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AG13 09-19-2015 03:58 PM

Advice appreciated (if any) 😭
 
Okay so, my freshman year of college I attended an A&M branch with absolutely no National Greek life. I managed to get my basics out of the way and I transferred a year later as a sophomore (but junior in hours) I didn't really know about how big and awesome Greek life was because I wasn't exposed to it and missed out on formal rush. I wanted to spring rush, but I wanted to be able to get to know all the houses because only like 4 houses were spring rushing, so I missed out on that chance. I wanted to do formal rush this year, but AXiD was colonizing this semester and thought it would've been perfect for me because I am now a junior (senior in hours) and they were looking to colonize girls of all ages! This meant I could not do formal rush and I took that risk and rushed AXiD the week after formal rush. Unfortunately, PNMs were not allowed to be in any organization and I was disqualified after pref night because I was in a law organization:(

If everything goes well and my degree plan doesn't change, I have the opportunity to graduate early this May. However, I do feel like I missed out on a great opportunity of sisterhood and college experience! I have Greek friends that keep telling me I should rush and that I would be a perfect member, but I'm still unsure if I will get a bid or not this spring because of my classification. I have a good gpa, am well rounded, and have a genuine interest in becoming part of something so great! I heard you can't just open rush a sorority either, so you just have to wait for spring :( I know this is an awkward situation so anyone have any advice on this? if there is any I know I'm a lost hope lol

Katmandu 09-19-2015 04:05 PM

I am sorry things didn't work out, and am completely confused by the rule that PNMs can't be in any other organization. That is new to me.

flirt5721 09-19-2015 04:11 PM

I'm not understand about not being part of any organization. I have never heard this unless it's school specific.

Alpha O 09-19-2015 04:34 PM

Was this rule that "PNMs were not allowed to be in any organization" something that was explicitly stated or something that you are assuming? Were you specifically told that you were disqualified due to your involvement in a different on campus organization? If not, why do you think this is the case?

Like my fellow GCers, I have never heard of this before and would, in fact, assume that the opposite is true--that a GLO would look to choose members who are involved in other on campus organizations.

Titchou 09-19-2015 04:35 PM

You could have gone thru formal recruitment. And I've never heard of not being allowed to be in another organization. In fact, they usually require that you join at least one or two other orgs. Something is amiss here.

jolene 09-19-2015 04:41 PM

Something sounds off. As long as you aren't a part of an NPC org, Alpha Xi Delta will let you join.

KSUViolet06 09-19-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AG13 (Post 2355096)
Okay so, my freshman year of college I attended an A&M branch with absolutely no National Greek life. I managed to get my basics out of the way and I transferred a year later as a sophomore (but junior in hours) I didn't really know about how big and awesome Greek life was because I wasn't exposed to it and missed out on formal rush. I wanted to spring rush, but I wanted to be able to get to know all the houses because only like 4 houses were spring rushing, so I missed out on that chance. I wanted to do formal rush this year, but AXiD was colonizing this semester and thought it would've been perfect for me because I am now a junior (senior in hours) and they were looking to colonize girls of all ages! This meant I could not do formal rush and I took that risk and rushed AXiD the week after formal rush. Unfortunately, PNMs were not allowed to be in any organization and I was disqualified after pref night because I was in a law organization:(

If everything goes well and my degree plan doesn't change, I have the opportunity to graduate early this May. However, I do feel like I missed out on a great opportunity of sisterhood and college experience! I have Greek friends that keep telling me I should rush and that I would be a perfect member, but I'm still unsure if I will get a bid or not this spring because of my classification. I have a good gpa, am well rounded, and have a genuine interest in becoming part of something so great! I heard you can't just open rush a sorority either, so you just have to wait for spring :( I know this is an awkward situation so anyone have any advice on this? 🙈 if there is any I know I'm a lost hope lol

That sounds very strange as sororities encourage women to be part of other orgs.

This is going to sound weird but when I hear these kinds of things, I always wonder if it's just the blanket answer given to avoid disclosing the actual reasons people didn't get bids (as that is private info.)

Or what PNMs are theorizing because they don't want to entertain the fact that they just weren't selected. They WANT there to be some sort of external factor rather than "well they just weren't interested."

Either way, I am sorry you didn't get a bid.

FSUZeta 09-19-2015 07:42 PM

That does not sound right. I think you misunderstood. I have never heard of PNMs interested in a colony not being allowed to participate in formal recruitment. Ever.

navane 09-19-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AG13 (Post 2355096)
I wanted to spring rush, but I wanted to be able to get to know all the houses because only like 4 houses were spring rushing, so I missed out on that chance.


I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you in joining a sorority or colonizing the new sorority.


To clarify the above quote from your previous post: you didn't miss out on the chance - you chose not to participate.


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I wanted to do formal rush this year, but AXiD was colonizing this semester and thought it would've been perfect for me because I am now a junior (senior in hours) and they were looking to colonize girls of all ages! This meant I could not do formal rush and I took that risk and rushed AXiD the week after formal rush.
The best strategy in this case would have been to participate in formal recruitment and then look into the colony should formal recruitment have not worked out.

Who told you that you could not participate in the formal recruitment if you were interested in the colony?


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Unfortunately, PNMs were not allowed to be in any organization and I was disqualified after pref night because I was in a law organization:(
Who advised you that participating in any outside clubs would cause you to not be considered for AXiD?

Griffins&Quills 09-19-2015 08:50 PM

This is strange because my chapter of Alpha Xi actually requires us to be involved in at least 1 other campus organization :confused:

AG13 09-19-2015 10:41 PM

Thank you all for your replies and yes this is a new rule they implemented not too long ago. A lot of people were automatically disqualified due to being in other organizations. Around 40 girls from a separate service fraternity were cut due to this issue mainly because they take time away from the colonizing sorority. This was all new to me too but that is exactly what they told us after our interviews

Titchou 09-19-2015 10:43 PM

How did you get to pref then if they disqualified you after interviews?????

And they wouldn't take Miss America if she wouldn't give up her crown?

No, I don't think so.....

AG13 09-19-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2355138)
I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you in joining a sorority or colonizing the new sorority.


To clarify the above quote from your previous post: you didn't miss out on the chance - you chose not to participate.




The best strategy in this case would have been to participate in formal recruitment and then look into the colony should formal recruitment have not worked out.

Who told you that you could not participate in the formal recruitment if you were interested in the colony?




Who advised you that participating in any outside clubs would cause you to not be considered for AXiD?


The rules at our school require us to not not participate in formal recruitment due to the massive amount of girls that go through formal recruitment. And the person that advise me was one of the AXiD members that now work for AXiD and that we spoke to individually at our personal information session

Griffins&Quills 09-20-2015 09:31 AM

This just doesn't sound right because it's not how we do colonies.

jenidallas 09-20-2015 12:57 PM

I'm 99% certain I know the school you attend and women were allowed to participate in formal recruitment and then participate in colony recruitment.

I think where you are getting confused is that women participating in formal recruitment who decided to participate in extension recruitment were not able to sign MRABAs - so they had to withdraw before bid day.

So you technically could have participated in formal but would have had to withdraw before it was completed should you decide to pursue it. You couldn't accept a bid and then try to participate in the colony.

Colony recruitment is competitive. Organizations want to select women who have the time and energy to devote to building the chapter on campus.

My mom was an Alpha Xi Delta colony member and I've heard many stories about the hard work they put in!

jenidallas 09-20-2015 01:04 PM

Also, I'm fairly certain that there is at least one chapter on your campus who is still eligible for fall COB. If you know women in that chapter and really want to be Greek, I dncourage you to reach out and express your interest.

33girl 09-20-2015 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AG13 (Post 2355164)
Thank you all for your replies and yes this is a new rule they implemented not too long ago. A lot of people were automatically disqualified due to being in other organizations. Around 40 girls from a separate service fraternity were cut due to this issue mainly because they take time away from the colonizing sorority. This was all new to me too but that is exactly what they told us after our interviews

I'm betting that it had nothing to do with time management - rather that the girls from the service fraternity were rushing as a block and attempting to commandeer the new colony. This would have created major clique issues and that's not the way to get a colony started. The national volunteers who are choosing the members have very finely tuned drama detectors.

navane 09-20-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2356095)
I'm betting that it had nothing to do with time management - rather that the girls from the service fraternity were rushing as a block and attempting to commandeer the new colony. This would have created major clique issues and that's not the way to get a colony started. The national volunteers who are choosing the members have very finely tuned drama detectors.


That was my first thought too.

DubaiSis 09-20-2015 03:10 PM

This sounds much more plausible to me. Colonies are such tricky entities. It only takes a few girls thinking they are running the show to completely derail the progress. That is not to say that's what happened with the OP, but fear of that could be the issue.

It seems Alpha Xi Delta's colony procedure lately has been to take less than the maximum allotted number of girls. If you are still interested, you might express that interest and make clear you are not part of a kabal of girls who think they will be running this chapter. If I am understanding how it works lately, they start the colony and then add groups of girls later, and in the spring after the colony is a chapter.

I am not promising anything (I have no direct connection with our colony there), but I think continued interest could possibly pay off. Go gently.

jenidallas 09-20-2015 03:52 PM

It certainly didn't take very long for this thread to move over to that other site... ugh. Enough!

carnation 09-20-2015 04:00 PM

Ugh. What does it say on the other site?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2356095)
I'm betting that it had nothing to do with time management - rather that the girls from the service fraternity were rushing as a block and attempting to commandeer the new colony. This would have created major clique issues and that's not the way to get a colony started. The national volunteers who are choosing the members have very finely tuned drama detectors.

Does this happen much--groups trying to commandeer colonies? I have heard of it happening when a groups of friends join a WRC.


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