' between a few ever so often...

I've heard this many times, but I've never found any truth in it. Products are made to improve the hair over time, so of course, if you're using a good product consistently, your hair should improve. It's usually not that the product is no longer working, it's that your hair has improved over time, and the texture is different (hopefully healthier). Now, everyone's hair is different, so that's not a rule set in stone. It's best to find what routine/products are best for your hair, and not try to follow what someone is doing.

The advice I would give is, if you do find products that you like, stick with that one product, and don't mix different products together (i.e. Pantene shampoo with Motions conditioner). Product lines are designed to work together, and sometimes, when you mix different products, it can actually cause damage to the hair. Once again, this is not always the case. Some people mix products and have no problems at all.

nikki1920 01-10-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl (Post 1381377)
Thank you for starting this thread!

I recently used the Olive Oil (green box) and it was fine but it was the first time I had tried putting my own perm in...I won't do it again. I didn't leave it in long enough anyway and it was just too stressful.
At the salon I get Affirm which I like.

Does anyone have suggestions on deep conditioners? I just bought a protein treatment from Paul Mitchell, but I'm hearing from classmates that I shouldn't use it every week.


I thought it was Olive Oil, but wasn't sure.
I just started doing my own perms for financial reasons. It took me two touch ups to get it right. I start at the top and do the hair line last. I also got one of those brushes to help with application.

blackngoldengrl 01-11-2007 09:17 PM

Yes, that is the same reason that I put in my own perm. But from now until I have a real job, I think I'll just budget so I can go to the salon OR let someone else more experienced put them in.
I think I'll try and put in protein treatments every other month, and see how that goes.

Intense1920 01-11-2007 10:54 PM

I self-relax every 12 weeks with Elasta QP regular lye. Thinking of going back to mild though for less irritation. Deep condition every other week. Light protein on the weeks in between. Oh yeah, protein treatments MUST be followed by a moisturizing conditioner. Asking for trouble otherwise.

Dionysus 01-11-2007 11:22 PM

I never had a relaxer before. Can you "wash and wear" your hair if you use a relaxer? I mean wash and wear, without it getting curly. If so, this is something I might look into, I'm sick of spending 30-45 minutes on my hair after every time I wash it.

thesweetestone 01-12-2007 09:02 PM

I just started using Silk Elements. The conditioner really worked a miracle on my hair.

Dionysus 01-12-2007 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesweetestone (Post 1382654)
I just started using Silk Elements. The conditioner really worked a miracle on my hair.

How long does it stay in your hair? Do you have to apply weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? Every other month?

thesweetestone 01-12-2007 10:03 PM

I have to relax my hair every month because I have very thick hair, and I exercise quite abit.

Small1der 01-17-2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black~n~Proud (Post 215569)
Good Morning to all of the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

I am running a personal survey to just get an idea of which relaxers are preferred and which ones are considered the ones to stay away from. As a person who just recently began relaxing my own hair, professionally of course, I would just like to get some advice. Thankyou for taking the time out to respond to my post.

sincerely,
black~n~proud:)

My cosmotologist uses Affirm Sensitive on me. We used to use something else (I forgot the name), but it kinda burned too quick. I like whatever is light, since my hair is not very coarse.

Small1der 01-17-2007 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1382277)
I never had a relaxer before. Can you "wash and wear" your hair if you use a relaxer? I mean wash and wear, without it getting curly. If so, this is something I might look into, I'm sick of spending 30-45 minutes on my hair after every time I wash it.

Not a good idea on black hair since out hair gets very dry. When we wash, we have to take the time to condition for about 10-15 minutes, and then set the hair (and hopefully you all are NOT blow drying!). I mean, wash and wear is for real fine hair.


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