Gamma Chi - yes or no?
 

Editing a post that's over a decade old . . .

Gamma Chi was an interesting concept, but not meant to be. We are all GreekChat members, and that is sufficient.

yo
 

i say #1

I vote for #4, this is getting TOOO complicated!

TG

I agree with above stated #4...it is very complicated and waht was once a wonderful idea has become a real complicated mess...

Please DONT flame me for this coming my opinion...BUT
Gamma Chi or Greek Chat...is to promote ideas of people everywhere...

OK well isnt that what we do all the time???
We ALLLLLL come here to talk and share ideas regardless of the letters we wear...
and if you think about it we are ALLLL members of Gamma Chi regardless of how many posts we have, or how many times we come here to post....
Its all about the ideas and qualitys we bring to the community...

Dont get me wrong..the idea of getting "inntiated" and involved in Gamma Chi sounds like ALOT of fun....but I think that the basic idea should be coming together to talk be friends and have a good time...not whether u are on this side of the US can go to this confrence or that confrence and its not about if u are innitiated either...

WE ARE ALL GREEKS...And we are all UNITED in one COMMUNITY called Greek Chat.... Or if you like Gamma Chi....

But if you like to keep it going all the more power to you! good luck...but all of a sudden it seems that GC has been inundated with posts about Gamma Chi and this innitation and that innitiation... when it seems that we have lost the actual meaning..which is to come together to SHARE ideas....

OK enough You get my point...But please dont flame me...I agree Gamma Chi is a good idea..but sometimes simplified things are better off in the end....

Good Luck to all You people organizing and creating Gamma Chi and to all those people involved....

Ok, wait, wait, wait....
 

Ack! May I ask that people don't give their statements about Gamma Chi, just vote for a # 1-4.

MoonStar17, I'm just afraid that, if people give their extended opinions, this thread will turn into another war like the other thread did. I think aephi alum just wanted to get a vote. I'm not flaming you....I just don't want someone to come back at you with a mean reply or something and then all heck will break loose. :)


I vote for #2 - it's a good compromise.


......Kelly :)

I amin favor of #2

I vote for #3 or #2.

May i suggest a #5... continue on with all the Gamma Chi stuff, but perhaps create a new forum for it (just like we have Greek Life, Rush, Chit Chat, etc.) that way those who want to be involved can, the Greek Life board won't be "cluttered up" with posts about it, and those who aren't interested don't have to deal with it?

Just my $.02

I am in favor of #4.

I vote for #4.

I read over everything and I have to say number 4

OK, I was going to say #3. But then I thought ...

Actually, we aren't all Greek here - some of us are future Greeks, or former Greeks, or are in social vs. professional vs. service fraternities, which aren't necessarily the same thing.

But then, what's the point of Gamma Chi? If it just means you are a member of GreekChat (including the anti-Greeks and the troublemakers), then it doesn't necessarily even support Greek life, and it's a fancy way of saying "chat group member." It's like putting a bow on a poodle - it makes the poodle look cute, maybe, but it's still a dog.

So I guess I will vote for #4 UNLESS someone can come up with a clear vision for Gamma Chi, and to my mind that would include less of the trappings of a Greek organization and more of a plan for furthering membership in Greek organizations and growing Greek systems.

I vote for #4

#4

I vote for either #1 or #2, but I think that #2 would be best and easier. :)

Ronnie :D

4.

M
Sigma Nu
Knox College

#4

#2

I haven't really been a part of any discussions about this Gamma Chi thing, but I honestly see no point in it. New member ceremony? Wearing GC letters? This is just a forum, not a fraternity/sorority. #4.

#4

#4 or like someone else said, make it its own forum.

I say #2.... and BTW... just wondering of the people voting for #4 were ever interested in the first place... because if you just aren't interested at all... don't join... IMO...the only reason not go move on would be if people who were interested aren't anymore for whatever reason :D But I do think we should start a Gamma Chi Forum that way.. no one would have to see threads about GC if they didn't want to and we wouldn't have to have all the different discussions on the "an idea" thread :)

As for whoever put that last post up about not putting your opinion, check on it Glitter.

#4 or create a forum for it.

#4
:cool:

Well obviously, I am going to drop my two cents in, honestly, those who say #4 are the ones who really aren't interested or weren't interested in the beginning. So really the vote is somewhat bias, if you ask the people who actually wanted to participate(like the people on the alpha list) then I think it would make more of a differance. The people on the Alpha list are the people who are doing the work, the people who are on the committee's. So no offense to those who weren't involved in the beginning, but those who are involed their opinions matter more for the fact they are the ones putting the effort in.and they are the ones who need to know whether to continue their efforts or not. Just a thought ya think :D
Oh yea my vote hmm 2 or 3



DGP~Honey~

#2

Christin

I am on the Alpha List, I did all the families...and I don't want to belong to this.

and someone tell me what phi gamma chi is?

Although I understand what you and Glitter650 are saying, I think that the GCers who aren't interested in Gamma Chi have as much right to voice their opinion about it and have their vote included as those who are. The reason is because the whole Gamma Chi issue seems to be stirring up quite a few problems here on GC and has been the cause for several arguments -- so we're having to deal with all the drama whether we've chosen to "join" Gamma Chi or not. :(

Quite frankly, I'm beginning to wish the whole thing had never gotten off the ground because it seems like GreekChat was a much happier place before all the controversy started. Don't get me wrong -- I think that the whole Gamma Chi idea was originally clever and cute, but the concept of making it a real GLO is kind of far-fetched to me. Rituals and new member classes for a bunch of people who have never even met each other -- who don't even know what each other looks like??? :confused: It just seems a little strange in my book, especially since most of the people who are getting so excited about GX have their own organizations that would probably love to have that kind of excitement directed towards them.

At first, I was thinking "live and let live" and had decided not to add my .02 to the issue. However, I feel like something needs to be said now that so much in-fighting has been going on -- and that's why I voted for #4.

2/3 if someone is willing to help (and I will make time to help) come up with clear cut vision. No ceremonies, rituals or membership requirements. Otherwise, If a majority say 4, than 4-it. :)

My apologies if any thing I posted, offended.

#3 *IF* those who are involved can find some marketable USEFUL purpose for GX. Something besides what we have already... Educational stuff, conventions... whatever.

#4 if things keep going the way they are currently.

#4. Not to say that I do not want to still get a group of GCers together at different places around GreekDom,to meet and share ideas as we all do in real life with real people!

We all have a common goal, that is to work with our Fellow Greeks for the Betterment!

I for one have a priority of working with My Local Chapter to Build a New House and to work with My International Organization.

But I would still like to Meet some of My Fellow GCers!:D

Well, I for one never wanted to do anything with GX, so I won't officially vote, but can we still have GC regional conventions? They don't have to be anything formal, I just want to meet some of y'all.

I think my first post on GChi
 

When the idea first came up, I thought the concept was as such: an informal group of Greeks and non-Greeks, brought together by Greek Chat that crossed the needs of individual organizations and respective umbrella organizations. Kind of like a "big umbrella" organization, if you will. I thought it might provide the opportunity to think of and implement tools, ideas and strategies that would re-establish Greek Life as a positive and beneficial experience on both campuses and within the community, as well as showcasing and encouraging the commonality of the Greek Experience regardless of your NPHC, NPC, NIC, MGLOC, LGLOC, Local, or non-Greek backgrounds. Gamma Chi would also be a good opportunity to meet with your fellow GC folks around the country: for GChatters, I think Greek Chat has become a hobby and lifestyle much like collecting fine wine, crystal or Star Trek memorabilia. There is certainly nothing wrong with that.

Then I didn't pay too much more attention to it.

Then I started to notice membership requirements, public relations, Alpha classes, induction ceremonies...etc. It started to look like folks were spending considerable time and effort in "creating" the trappings of a fledgling, formal organization, rather than turning attention on ways to make ALL Greeks more visible in a positive way via creating a "Gamma Chi All Greek World" Day around the country or a “October is Promote Greek Life month”, for example.

What I "thought" was the concept of Gamma Chi is I believe a noble one: it certainly would provide an opportunity to learn more about each other in this eventual Greek World. However, it certainly looks more and more like Gamma Chi was really about creating yet another formal organization to which to belong. For some reason, that doesn't sit as well with me as my original thoughts about the organization.

So while my opinion may not be worth the keyboard I'm using to type it with, I think that #3 may provide a good opportunity to really think about what type of group would be most beneficial to promote cross-functional relationships between Greek Organizations coupled with the opportunity to highlight the benefits of Greek membership. Maybe that takes a formal membership induction, membership classes and the like...then again, maybe it doesn't.

Best,
Shel

big ol' 4

My intention in posting this was twofold.

1. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, I wanted to know if we wanted to go ahead with a new member ceremony. After reading over this thread and the other Gamma Chi related posts, I feel we shouldn't, at least not at this time.

2. I wanted to get a sense from all GreekChatters (not just those of us who have been more active in trying to put Gamma Chi together) about whether we collectively feel Gamma Chi is a good idea, a bad idea, or something we should just all forget about. I still feel the original idea behind Gamma Chi was good, but it has created so much controversy that I believe it should be shelved for a while. Hopefully, at some future date we can resurrect the original ideas without it tearing us apart, but for now, I suggest we just move on with being GreekChat.

ZN TKE- right on
 

OK- this Gamma Chi stuff is the biggest bunch of hoopla Ive ever seen, you are greeks on a chat board- not a fraternity or whatever the hell "E- chapter is" give me a break.

Im a greek alumni for my chapter at my college, and as far as Im concerned I enjoy the posts I read here but the idea of an organization based on it, with conventions is a joke at best, and an embarrassment at worst.

To sum up my opinions Ill quote Ice- T

"who gives a f*ck?"

Lenoxxx

PS- ZNTke- you hit it right on the head

Well, you don't have to give a fuck, of course, but someones obviously do (both pro and con), or there wouldn't be such a ruckus going on here!

i think after reading and re-reading things, i am voting #4.

i am on the alpha list, and i was initially interested in serving as a "mentor" . but after spending lots of time today reading over things, i have to agree that i am not sure what the point is....or how its different from greek chat in general. since someone got spanked for leaving a comment - ill stop now :) sorry hehe :p

4
 

#4

Someone said:
"just wondering of the people voting for #4 were ever interested in the first place..."

Well, speaking from my own POV, I wasn't ever interested because I could see all this drama coming from a mile away...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Also, can I remind you all of the countless posts where people have said things along the lines of "I don't love my GLO merely because of the ritual, or the symbols, or the philanthropy, but because of the brotherhood/sisterhood it brings?"

Well, until recently, I personally think GC HAD all that fun, fuzzy, brotherhood/sisterhood stuff. And if attaching all the other features of a GLO to Greekchat jeopardizes that camaraderie, is it really worth it?