Best sports conference in the NCAA's?
 

Hey all you sports fans..

What is the best overall conference in the NCAA's? Big East? Big 10? Big XII? SEC? ACC? Big West? The answer is... None of those!! The Pac-10 will always reign supreme over ALL conferences in terms of the best in the country. Let me hear it!! Tell me why YOUR conference is the best!! I always cheer for a Pac-10 team when it's going up against another conference, even though I might HATE that school (like USC). What about you guys? Do you always root for your conference?

Well, I kind of like the Mid American Conference -- or the Yankee Conference -- or the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference.

Why?

Because they play sports for the enjoyment of the game -- not to show off for pro scouts or get big TV contracts.

I directed live TV sports broadasts for years, and among my very favorites were the service academy games, because with very few exceptions (although those were often notable), the academy athletes had no real shot at the pros. So they played for their teams and their schools -- not for personal benefit.

To me, the smaller conferences and the service schools really give some meaning to the term "scholar athlete."

The answer is simple and very clear guys!! It's the SEC!!!! GO Wildcats!!!!!

the ACC. No question!

OK...I agree with you about the conference but not the team. I bleed PURPLE AND GOLD!!! GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't go to a Big XII school (mine's NAIA) I live between two of them though, Oklahoma and OK St. Although I grew up a Sooner fan as my parents are both alums of Oklahoma.

If you start looking at teams that could be championship caliber teams and are consistantly good. Well you have more overall talent in the Big XII than anywhere else (in football OR basketball)

Take Football, Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado or Nebraska (if they get a good QB) could ALL be contenders for a championship. Kansas State and Texas A&M are also great programs. I'd be willing to say no conference has this much collective talent in their ranks.

Basketball? Big XII teams made up 1/2 of the Elite 8 and 1/2 of the final 4. No other conference even came close! SEC was out of the picture by the end of the Elite 8.

It's really hard to argue though which is better, SEC or Big XII. They definitely both have good arguements.

LHT
Kevin

Very well stated.

PAC 10!

As phikappasimian said, I always root for the pac 10 team, even if its a school I've been trained to hate, like UCLA. ha ha ha

GO TROJANS!!!!

Either the ACC or the SEC

all yall are wrong. the big 12 rocks!!! HOOK EM HORNS!!!!!!! oh, and go big red :)

You all say that your conference is the best...but show some proof! What conference, top to bottom, can compete with any other conference in ALL sports? I definitely think that the PAC-10 is the only one that can. Sure, the ACC has a few good basketball schools, but what else do you have? The SEC occasionally has Florida or Tennessee in football, and only Kentucky in basketball, and then what? The Big 10...we don't EVEN need to mention the Big 10-what have they brought recently? The Big XII has football, with OU and Texas and Nebraska, and basketball this year with OU and Kansas, but what else? Only the PAC-10 has it all-in every sport. I know a lot of you may think that the only sports that matter are football and basketball, but when you look at the schools that have won the most NCAA championships, the top three come from the PAC-10 (UCLA, Stanford, and USC). I think that the only sport the PAC-10 doesn't do well in is ice hockey-but that's okay, because we make up for it with water polo, tennis, golf and baseball. And for the most part, we actually graduate our student athletes! :D

Re: Best sports conference in the NCAA's?
 

EXACTLY!! Pac-10 rules!! (With the exception of one LA team that resides in Westwood... ;))

Did you all know that...

"Pac-10 members have claimed an incredible 59 NCAA team titles over the past seven seasons, for an average of more than eight championships per academic year.

"Even more impressive is the breadth of the Pac-10's success, as those 59 team titles over the past seven seasons have come in 21 different men's and women's sports. The Pac-10 has now led the nation in NCAA Championships 36 of the last 41 years and finished second four times.

"Spanning nearly a century of outstanding athletics achievement, the Pac-10 has captured 311 NCAA titles (238 men's, 73 women's), far outdistancing the runner-up Big Ten Conference's 185 titles.

"The Conference's reputation is further proven in the annual Sears Directors' Cup competition, the prestigious award that honors the best overall collegiate athletics programs in the country. Stanford continued its remarkable run in the 2000-01 season, winning its seventh consecutive Sears Directors' Cup. In the 2000-01 final standings, five of the Top 10, and seven of the top 14 Division I programs, were Pac-10 members.

"For its outstanding efforts in football and men's basketball in 2000-01, the Pac-10 became just the second conference in history to have three teams ranked in the Top 10 in the final Associated Press Football Poll and three teams reach the 'Elite Eight' of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament in the same season." -- From the Pac 10 site.


Though I must disagree with you, phikappapsiman, over the Trojans...USC rocks. We are the second most winningest NCAA team in terms of collegiate championships...I forget who's the number one team though. (It's not UCLA...UCLA's after USC, haha.)

I don't understand how come there is all that "East Coast" influence. With the exceptions of Duke, Maryland, I honestly don't get all the hype surrounding the ACC. And as for the SEC, what is that all about? :confused: They are powerhouses in football, that's for sure...but I'm sure most Pac-10 teams could beat most any SEC team on any given day in any other sport.

I get so bored if a matchup is not Pac-10 or at least interesting (e.g., the UCLA-Kansas b-ball game...too bad the wrong team won!).

I must say though that after the Pac 10, I like the Big Ten.

Who has the better confrerence doesn't matter as much team wise as who has the best individuals. It is hard to call pac-10, for example, a good confrerence if say their best player is from the east coast. Doesn't happen always but many schools recruit for players all over the nation. Individual schools and conferences are merely "places to play" in my opinion.

And I still agree with what delt alum says, those small time confrerences like the Wcc or the Colonial conference play for the love of the game without the hope of being "noticed".

Well then, obviously the Pac 10 does a damn good job of recruiting for their conference. Of course every conference recruits. Many West Coast HS players also go to the East Coast...a lot are in the Big Ten who come from the Bay Area.

I agree with that sentiment Ex-greek, but why does it have to be either/or? I mean, I'm sure that a lot of athletes in "big " conferences love the game also, and play not because they are looking to go pro, but maybe because they want to play with and agsinst the best competition around. That's why the NCAA basketball tournament is so much fun...you have schools like Maryland and Duke and Kansas, but you also have your Gonzagas and Richmonds and Sienas-and some of those these guys DO get noticed (John Stockton and Casey Calvary and others). And not just in basketball either. I mean, didn't Jay Fiedler of the Miami Dolphins go to Dartmouth? That's hardly a football "powerhouse". I personally love watching WCC basketball on TV here in the Bay Area-I actually go to a few USF games. :)

Thanks for ehhh saying what I was saying

To quote:

"I agree with that sentiment Ex-greek, but why does it have to be either/or?"

To answer:

Because athletics are a big business for the top conferences and schools. They bring in lots of money. The bring in lots of donations from alumni. They get the university name on TV and in the newspapers.

Because a lot of folks only go to college because they pretty much have to at least make a token appearance in school before moving on to the pros.

I am NOT making a sweeping generalization that all jocks are dumb. There are Rhodes Scholars and many bright and talented athletes. The recently deceased Byron "Wizzer" White, former US Supreme Court justice was an All American at Colorado. And there are some who are dumber than a brick and only make it into college because of their athletic skills. The big time colleges and conferences will do just about anything (sometimes even "extralegal things) for the big names.

Most of the Ivy League schools, and many other "highly selective" colleges have gone to a system of giving scholarships only on a "need" basis and not talent or academic merit.

Except for athletic scholarships. They all give those. Who runs those schools, the administration or the NCAA?

Sorry, I like college sports as well as anyone -- and made part of my living televising them for many years -- but there's something wrong with that in the overall scheme of things.

That's why I like the smaller schools and conferences. They seem so much closer to the ideals of athletics and so much less "professional."

It's all about the Big 10 (11)!

Second fave is the Big East

Yea Big Ten!

actually the big 12 can compete in almost anything. for instance, nebraska baseball went to the college world series last year and have been ranked high this year. our volleyball team is always a national contender, and i cant remember all what the other schools can do.

ACK! Basically half of the Big 12 in a good year could be contenders for a title in Football (when their stars are in proper alignment, etc.)

We're going to have one of those seasons this year I think where at the end you have to ask yourself which 2 Big XII teams deserve to be in the championship game the most :D

I only really pay attention to football...

Yeah lets uhhh conviently leave out the fact that there were no big 12 teams in the finals in basketball and Colorado and Nebraska got absolutly humiliated in the top 2 bowls in college football this past season.;)

Yeah, Nebraska probably didn't belong in that top game... But how many other conferences could claim the same number of people that even made it to top bowl games? Oh.. I thought so.

As for basketball... I don't think there was another conference that fielded TWO teams in the final 4. SEC? Nope.... Pac 10? Nope...

There were good individual teams in those other conferences but we're not talking about individuals. This is a conference discussion.

ill argee, nebraska didnt deserve to be in that game, and i knew they had no chance against miami. i think oregon wouldve played better and deserved to be there more. the reason nebraska didnt play well can be sumed up in two words, eric crouch. its so good hes gone now.

Have you heard anything about who Nebraska is starting at QB this year? I hear it's that Lords guy. Haven't heard anything about him though except the same usual hype.

0-2 0-2 0-2, the mac conference could have fared just as well, sorry

yet again 0-2 0-2 0-2 yeah stick fairfield and siena in those slots instead and you get the same record, sorry again. Not trying to rip on you but when it comes to the big 12, I always feel as if they are wasting tv time talking about them. Kansas basketball is a perenial example of this.

Hey ktsnake...

You should be pleased to hear then that Football Digest in it's most recent issue, pickes Oklahoma and Texas #1 and #2, especially since Oklahoma does not play Nebraska this year, and Colorado comes to Norman. The Oklahoma/Texas game in Dallas is supposed to be the game of the year this year. It will be interesting how Chris Simms handles the pressure without Major Applewhite there...

Because I have a strong regional bias, I'm going to say SEC all the way! Goooo Gators!

But, I do agree with what DeltAlum said about the service academy teams. So much of what goes on in college athletics is corporatized, so the kids aren't playing "for the love of the game" anymore. When you have football coaches making more than the college president (as is what Steve Spurrier did throughout his reign--not including endorsements!), you know something's up. Which is why I enjoy Ivy League games. In fact, the Ivy League was founded as an athletic conference in the 50's to ensure amateurism in athletic competitions. Schools which give hopped-up aid packages to recruited athletes can get nasty NCAA sanctions, as what happened to Brown last year. It's different from what I'm used to during the Gators' glory days.

But it's certainly refreshing.

I'm actually really looking forward to that. I got to go to the game last year. Hopefully will get to go this year also. Not to offend TX fans but Mr. Simms seems VERY overrated. I can't think of any good team he actually performed well against.... (last year's OU TX game he scored more for OU on interception passes than he did all game)... They would have won the Big 12 if they'd have put in Applewhite for the whole game.

If he hasn't changed any from his old self it really won't be that much of a game. But if you've never been it's pretty nice. It's at the Cotton Bown during the TX State Fair (the Cotton Bowl is right in the middle of the fairgrounds). Good times.

The MIAA Conference is not in the BIGGIES, But there are some very strong Div II schools here all in teh Ks and Mo. States!

Pittsburg State U. ( My Alma Mater ) and Nw Mo. St. U ( also a school I was Kicked out of ) Will be playing in Arrow Head Stadium in KC Oct. 17 th.

Not to many Even Big Time Schools will play in a venue such as this!

If you check what Conference is in most major school playoffs, the Big 12 Rules!!!!!!

Each conference always has one or two teams that rule and once in a while let tthe other guy slip in as they have a bad year!

If you figure that who the MAJOR TEAMS in a Conference are, then they are semi pro teams for the over priced JOCK STRAPS that play Major League Sports!

My Big Sport is GOLF, The Man/Woman against the elements and themselves only! That and any track and field sport is the thing!

ktsnake- yeah, right now the starter is Lords. supposedly he can throw better but is still a runner, from what ive seen when hes played, he sucks, about as bad as crouch. theres a younger guy named mike stuntz that can throw really well and people are looking at him to do big things in the future.

The SEC has the craziest controversies!!!!!!!!!!!

GO RAZORBACKS!!!!!!!!

(Ya just gotta laugh sometimes!!!!:D :rolleyes: )

hee hee hee hee