The Reason to join a sorority, according to MTV
 

premieres Monday@ 9:30 Central time.

:rolleyes:

mtv and sororities...
 

After seeing the commercial for it, I feel for each of my friends in the WGLOs if this show is as bad as I think it is..

I'm totally not interested in seeing that GARBAGE! And why are they dealing with WGLOs? We have a totally different views than them.

We got a National Directive to not respond to MTV if they approached us. I believe all four orgs did, but I could be wrong. I don't trust MTV to do a fair representation of Sorority life anyway. The last show they did that I LIKED was Flipped and that hasn't been on in a long time.

I'm taking this show for what it is.....ENTERTAINMENT. To me, its no different that than watching the MTV Spring Break(Folks in their letters doing all kinds of crazey mess on camera). I do plan to watch it though. :)

For those who plan on watching, it comes on tonight.

Now I know someone watched the show. LOL

I saw like 10 minutes of it. It's interesting to see how THEY do it. LOL. I saw the part where the girls were getting ready to go to the rush, the rush, the meeting, the "vote". I was :eek: at the way the members go to the apartments/homes/dwellings of those they chose to give them their invite.

I plan to watch the rest of the series. At my HBCU, the sorority members did something like this too in regards to delivering invites.

I watched it and liked that show. It was interesting to see how the "other half" does things.

I watched the show and I thought it was good to see how other organizations did their membership process. I think the fact that is was a Jewish sorority made it very interesting to me. To see them struggle with the decision to offer bids to non Jews and people who didn't even know about the Jewish religion added an extra element that I could relate to. I am not a member of a BGLO or any greek organization but I would have trouble welcoming people into any organization that I am apart of who know nothing about its basis. One of the girls didn't even know that Jewish people don't beleive Jesus is the messiah. :rolleyes: I also find it odd that MTV would pick a Jewish sorority. I would think they would stick to a more mainstream White sorority to mirror the majority of their viewing population. But I like that they chose that sorority becuase it adds a little diversity to their programming.

I don't think they "picked" a group as much as they had to find a group that would allow them to tape them - from what I understand this particular chapter is a local and not a national sorority so they didn't have anyone telling them not to do it! NPC and NPHC sororities were directed not to do it from headquarters. I didn't watch it, but I plan on seeing some of the shows.

These pledges need an old-school SESSION
 

WTF?

I was LMP&GAO last night during this show.

Sorors, I don't care if you pledged old school or MIP....y'all know we would have NEVER gotten away this any of this kind of mess.

Those little girls were in that house for about 15 minutes before they broke out with the booze and started inviting boys over. In the meantime, the "big sisters" were at the house preparing "the rules". Then, the pledges started tripping about the rules saying they are "grown women"...blah...blah...

So, the big sisters rolled through the house at 1pm...the pledges were out getting their party ON. The "pledgemaster" leaves a sweet note..."we came by, you weren't here...have a nice weekend"....WTF?

I did see one similarity with BGLO's...the whole debate about accepting girls who aren't Jewish. I understood the members who felt very strongly about not accepting non-jewish girls. Why would they want to be in a Jewish sorority, with Jewish ideals and rituals if they don't share that faith? One of the pledges even admitted that she didn't even know that Jews believe that Jesus is not the Messiah...and was laughing her tail off about not knowing.

Then, one of the members started on a debate about not wanting to be "exclusive". How ridiculous. Of course you want to be "exclusive". Do you just want to accept "anybody"? I liked the one member who said "I don't care if they leave....F them".

Oh....if they only knew.....;)

LMAO
 

This show had me CTFU. My Line Sister had to call me and verify that I was indeed watching it, because it was just too much to miss.

First, I WISH we could try and have not a sorority house, but A PLEDGE HOUSE hahahahahah! That just would not float. I could see it now, Oh LAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWD! And I wish that "little sisters" would have the nerve to complain about rules and then get their DRANK on up in it. This was just too much to me!

I could feel them on the Jewish issue, and i had the same reply to "lets not be exclusive" deal. I was like, "Is she twisted?!"
:rolleyes:

Anywyay, on the whole I don't think MTV did anything exploitive or wrong, I just think these girls (especially the pledges ) were off the chain!

Exactly...
 

Exactly, this is not the "other half" this is the "local half". At least NPC sororities have rules and show some discretion. If you look in the "Greek Life" section, the discussion on this show has been going on for some time now. Talk of how many NPC Sororities were contacted and couldn't respond nor did they want to. There is a link somewhere to the Sororities website (the one on MTV) and their reasons for why they wanted to take part in this show. They also explain how they don't want to alienate the national sororities or be thought less of for taking part in this show. They are looking for exposure. The same things go on with the locals at my school. They will wear their letters to the bar and anywhere else you can think of that will give them exposure. They wanted to put all of our letters on shot glasses to give out to new students in the fall, it was the NPHC and IFC organizations who disagreed, all of the locals thought it was "cute". The IFC and NPHC organizations don't behave in this manner. I have too many other local greek horor stories. The biggest problem for the NPC sororities is that they are worried people will confuse this jewish sorority for an NPC or what we call "WGLO". People have already begun grouping the 2 together so I can't blame them for being worried. I doubt MTV will take the time to explain the difference between "Nationals" and "Locals". NPC sororities aren't even allowed to drink alcohol at Rush parties.

Re: Exactly...
 

Very True,

You know I could not pass up the chance to watch this and the only reason those girls were not punished for not being in the house was because they were on TV. Whatever you believe the fact of the matter is A LOT Of people are going to take this as thier reality of what sorority Life is like. Yes, even some people of African decent will think this is the way it is. Please let us never forget when one messes up we all get hurt in some way!

Sphinxpoet

A sisterfriend's perspective.............
 

I watched the entire thing and I was tripping a little. I was really feeling like "Gimmie a break ." when they were going on about how they felt some of the people were present just for the exposure. My thought was "Aren't you guys looking to recieve the same thing?" I also thought it was amazing that they get a "pledge house" It was off the chain, complete with gift bags. The pledges threw me when they said that the rules suck and they went on and on about how they were grown women...Didn't they except thier bids? Didn't they agree to become pledges?I'm curious to see how it all unfolds. All in all I believe MTV did what they planned to do......Get us all to watch.

Re: A sisterfriend's perspective.............
 

I watched the show and my first impression was I can't believe that this sorority had no formal rules for selecting potential members. I didn't see anyone complete an application or no interviews. It seemed like the potentials went to the pledge house, signed in at the table and from 2 meetings the sorority members did a blind ballot for selecting members.

After reading the sorority thread in the general forum, I learned that this Jewish sorority is a local and they don't have the formal rules that the NPC has. Also, MTV either brought or rented out the "pledge house". It's not the norm for select pledges to move in a "pledge house". I was thinking initially, why did the pledge house look like a typical RW house except not as extravangent.

IMHO, it seemed most of the girls were not Jewish. If this is a Jewish sorority, why would they select many potential members who are not jewish and do not know anything about the Jewish faith? I would think their main emphasis of the sorority is Judism and sisterhood.


Was one of the selected girls Black? I missed it when she stated her ethnicity.

#7 Snuggles
DST - RVA 12/93

Re: Re: A sisterfriend's perspective.............
 

She said she was Mexican-American. I'm sure they do have things like applications and so forth, but MTV just didn't show it. After all who wants to watch someone fill out a packet? ;)

Local or not, I still think it is an interesting show in regards to how other people do things in regards to sorority life. I've read some other things about how this show will be a negative influence on greek life, but as usual, some people must look at their own behavior on their campus first. I can recall watching MTV Spring Break and seeing folks posing for the cameras with their letter plastered across their chest with a beer in their hand. :rolleyes: Or on campus seeing members with their 'nalia own participating in "unmanly" or "unlady" like behavior.

I guess I'm looking at like this. I am an African American woman. There are DAILY demeaning and degrading images of African-American females shown through-out the media everyday( some being perpetrated by a channel that was SUPOSED to be about uplifting our people) that unfortunately some people come to believe to be true. To expect every media outlet to stop showing these images is unreasonable, so instead, I try to be a positive example in my everyday life.

This show is really a trip to me.

Miss Jordan needs to soak her little tail in some ice water...'cause she was droppin' it like it was HOT on the dance floor in front of the "big sisters" at a pledge event. I completely understand some of the sisters who have issues with her and some of the other girls. They don't want to follow any rules. Like I said before, they need a "session".

Now, they finally took these girls out to do a fairly good pledging exercise...they went out in the middle of God knows where and had to work together to move huge rocks into the shape of the orgs greek letters. The big sisters said that this was a "tradition" in their pledging activities. The pledges didn't "get it". The "big sisters" should have made them walk home!

Hey! I watched it last night too and I couldn't understand why some of the pledges were complaining about moving the rocks.

And Jordan.....let's just say that I think she will be given the boot from the pledge period.

Sorry to jump in on your thread, but to answer a question - you all are right, the NPC sororities do not do things the way this group on the show does. Our selection process and rush are different. And we don't have pledge houses, and we don't even call them pledges. But, no, we do not do individual interviews or applications.

Another sisterfriend's perspective
 

I think that some of the pledges need a reality check. Miss Jordan - I don't know what her problem is. Saying that the house is hers???? Get real! It's not your house!!!!!! She is just a mere visitor there! The pledges not understanding or faking to understand the significance of rearraning the rocks into the letters of the sorority - how pitiful these women are. There is obviously no unity within the pledge group - sitting up there wondering who the sixth person moving is was gonna be and not even really embracing the girl when she finally moved in. WTF???? I don't see Jordan being a part of this process much longer either.

Ok, this show has actually sparked a question from me....

The whole NPC vs. local issue aside, you guys do not do individual interviews or applications? :confused: Now that, I did not know!:o

There is a blanket application that women fill out at the beginning of formal rush, that has class standing, major, things like that. It also has a space to designate if you're a legacy to any group. This goes to all the NPC sororities.

We do not do one-on-one interviews as such before someone is given a bid. It sounds like a good idea though, but probably not feasible at schools w/ hundreds of rushees.

I was really surprised that they didn't have the "House Rules" all set before they moved in and even discussed during the informal events. It still isn't clear to me if the 5/6 girls in the pledge house were picked or chose to be there - I can't understand why such a small group is segregated from a 20/30 member pledge class?? I also found it interesting when they said they have never denied anyone a bid in the past, they just accepted everyone who attended their 3/4 rush events!! The rock thing surprisedme too, but I'll reserve my comments on it - I know that they are not an NPC sorority at the national level, but their website indicates that they have associate-status at UCDavis in the NPC, not sure what that means, they may not have to abide by NPC rules, but they don't seem to have any rules about anything and no advisors either unless they are just off camera. Then again, I think some of the charter members are still on campus so they may not have an alumni pool to draw from. Does anyone watch BugJuice on Zoog (a summer camp realityi show) ?? That's what it reminds me of.

I will say I thought the personal bid delivery with a flower was a nice touch.

Re: Re: A sisterfriend's perspective.............
 

This sounds right to me. I was wondering why they had a pledge house that only accomodates 6 people. How is that supposed to promote unity when they seperate 6 people from the rest of the pledges. I also figured that MTV picked the 6 people to stay in the house. It's might funny that 2 of the girls picked to stay in the house were girls that they thought were there for the wrong reason. I think that MTV picked them because of that reason and also they knew that their personalities would make an interesting show.

In one of the threads in Greek Life about this show, someone (I think the person attends UC Davis) posted that MTV didn't pick and chose the girls to live in the house. In fact, they couldn't get a total of six girls to do it at first (camera shy, I guess). That's why Jessica came in after move in day.

I don't have a problem with the rock thing at all. My problem comes in with the pledges. Some of them have the worst attitudes ever. They don't want to work for SAEpi at all. They are content to just party, drink, bitch and moan about the rules and then expect to wear letters at the end of the quarter.

A lot of this could have been avoided if during rush the sisters of SAEPi spent some time explaining that those given/accepting bids would have to abide by strict guidelines because they would be representing SAEPi even as pledges. Especially since there was some doubt as to the motives of a few of the rushees. I think that would have been a good way to weed some of them out as opposed to letting the process weed them out. They wouldn't have even needed to go into specifics. Just stating in general but uncertain terms that pledges of SAEPi are expected to avoid any behaviors that would reflect negatively on SAEPi would have sufficed. Then for those living in the pledge house, the morning/afternoon (any time before they had a chance to break rules) of move-in day, the sisters should have gone over all the rules/guidelines in full detail.

They had already been drinking in the house and had visitors before the rules had been established.

MTV Show
 

I just watched last Monday's show and I am appalled!! Jessica went out and got a bit tipsy and when one of her friends called her fellow pledges to come and get her, they straight lied like they didn't have a way to come and pick her up and the big sisters gave had to give her a ride home. The other 5 treat Jessica so badly!! These hot heffas would not last a day pledging a D9 sorority. Someone needs to set these little hot mamas straight! That is not sisterhood!

Just to step into your forum...

Those girls would not only "not last a day" pledging a D9 group, but they would not be allowed to be in an NPC group either! Please know that!

On another note, I think it is disgusting how they focus on Jordan and Candace just because they have the more "MTV" look. I think the only person in that house who I feel I would be friends with is Jessica, and they are treating her like a leper!

dzsaigirl :)

hey ladies...

i've been watch this MTV "sorority life" with a couple of friends and although none of my friends are greek...all they can say is that there is no kind of sisterhood with these chics. the situation with the rocks was ridiculous because they didn't even try to figure out what was it about and they way they welcomed jessica...calling her a spy.

needless to say this show is interesting and the way MTV portrays these pledges are drunks....whoa :eek:

i am interested in seeing how the other sides works...

all i now i my big sisters were NO where near as lienient as these sisters are...

Back in tha day GC regular
 

It's been a longgggg time! Glad to see you posting again.

:cool:

Candace is off the hook. Her parents went to the club with her for her birthday? WTF? She got wasted in front of her mom and dad? WTF? Mom and Dad got drunk in front of her, too? WTF?
Seriously dysfunctional!

I don't like that little Jessica chick either. I'm sorry, but I ain't feeling sorry for her at all. Her big ole tail was up in the club on the last episode, standing on tables, shakin' her azz. I don't like her little snickers about how she's not in trouble, etc when the other girls are.

It's about time they move some of the other girls into the pledge house. Starting w/ the next episode, all 18 pledges will be sleeping over 3 nights a week. It's about time.

I watched the lastest installment last night, and I just don't understand why the five original girls in the house want to join the sorority. I thought the big sisters were going to ask them that when they had to have yet another discussion with them, but of course they didn't, and I got the impression that the big sisters felt "guilty or bad" going to them and expressing their concerns.

I wonder if the big sisters knew these girls before the rush/pledge process. Aren't they juniors and seniors?? They should've known these were some hot mamas.

LOL..true, but don't you think she's just reacting to how they treat her?? I mean, the other girls have formed a clique. I thought it was sad that they didn't even try to pick her up whe she went clubbing, but they had no problem picking up Candace and Jordan from the club. That's shady.

It's not about sisterhood
 

I'm not at all surprised Candace and Jessica are not good examples of sisterhood. They joined the sorority for one reason only, to get some face time on MTV. Don't you think it's strange that Candace, who could have easily joined any other sorority, joined an all jewish sorority when she's not even Jewish? Even though I know any sorority welcomes all backgrounds, but common!!!!! She just wanted to get on MTV. Why would she care about sisterhood? I also found a short film about sorority life that you should all check out. It's a different way to look at sororities, seen throough the eyes of a houseboy. It's only like 4 minutes, tell me wha tyou think. Here's the link:
http://www.dvvideo.com/watch/houseBoy/houseBoy.html

I also feel bad for Jessica, but I blame MTV.


1-4-all

Is anyone still watching this show. I saw it last night and was LMAO at dumb-a$$ Candace's drunk tail kissing the guy the Amanda liked. Her drunk behind was talking about "I'm so sorry..when I get drunk I just kiss guys...I don't even know that I'm doing it until it's already done".

Drunk Azz Candace...
 

I was like, WTF :eek: - that heffa need to learn how to hold her liquor. One of these days she's gonna kiss the wrong guy and get hurt :mad: And what was up with her need to sleep in the same bed with Amanda????

Amanda said it right...drunkeness is NOT an excuse. I think most people on here can say they have been pretty wasted at soem point. Has anyone just arbitrarily kissed a guy that you KNEW your girl had a crush on? Probably NOT. Boo! on that excuse.

Amanda should told my girl Jordan so she could have cursed Candace out. I will wait til next week to see because it looks like Jordan does curse Candace out for something.

It seems like Jordan is jealous of Amanda and Candace's friendship. I don't think Amanda is going to tell Jordan that Candace kissed him though. She was wrong for kissing him though.
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Amateur housewife

Actually....
 

..I think Jordan's gonna curse Amanda out...AGAIN...Jordan might be a tad bit jealous (of Amanda & Candace)...and, was kind of out of line during her "discussion" with Amanda about apologizing...but, she's right about Amanda...she's a follower--plain & simple...and, insecure...Candace's behind would not have followed me into that car after she was all kissing that guy...Even if I was crying (like Amanda was in the car)...I'd have made it perfectly clear that she needed to keep her distance for her own safety...and, she wasn't sorry that she kissed that boy b/c she kept putting her finger to her lips as in "be quiet..Amanda's right behind us" after they kissed about 3-4 times...So, she's full of it...and, another thing why didn't she run around kissing strange men when she went out drinking with her parents???:confused:..So, she's making this mess up as she goes along, apparently....UGH!!!