Is a "Pimps and Ho's Party" disrepectful???
 

I have to ask this...

I know that some fraternities have a "Pimps and Ho's" party. Some brothers want to bring it up to my chapter to have one, but I think that is it disrespectful, and kinda racist. Am I overreacting??? I mean, it's just for fun, but it just seems as if that is playing on bad sterotypes. What do others think??? Have we gotten so P.C. on campus that things like the KA's "Old South" party and the ever popular "Screw your Roommate" party are wrong? What do you think?:confused:

pimps and hos
 

I totally agree with you -sure it's fun to have theme parties but I myself can't see dressing like a "ho" ... I think that it is degrading -I am not one of those psycho feminist people but pimps can be any race (as can hos) but being a pimp doesn't really carry the same connotation. I just don't really see the good of it besides showing some skin... am I wrong?

I also wanted to say we just got phi sig back on campus (after 6 years) and I think they are some of the nicest guys... Dan Patrick from ESPN was one at my school -way to uphold the image!

To me, it's not really disrespectful. To our Executive Council, it was.

But I can totally understand what you're saying. You're not overreacting at all!

The semester I 'pledged' AGD, the Social Chair wanted to have a Pimp and Hoez party...the idea was nixed by EC...and b/c Risk Management was not approved, we ended up having it as an unofficial party at someone's house. While the majority in attendance were people of Greek affiliation, people ended up bringing guests along. Everyone understood that it was not affiliated with AGD in any way, and whoever wanted to come, came. Whoever was uncomfortable with the idea didn't have to attend, so everyone was happy with the end result.

Personally, I had fun because it was neat seeing everyone and their costumes (because to me, it really was a costume party).

Well, I don't really see it as disrespectful. A lot of greeks have that as a social on my campus. It's seen as "dress up" it's not like the boys run around flashing $10 bills in front of your face like you were indeed a "ho". I definetly don't see how it could be considered racist either. I think now a days everything has to be so PC to not upset everyone. I think people need to relax a little and not take everything so seriously, it's college for godsake!


Heather~

Every year our campus throws a couple of pimps and ho's parties. They are always great. The girls and guy love to dress up and get hammed. I think if you are going to have a theme party have it as that a theme...don't look too deep into things or your entire social scene will revolve around what is PC and what is not.
Here are some other ideas:
Gangsta Party
Anything for money
Stop Light Party
Jungle

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Sigma Pi:cool:

Maybe it's just my campus, but at the ones I've been to not all the pimps are guys, and not all the hos are girls. ;)

Lots of fun.
I'm not too worried about disrespecting actual pimps and hos!

Sounds no worse than the "White Trash Trailer Bash" that I know several different fraternities at different area schools throw.

Actually a Pimps & Ho's party was one of the best parties I've been to and had the most fun at.

What the difference between Pimps & Hos and Halloween? Nothing, everyone is dressing up as someone other than who they are in their everyday life.

Try having the girls dress like the Pimps and the guys dress like the Ho's...that is even more funny!!!

I don't understand how it could be viewed as racist? Every race has Pimps and ho's. That's way it's called the "oldest profession." They are everywhere!

We had pimps and hos mixers, but only with fraternities we were very close with and socialized with all the time - where we both knew it was a big goof. I would be leery of it with a fraternity I didn't know very well.

I don't find it offensive. It's actually a really fun social event. :)
The girls who didn't want to participate didn't. And, of course, not a single girl would dress completely trashy.

Okay, now that changes the whole dynamic. It came across that all the guys were the pimps and all the girls were the hoes.
I would have no issue at all being pimp, "pimping" a guy ho! :D

However, I still don't like the title of it. It can give the wrong impression, to the people on the outside looking in.

what is a screw your roommate party?

"Pimp's and Ho's party"?? :eek:
" White Trash Trailer Bash"??(how does one "dress up" as this?) :confused:

WTF, have folks lost all creativity when it comes to party themes???? I mean, they do sell books that cater specifically to party themes, backgrounds, etc.

I thought greeks (or maybe its just in BGLO culture) were considered role models and a "cut above"?

Do you think your founders would approve of party themes such as the ones above or is it keeping with the organizations core values and mission?

***shaking head*****

pimps and hoes....
i dont think its disrespectful at all, but i hate them. i have never had fun at one, and i have no idea how to dress like a pimp without going out and buying a bunch of stupid crap...lol.

well, what about the party that DTD threw? "Mekong Delta?" what about that? did anyone think that was a racist party? the guys dressed up as GI's and the girls dressed up as vietnamese hookers. is that racist or ignorant? or what about the delta sigma phi and beta theta pi party at auburn where members dressed up in blackface and KKK garb and made fun of the Ques? or is it all in innocent, good fun?

It's easy. Just get a wide hat, lime green suit, and a cane! :D

i share your sentiments honeykiss.

Goodwill, Salvation Army, or any Thrift Store. :)

White Trash Trailer Bash = wife beater t-shirts

We have pictures somewhere of the founders of our chapter involved in a Pimp's & Ho's party and other parties of this sort....so YES I'm sure they would have no problem with us having this type of party. It's all about having fun.

When I find a picture from one of our parties I will definitely post it. I think I have one with a guy in a lime green suit and a guy in a purple suit with his fiancee (one of my sisters). It is hilarious :)

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Let's face it, the guys probably want to have this kind of party so that the women will dress sexily. I remember in the Bridget Jones movie, they called it a "Vicars and Tarts" party.

I don't have a problem if people want to dress up and look sexy - that's fine. However, I have to say, that I really do not like the word "whore" (i.e. "ho")...I think whore is about the ugliest word you can call a woman, it is up there with the C-word.

Have a sexy dress party, just call it something else, other than "Pimps and Hoes".

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I have heard of people using the themes "shorties and 40's" or "players ball" as an alternative. I actually think pimps and hoes is a little extreme. What would the t-shirt look like? It is kind of funny though.

We had a mixer with Phi Delt called "Rags to Ritches" It was great! I really had the best time. Some people had on hillbilly type clothes and some had evening gowns. It went really well. I wore a polo dress with a sweater around my shoulders, pearls, a head band, and brighton sandals. I was the "country club type. I just wanted to suggest that because it went really well!

Wife beater t-shirts? i guess a stereotype is in the eye of the beholder....

Anyway, as stated earlier, I do not understand why you would want to associate your letter or orgs with something called those party themes listed earlier. Someone mentioned a party called "Players Ball", which I think is a better name for those that want to throw a "sexy party" (courtesy of CutiePie2000 ;) ).

Whole different Greek culture Honeykiss.

BGLO's could NEVER, EVER, EVER get away with a party like that. It wouldn't be dignified, and we wouldn't put our name on it.

That said, I personally see nothing wrong if a purely social GLO wants to have one. I've been to a pimps and hos party, and it was basically a costume party. Innocent fun I tell ya.

Just not something that I would want my Sorority affiliated with in any way.

Here is a few pictures of a few of my friends at a Halloween party. The guy was dressed as a pimp and one of my sorority sisters with him in the picture (his fiancee) was actually part of a group of girls who came as one of the girls from the Moulin Rouge video you see on MTV. If you look down further you can see the Christina wannabe.

By the way I'm the one with the blond afro :D

http://www.geocities.com/onemotherba...tyPeoples.html


What is the difference between a Pimp's & Ho's Party and Halloween??? Are you telling me that you have never been to a Halloween party where people went way overboard on their costume?

Lighten up people, don't try to ruin things that others think is fun.

LMAO!!! Yall are killin me in here!!!
 

I've never heard of a Pimps and Hoes party!!! That is just hilarioius!!!! But I agree with what's been said about the name, change it. I (the AKA) definitely wouldn't throw it. There's no way. No way.

White Trash Trailer Bash????? WTF? And you wear a wife beater? Everyone? Now this is STR8 out of control right here, lol.

This is hilarious, please, share some more!!!! I guess my school was kinda conservative. I'm feelin a little left out right about now, lol.

People were asked for an opinion, and they're going to give one. If you don't agree then disagree but no one is going to censor the opinion they were asked for because it might make you feel guilty.

Last time I checked I thought I did disagree and I thought I did give my opinion. What the hell would I feel guily for? :rolleyes:

I didn't ask your organization to throw this sort of party and I didn't tell them to stop having them...so what is the problem? What I meant my comment is that people shouldn't jump down other people's backs because of a type of party that they throw. Every organization is different...

Well, the tame version is quite simple. You just invite a date for your roommate (can't be their girlfriend or boyfriend), and vice versa. Now, there are varying themes on this, some not so nice, which I will not comment on:( But a fun variation of this is a "suitcase party". What this is that all the house members contribute money and buy two airline tickets to a weekend getaway (for us, somewhere like L.A. or Reno or even Las Vegas). Then, during the party, there is a drawing, and the lucky couple has to leave RIGHT AWAY for the trip!!! It can be kinda fun for a weekend diversion, and if the person you're with is the adventuresome type, it's not so bad...;)

We have never had pimp and ho at UofH but when I was at SMU they had it and I went once. It was pretty stupid. And some people really did dress nasty. They were trying to outlaw it since date rapes were occurring and stuff.

OK, I'll quote you again
 

I personally have no problem with these kinds of parties, as long as my org's name isn't attached. I've been to one and had fun, no problem. Anybody can do what they feel like doing.

Maybe you meant that people shouldn't attack, but the way you phrased this it really came across to me 'if you don't like these parties then don't say it because you'll ruin other people's good time.' I don't care about the issue one way or another, but if someone else doesn't like it they have just as much of a right as you do to say so.

All the attitude was not even necessary. Check thyself por favor.

These party ideas are original and unique. I agree that things have gotten out of control to remain PC to all groups of people, whether they are the pimps or the hos:) Have the mixer or party, it sounds to me just like any ol' costume party, what exactly is the harm in that?


P.S. Post some pics too, people always come up with the greatest ideas for these new themes!

- RUgreek

The first social we had when I was pledging was "Mobsters and Mistresses" which was basically "Pimps and Ho's of the Roaring 20's." It was funny that it snuck past Panhellenic radar, b/c when you think about it it was pretty ho-ish. Fishnets and boas for the girls, the guys get to look dignified in pinstripe. :D

Thank goodness this theme wasn't popular when I was in college in the late 1980s. I never would have gone to a mixer with such a title. My chapter has never had one, nor do I think it would, but last year, the chapter I ranked second on my bid card did. I was shocked and very glad I hadn't joined that organization. This is a perfect example of why Greeks have a bad image.

We've done a Reverse Pimp and Ho's party. It's sooooooo much better that way. The guys get all dressed up in drag, and so do we. I think that the guys almost have more fun that way, or at least they acted like they did. (But be sure that those pictures didn't make it to their rush scrapbook;) )

-Lil Snakey K

I would never participate in a "Pimps and Hoes" party. Never.


......Kelly :)

Re: Is a "Pimps and Ho's Party" disrepectful???
 

Ummmm.....YES its disrespectful. Not only the implication that pimps and hos denote a specific race (hence that it would be "kinda racist") (we all know prostitution is an equal opportunity business!), but as a woman, I wouldn't be caught dead portraying a "ho".

You have to remember the entire pimp/ho dynamic includes illegal activity and physical, mental and drug abuse of the prostitute to have her remain in the "stable". Yes, some prostitutes act voluntarily, but most stories include some sort of control to keep the money rolling in.

With that being said, I think the entire theme is disrespectful because of the connotations in that world, and isn't something to be trivialized in a party, even in the "reverse". (men as hos, women as pimps)

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Thank You, Virtual Violet, and everyone who has commented either for or against such a party. I realize that what Violet says is what I felt for myself about this party, and it isn't something that I want my group associated with. It may be fine for others, and that's their choice, but there are so many other fun themes out there that are not nearly as controversial so we really don't need this at my house. Thanks everyone for your input-it is really appreciated!

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You're welcome!