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DeltaSigStan 06-20-2002 01:17 PM

Expelled/Went Dormant and haven't returned
 
Beta Theta Pi and TKE were kicked out in Fall 2000 (though TKE still operates), and Kappa Sigma was kicked out this spring.

Lambda Chi and Beta are recolonizing. So I asked myself another question:

Who's gotten kicked out or went dormant and haven't returned in a while?

At SDSU:

Pi Kappa Alpha (1986)
Delta Chi
Alpha Tau Omega
Phi Kappa Tau
Phi Sigma Kappa
FIJI
Phi Delta Theta

Delta Zeta
Alpha Xi Delta
Alpha Gamma Delta

FuzzieAlum 06-20-2002 01:24 PM

Have they all been kicked out, or did some voluntarily close? It's pretty unusual for a sorority to get kicked off campus.

And according to our national website, the South Dakota State U chapter of AXD is still alive and kicking.

DeltaSigStan 06-20-2002 01:26 PM

Fuzzie, I go to SAN DIEGO state Univerity lol. People always get both schools mixed up since we both go by SDSU.

And I think that most of them did, but I'm not sure. The fraternities I know were expelled.

AZ-AlphaXi 06-20-2002 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Fuzzie, I go to SAN DIEGO state Univerity lol. People always get both schools mixed up since we both go by SDSU.

And I think that most of them did, but I'm not sure. The fraternities I know were expelled.

The Alpha Xi Delta chapter at SDSU (Gamma Alpha Chapter) was not kicked off. They closed voluntarily due to low membership.

DeltaSigStan 06-20-2002 01:43 PM

Thank you very much for the information. Apologies for the misinfo.

lifesaver 06-20-2002 01:59 PM

My school:

Sororities:

AST in 1981 (folded)

Fraternities:
Sigma Nu - Numbers (1998)
Theta Chi - Colony that never got their Charter (1995)
Sigma Tau Gamma - Hazing (1996)

ilovemyglo 06-20-2002 02:05 PM

At WKU-

Fraternities:
Kappa Sigma- kicked off in 1997 for hazing but recolonized this year
SAE- 2001 kicked off for hazing, they get to return in a year I think
Kappa Alpha Psi- 2000 for hazing, and they cannot return for a few more years.

Sororities:
Alpha Xi Delta- either 1989 or 90 for low numbers.

They are the only sorority every to dissolve from WKU, but Sigma Kappa may in the next year. They have directives from the internationals, and they are losing their chapter house. Hopefully after fall formal recruitment they won't have any more worries.

ilovemyglo 06-20-2002 02:06 PM

At WKU-

Fraternities:
Kappa Sigma- kicked off in 1997 for hazing but recolonized this year
SAE- 2001 kicked off for hazing, they get to return in a year I think
Kappa Alpha Psi- 2000 for hazing, and they cannot return for a few more years.

Sororities:
Alpha Xi Delta- either 1989 or 90 for low numbers.
Phi Mu- dissolved in the 1980's and returned in the 1990's

They are the only sororities every to dissolve from WKU, but Sigma Kappa may in the next year. They have directives from the internationals, and they are losing their chapter house. Hopefully after fall formal recruitment they won't have any more worries.

shadokat 06-20-2002 02:07 PM

At my school, it used to be that fraternities were on again, then kicked off, then back on. Due to the many deaths that were alcohol related, the campus passed a zero tolerance policy stating that if a fraternity or sorority got busted by the police having a party and serving alcohol to minors, that the fraternity or sorority would be expelled from campus and not allowed back on the campus ever. It's happened to 2 fraternities and 1 sorority that I know of. Others have been expelled for one reason or another and choose to stay unrecognized and not have to deal with rules. Others try very hard to gain recognition. It's all ridiculous.

The1calledTKE 06-20-2002 02:14 PM

Yes TKE is still there and reconized by TKE IHQ as a active chapter. The school and TKE IHQ disagreed with the charges. The chapter still has full suport form TKE IHQ as far as I know.

Unregistered- 06-20-2002 02:58 PM

DeltaSigStan,

Do you know for sure that AGD was 'kicked out' of SDSU? I only ask this because so many things can play a factor in a chapter's closing.

I just think it's unfair to label a chapter's closing as being 'kicked out' when they really weren't.

greeklawgirl 06-20-2002 03:03 PM

I can be pretty sure in stating that Alpha Gam at SDSU was not kicked out, rather, the chapter was resolved due to lower numbers. Its irresponsible to be so cavalier in the using the term "kicked out." A better option would be "resolved" or "dormant."

Kevin 06-20-2002 03:08 PM

Our TKE chapter was booted for some pretty bad stuff (that they admit to freely).. Honestly it's the same thing that MOST other houses on campus do as a daily routine... well except one part... but we won't get into that.

TKE IHQ disagreed with our university's allegations and their house still operates apart from the rest of the greek system.

wishinhopin 06-20-2002 03:08 PM

I know that in 2000 or 2001 the Betas were kicked out of SDSU for hazing...I might have missed that but I don't think it's posted here yet.

33girl 06-20-2002 03:32 PM

Call me a thread Nazi...
 
but I don't know that this topic is a very good idea. Groups leave campuses for all kinds of reasons, from the most innocent to some pretty hideous tales. They can't all be lumped together under "kicked off." Not only that, people outside of the chapter or school alumni don't always have the correct information.

I don't think Stan meant anything bad, but considering half the posts in this thread are to correct misinformation, I don't see it getting any better.

Tom Earp 06-20-2002 05:27 PM

33girl, I wont say I toatally dis
agree with you but,

This is what happens when Chapters do not follow the regulations of Schools who are afraid of getting law suits because a Greek Organization, fo lack of a better word, Screws up.

Case in point, Alfred U, of NY. They met after the Students had left for the Summer and voted to Kick All Of The Greeks OFF Campus.

We as LXA on this site are doing a grass root thing to have The LXA Chapter Plead their case at Gen. Assemb. in August to keep the Charter and function as a Chapter.

Schools are getting gun shy because of some of the things that Greek Orgs. do on campus as it reflects not only on the Greeks but the schools as well.

It is good to hear or not so good to hear of some of the things that go on!

People bad mouth DeltaAlum and Hoosier, but they are just reporting the facts! It is not their fault that they report so much, it is not their doing but the Greeks themselfs!

theta sig agd 06-20-2002 07:44 PM

I have to agree here with Tom. I also feel that I have the right to know what chapters of my org are closing and why. Also I feel it a good , however unglamorous, to know of other groups leaving chapters and why.

First, it informs the Greek community of the atmosphere surrounding greeks in different areas or in your area to help you prepare for things.

Also, it shows us that there is punishment for "screw ups" and that something is being done about it.

It may not be all happy-happy joy-joy but it is the truth and good to know.

At Valdosta State University:

Alpha Xi Delta became dormant due to low membership

SAE - has been closed several times due to hazing and I think they are off for good this time. I mean for a more extended period of time at least.

AlphaGam1019 06-20-2002 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theta sig agd
At Valdosta State University:

Alpha Xi Delta became dormant due to low membership

SAE - has been closed several times due to hazing and I think they are off for good this time. I mean for a more extended period of time at least.

No, SAE is back on campus as of Fall 2001.

Alpha Xi Delta left back in the 1980's, Theta Chi left in the 90's.

DeltaSigStan 06-20-2002 09:05 PM

I changed my first post on this thread to say chapters that BOTh went dormant or got expelled. I apologize for anyone I offended. I just wanted to know on other campuses which houses have left campus for whatever reason. I shouldn't have just put expelled because obviously there's other reasons.

Quote:

Yes TKE is still there and reconized by TKE IHQ as a active chapter. The school and TKE IHQ disagreed with the charges. The chapter still has full suport form TKE IHQ as far as I know.
Yup, and they're really big too. They throw some awesome parties and the Greek Community here still likes them.

Quote:

Do you know for sure that AGD was 'kicked out' of SDSU? I only ask this because so many things can play a factor in a chapter's closing.
Yeah, I'm not really sure if they were kicked out or went dormant. I saw some pictures from my chapter in the early to late 80s, and Delta Sig did A LOT of things with AGD at the time, so ignorantly I figured they were really big and couldn't have went dormant for low members.

33girl 06-20-2002 09:18 PM

I do agree that we need to know who is leaving and why...it tends to be hushed up, until you look on your national website and bingo, where have those 3 chapters gone? But that information should come from the national HQ, not a message board. I think we're so hungry for information that sometimes we accept wrong information.

My main point was that for every "this chapter is closed" on this thread, there seemed to be a "no they're not"....

nauadpi 06-20-2002 10:27 PM

Well, even with some comments that we should not be discussing this, I think we should. On my campus, Northern Arizona University, I know of two times where chapters were closed.

First are the Sigma Phi Epsilon's. They were closed in the past for hazing, but spring of 2001 they were allowed to recolinize. I was at the IFC meeting and saw what they went through to get recolinized. A large point made was that the members from before the chapter was closed have since graduated/left. So the chapter really started from scratch.

Then spring of 2001 the SAE's chapter was closed. The official response from their nationals was due to being in debt to nationals. There have been many other rumors as to why they are not a chapter anymore, but I will leave those out of this post due to the fact that they are just rumor.

AlphaSigLana 06-20-2002 10:37 PM

I think this is an interesting post. So many things are happening in the greek community i.e. greeks are being kicked off of campuses and not because they did anything wrong,but because many schools no longer find use in the greek system. I can't think of the schools, but they havebeen posted on here where they abolished their entire greek system.
I think we can discuss chapters w/o being rude about why they were kicked off. I find it interesting to know why and disheartening bc many get kicked off for the same violations such as drinking etc why don't we learn?
So where will the greek system be in 20 yrs?
at the end of the school yr I had a guy tell me that he didn't think that fraternities/sororities were needed anymore bc the times have changed and people are ruder etc especially greeks and all we do is drink.

Tom Earp 06-20-2002 10:48 PM

ASLana, sent you a PM, gong to answer!?

They know not of what they speak! If you totaled up the $$$$ that the Greek Orgs do for Charity, let alone, each schools Greeks, it totals BILLIONS! That is just a year! Add to that the hours spent on campus activities, Da!

People who do not know, throw stones. They are afraid of the unknown!!

Go figure!

I have talked to many of our new members and they tell me the same thing untill they found out what we as Greeks Really do!:D

queequek 06-20-2002 10:59 PM

At Iowa State: (for various reasons)

Phi Omega Pi, 1934
Phi Sigma Kappa, 1939
Alpha Chi Rho, 1972
Chi Phi, 1974
Sigma Tau Gamma, 1994
Zeta Tau Alpha, 1998
Alpha Phi, 1998
Sigma Nu, 1998
Phi Kappa Psi, 1999
Phi Kappa Tau, 1999
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., 1999
Sigma Lambda Beta, 2000
Delta Chi, 2001

The1calledTKE 06-21-2002 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake

TKE IHQ disagreed with our university's allegations and their house still operates apart from the rest of the greek system.

Thats the good thing about TKE IHQ. They will support you til the end. If they close a chapter it must really need to be closed.

SoCalGirl 06-21-2002 06:39 PM

DeltaSigStan,

Any idea how many times Beta has recolonized at State? I swear I think this is at least the second recolonization for them in the last four years. Or maybe I'm just getting confused with all the closing and reopenings at State. Cause I would have sworn up and down that your own chapter closed in Spring 1999. Did ya'll recolonize recently or am I losing it?:confused:

DeltaSigStan 06-22-2002 02:40 AM

In The Past Few Years:

Delta Sigma Phi was expelled in Fall 98, but RECHARTERED in 1999. We've3 had to change a lot of our organization, but we feel we're really strong going into fall 2002.

TKE and Beta were kicked out in Fall 2000. Beta's chapter closed, but TKE's Nationals felt that what happened was not TKE's fault, so they still continue to operate.

Spring 2002: Kappa Sigma expelled.

Wanna know something pretty sad? There's been allegations that Beta Omega Phi (Some Asian Frat) broke one of their pledge's legs during a pledge event. No investigation, no action taken. USFC gets away with A LOT more than the regular Greeks because they don't have a National to report to.

UMgirl 06-24-2002 04:23 PM

Recent ones.....

Delta Sigma Phi- 2002 (but waiting for their appeal)
Delta Chi- 2001- low numbers
FIJI- 1999 (*Sniffle* :( ) - Housing violation/broke a probation rule

AXiD- 1999- Low numbers
DZ- 1997- Low numbers


Past ones.....

AOPi
Phi Sigma Sigma
ZTA
Theta Phi Alpha (founded at UM and have no clue why they left)

Theta Delta Chi - no clue

shultzz 06-24-2002 04:36 PM

stupid ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
In The Past Few Years:



TKE and Beta were kicked out in Fall 2000. Beta's chapter closed, but TKE's Nationals felt that what happened was not TKE's fault, so they still continue to operate.



Wanna know something pretty sad? There's been allegations that Beta Omega Phi (Some Asian Frat) broke one of their pledge's legs during a pledge event. No investigation, no action taken. USFC gets away with A LOT more than the regular Greeks because they don't have a National to report to.

What is USFC?

lenoxxx 06-24-2002 05:32 PM

Hey is LCA really coming back to SDSU?

That would be a shock!

Lenoxxx

DeltaSigStan 06-25-2002 12:31 AM

Re: stupid ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by shultzz


What is USFC?

USFC at SDSU is United Sorority Fraternity Council. It's the council that regulates all the Asian, Latin and Multicultural Greeks.

And yes, Lambda Chi Alpha is interested in recolonizing at San Diego State. Their Alumni own the house that they were in when they were expelled. It's the one that Phi Psi was in for the longest time, and the one that Sigma Pi will be moving into in the fall. I still don't know what LXA was expelled for in the first place.

dzrose93 06-25-2002 12:47 AM

SigK_Bama,

I know that you probably didn't mean this rudely, but I really would appreciate it if you would edit your post concerning the Delta Zeta comment. It doesn't seem as if you know for certain if that's what really happened and this type of story can be detrimental to a GLO's reputation. Rumors always seem to get out of hand with comments that start with "the story goes...". Anyway, just wanted to mention that. (I would have PM'd this to you, but the feature wasn't offered on your post. Sorry!) :)

To everyone: If you aren't sure why a group left your campus, please don't post your own opinion as to why you think it left, or post unconfirmed rumors that have come down the campus grapevine. It will prevent hurt feelings and, also, help to keep stories straight. Thanks!

lenoxxx 06-25-2002 04:50 PM

LCA
 
The "rumour" that I had head from a bunch of our alumni in the LCA world was that the chapter at SDSU was huge into drugs.

Now I dont know personally if that is true, but what the hell, they arent there now anyway! And that is back from like 1993 or so.

Odd, Sigma Pi is moving into the LCA owned house at Colorado State as well....

Keep us posted on the LCA part of Greek Chat about our Zeta Pi chapter DSS!

Lenoxxx

OnePlus69Is70 06-25-2002 05:25 PM

UMass Amherst:
TKE closed in the 80's? from low membership
PKA was closed by the school 3 years ago in the midst of a scandal involving a rape in their house. (The rapist wasn't a brother, but it happened in the middle of a party.)
Delta Chi was closed by their national after the town caught them essentially running an illegal bar in their basement.
Phi Mu Delta was just closed by their national- low membership, financial problems, and just stupid behavior- I know there was a fair degree of cocaine usage in the house.
Theta Chi just recolonized, their third try. The last one was in 1994?, and the colony was closed within six months for hazing. Good luck to the new set, I say, but I'm afraid of bad karma overtaking them.
SAE closed in the 50's, recolonized, and closed again in the early 80's, both times from low membership.
I'm giving ten to one odds that Delta Sig will close next year- too bad, too, they're nice guys, but they haven't been recruiting well, and they've gotten so low they can't afford a house next year. The chapter is only five or six years old, too.
Alpha Sig closed in the 50's, from low membership. Same with Kappa Alpha Theta- their house is the new career center, way too bad, it's an awesome building.
Sigma Sigma Sigma closed a few years ago from low membership, but there's a rumor that they're going to colonize next year or the year after. Good thing too, we don't have enough sororities- 15 men's groups and 8 women's groups is way too one sided.

Honestly, I think a good thrashing out of who's closed where and why is a good thing- because it scares the living crap out of undergrads. It's always one of two things- low membership (usually resulting from apathy), or a really horrific event.

I will balance my horror stories with the good side- our SigEp chapter has been here forever, in the same house, and is incredibly strong. (And I HATE them for it- Woody Allen put it so well- "Every time a friend succeeds, I die a little.") Phi Sigma Kappa's Alpha chapter is still on campus, in the house they've been in as long as anyone can remember. Alpha Tau Gamma, a local, has been there more than a hundred years continuously, and our local sorority, Iota Gamma Upsilon, just celebrated 40. AEPi and Sammy are strong, we have a new colony of Sigma Tau Gamma. Oh, and naturally, Omega Delta kicks much a**- goota cheer for the home team.

And you know what all the good, surviving chapters have? Good alumni, well-kept facilities, and undergrads who know exactly how thin the line between open and closed is for a GLO these days. There, that's my rant.

TKEmz894 06-25-2002 05:36 PM

In response to the colony boy from Sigma Nu.....You need to get your facts straight! The TKEs at UCO where kicked off for grades, Not "pretty bad stuff" That was 3 years ago they turned themselves around the next year and had the highest grades of any Fraternity on your campus. They also have been invited to come back into IFC numerous times but they refuse because they would rather govern themselves.....The reason I know this is because I stop by there on my way to and from College. So keep TKE off youre little postings!

lenoxxx 06-25-2002 08:02 PM

Wow- do I sense a rumble in the south?

Lenoxxx

lenoxxx 06-25-2002 08:14 PM

Our greeks
 
Sig Tau-Booted in 91, back in 93, booted in 95, back in 1997, booted in 1999- now still exists "underground"

Kappa Sigma- shut down in 1999- used to be coolest fraternity at college- non existant now.

Theta Chi- Booted in 1990- exists with a few guys, went nuts over other de pledge kids from another frat that started an illegal theta chi colony with the help of another legitimate Theta Chi chapter- imagine that, like two clones fighting. Theta Chi's HQ didnt seem too happy with that

Acacia- supposedly thrown off campus this spring 2002, has the largest house at the college, still there, status unknown

Phi Sigma Kappa- thrown out in 2000, recolonized as Phi Sigma Phi in 2001 with same guys from 2000

TKE- thrown off campus in 1991- never went away at all, probably will get back on campus this fall, which is funny because it kind of renders any permanent ruling against you from the college null and void if you can make the college cry "uncle!" after 11 years.

Chi Gamma Iota- Local thrown off campus, member involved with execution style murder of another student ( as seen on CNN), chapter lost their house and of course is still there in a much more limited fashion- to the dismay of the Deans.

There is the roll call of the Shippensburg "used to be on campus" greeks. Im sure some will be returning in the near future. Stay Tuned Kiddies!

Lenoxxx

MoxieGrrl 06-25-2002 10:29 PM

SAE left Bethany College in the early 80's...

Delta Tau Delta left for I believe around 70 years...then they came back and they're really strong now.....do any Delts out there know why they are called "Theta Founding chapter" instead of "Alpha"? Someone told me before but I don't recall....does it have anything to do with them leaving campus?

And Kappa Delta (God rest it's soul :( ) left in 2002 due to low numbers

SoExited@FSU 06-25-2002 11:39 PM

@ FSU..
 
IIKA was kicked off for 12 years, after '88- Now they're Fraternity of the year and biggest on campus. SAE is gone, as is Sigma Sigma Sigma sorority. Sigma Pi is gone, too- and I think something is up with TKE,like maybe they're not a full-fledged CH, or just became one again? We also used to have Theta Chi, way back when...

OnePlus69Is70 06-26-2002 09:14 AM

Hey FSU, where are you from? I can think of like four different FSU's.


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