Are some phrases/words SPECIFIC to certain Greek orgs?
 

Courtesy of Soror Happydays...

All greeks...are there terms you only associate with your group or organization and would automatically think the peson is a soror or frat just because they used them? Would you be totally offended by an interest on GC using such?

Some examples would be Pretty Girls, Finer Womanhood, Dawg, Pretty Boys, etc.

I guess I'll take the bit. ;)

Something blatant like "ivy", "08", "AKA", etc... yeah, that's a problem. If I see something like "pretty girl", I'm probably going to wonder if that's my soror. I know a lot of people have problems with things like that, but I guess I don't because of my own experience here on GC. I got a few PMs after I crossed where people were surprised I had interest in AKA.. since my screen name is "SweetestDiva ", "Diva" being a term associated with Delta Sigma Theta. Well, since I had no interest in Delta, it never really struck me not to use it. I never would have used a handle like pretty girl since I was interested in AKA, or Diva anything if I was interested in DST. I think it's common sense to stay away from certain catchphrases of the org. you're interested in.... but nothing to beat them over the head about.

Skee Wee

'000000000000000000000000008!!!

Pretty-n-Pink

Gorgeous-n-Green

Phirst and the Phinest

Pretty Girls Incorporated

Pretty Ladies

I'm pretty on the left,I'm pretty on the right...

Not conceited,just convinced

Allllpha Kappa Allllpha (elongating the pronunciation as most SORORS do)

Just to name a few.....................................

hmmmm...
 

Pretty Girls, Incorporated is the official name of an auxiliary group -- formerly Kappa Sweethearts. Therefore, I would think you are a sweetheart and not my soror if you used that handle...

Also, Pretty on my left and pretty on my right...well, that's an old Kappa chat....As I recall, Sorors 'borrowed' (smile) this (I'm pretty on my left, I'm pretty on my right..I'm so dang pretty I can't sleep at night...aw, aw, awwww)...therefore, I would assume you were a Kappa if you had this anywhere in your tag....

I guess...as long as you are not saying you are an AKA (soror)....I'm fine with it all. Some things such as the letters AKA, '08, skee-wee, ivy and 20 pearls I associate with the organization...but not other things like someone having pink, green, first, conceited, convinced, pretty girl/lady or etc. in their tag....

BTW....thanks Ideal....I was really wondering was it just me in the Alpha forum. :D

The previous examples were good ones. If I saw someone with those words in their handle, I'd wonder if they knew any better, and if not... why not?

It all goes back to researching & knowing enough about the org that you're interested in, especially if you are creating a screen name and signature to post in this type of environment, so as not to offend. I am aware that sometimes people do/ say things without even realizing that it may be offensive.

Some other examples that may cause us to go :eek: :

A Kappa interest with Smooth, Suave, Debonnaire (sp) or Pretty in their name.

An Alpha interest with any reference to Apes, Ice, Cold, in their name.

Looking at the popularity of : Pretty Girls wear 20 Pearls...

An AKA interest with Pretty, Pearls, pinkies or noses in their screen name.

the usage of ANY founder/incorporator, member's name:

OneofEthel'sgirls
Oneof2D's girls...LMAO

I think on another site, someone used something with Ethel...:eek:

my take
 

I'm pretty on the left,I'm pretty on the right...


when I hear that phrase I think of Kappas, out here in Cali, that's more of a Kappa thing than aka thing.

I also noticed something that changed(not trying to start mess)
but when I crossed in 96, the aka's were known for saying the chant "I said my sorors, you looking good today, well an aka looks good everyday! skee-wee!" But now that's strictly a Zeta chant out here now, I was like WTH? But I still associate that chant with the aka's.

Diva's and Delta go hand in hand and I haven't heard anyone in Cali call themselves otherwise:D

Bruhs is associated with the Ques. They also coined the phrases "Be Out" and "Cat". And a lot of other terms The Ques don't get credit for. Now I hear every frat calling his frat "bruhs".

Sigmas are associated with being called "Sigmas" I know other places that Rho's are called "Sigmas" or "Lady Sigmas". In cali we call them Rho's.

The Chant "What is a Delta?" has always been associated with us, but now I hear different ones from other orgs. But it's still associated with us.

I'll be back with more.


QTE

Re: my take
 

Like "TailDog"??;) ;)

LOL
 

Exactly like the term tail dog:D :D

QTE;)

Sorors and my greek sisters I know plenty of SORORS who use pretty girls incorporated in there chants, tag or on a jacket and I'm sure we have all heard the pretty on left etc. chanted by SORORS!! I guess it all depends on where YOU are from. To each his own..........

Re: my take
 

Well, I crossed in '91 at Howard University and that chant was a ZETA chant. You can believe if it was an aka chant, my sister sorors of aka would have let us know.

I am not saying you have a hearing problem, BUT we all know chants change constantly. So if you heard it in 96 as aka chant and I heard it in 90 as Zeta chant and now you believe it has "become" strictly a Zeta chant...go figure.

I have seen other organizations use the term "Finer" "Finer Womanhood" and variations. Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. does own the term in their founding principles. I would like to believe the only reason another organization would claim it by association would be because they simply do not know the history of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc.

At Howard, DIVA was an organization. So you did not see dst calling themselves divas.

As for Pearls and Pretty... My Founders are referred to as Pearls (as are many other Founders in BGLOs) and many of my Sorors call themselves Pretty Kitties...which of course had significance to my organization's pledge program...which certainly is not new.

The phirst phamily thang is NEW. Cute...but nonetheless NEW. None of that was anywhere on Howard's campus 14 years ago. I would think since aka was founded at Howard and aphia's second chapter Beta was established on Howard's campus just shortly before aka, if this was a claim for them, the ties of "phirst phamily" would not have been lost by the time I arrived on campus in '88.

I guess the real deal is folks are going to use what ever nomenclature they want to use. No need to get bent out of shape. I liked African violets before I became a Zeta. Am I supposed to stop buying them now because, they hold significance to a sorority other than my own? Of course not...that would be silly. ( But you won't see me wearing a shirt that says "Violets are forever" either :p )

Re: Re: my take
 

orrrrrrr, maybe the organiztion(s) was/were using it PRIOR to the 1920's....
:confused:


Just a thought.

Re: Re: Re: my take
 

I would think if you are stating as a case for "ownership" the words "Finer Womanhood" being significant to aka or dst, both organizations would have somewhere in their official marketing collateral, official websites, or public history made such a claim. I have visited the official websites of aka and dst, been in the national headquarters of dst, and have family members of both aka and dst...none of those sources show or have stated or implied any marriage to the the words "Finer or Finer Womanhood".

I stand by my initial claim...as it were initially posted...the words "Finer and Finer Womanhood" are naturally associated with Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. "Finer Womanhood" is a well documented ideal associated with Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated for over 80 years.

If you can use the premise that the" the usage of ANY founder/incorporator, member's name" is inappropriate...why would you be confused by the notion of a founding principle being inappropriate? Are the principles of an organization not the common foundation upon which all are bound? Its the one thing all can say you have totally in common in one's membership. None of my Founders were film makers but I can say that in common with the Founders of my illustrious Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. I am comitted to sisterly love, scholarship, service and the ideal of Finer Womanhood.

EVERYTHING about us is not public knowledge, contrary to some beliefs. Therefore, you will NOT see it spread EVERYWHERE, not on a website, webpage, periodical, etc.

:D

There is a WHOLE lot of information that is NOT public about any of the D9...
 

The question was " Are certain phrases/words SPECIFIC to certain Greek orgs?" I would think this question would imply we are talking about "public" information rather information that is identified naturally with one's organization.

If many sororities strived to be finer women in the refined sense behind closed doors, it would not suprise me. Afterall, what "sorority minded" woman in the very generalized sense in her right mind would want her organization identified as anything less than re"fine"d?;)

I am not saying you have a hearing problem, BUT we all know chants change constantly. So if you heard it in 96 as aka chant and I heard it in 90 as Zeta chant and now you believe it has "become" strictly a Zeta chant...go figure.



No I hear pretty well actually! And no need to get your panties in a bunch, but yeah it was an aka chant and I still associate it with the aka's. Same words and everything. But I do acknowledge that the Zetas do say that chant, but that's just my opinion.:cool:


I associate the "Pretty girls wear 20 pearls" with the aka's of course. But My sorors have put a spin on that and put on jackets "Women not girls wear 9 pearls" and one Zeta here has a jacket that says "Pretty girls wear 5 pearls".

I have always heard about the "phirst fam" and my dad crossed in the 50's. So it does depend on where you are at, or "Lyle Love" as I've heard some aka's call it.

I'll try to think of some more.


QTE

Have we strayed....
 

Have we strayed away from the initial question at hand....

I posed the question in the Alpha Room when a non-greek (supposedly AKA interest) was catching heat for using the name 'pretty-girl' as her handle. Therefore, my question was simple...do you assume that certain people are your Sorors/Frat just because they use such? What words should non-greeks stay away from?

I wasn't trying to ask who does what and...who 'supposedly' has stolen this....because folks we simply don't have patents on those chants and saying. If people want to use them they can.... We could argue about this for days.... I remember Sorors and Deltas getting into about steps -- That's a Delta Step; that's an AKA step. I've heard many versions of different chants by different greeks adding their own flavor.... Same with poems and etc.

OK...back to the question at hand... This is suppose to be a fun thread now.... So play nice!:eek: I feel like I'm talking to my junior achievement kids right about now;)

I am sure your hearing is fine. Its really all love. Trust me, I'm not at all bunched up. I apologize if you were offended. My statement really was not intended to be a direct attack on you.

Greek Love,
FinerWoman 10-A-91

Well...
 

I don't get out much so if I say something that peeves you, YOU SHOULD PM ME so that I'll know to respond--please!!!

I'm still trippin' offa those that think they can wear my Sorority's colors up in one of my events when they have been told and they say they're not an interest today!!!

Then whatz up with dees "handles" or email addresses by SOME interests??? Like desiring(your orgs year)@yahoo.com--UM discretion! PLEASE!

But as far as "wondering"... Don't let me be one to start a challenge... Besides, there are WAYS you can spot somebody--even online. I guess it goes with the "schooling"...

Maybe the hard part is when a "love connection" is trying to be developed, and they emit some sort of aire about themselves, if you are unsure about another org's "process"--especially one of the opposite sex, then you can get a little debunked...

Also, there are these "stereotypes" that some folks have about BGLO's... So, if see somebody that doesn't quite "fit" into that stereotype and IS wearing XYZ 'nalia, then what? With, um, "thangs" like intake randomization in the absence of a "traditional historical context", then it can be easy to misinterpret an outsider and an insiders actions...

So, sometimes, I'm skrait up with somebody and point blank ask a brotha or a sistah. Usually, most folks who are on the outside are honest--especially if they are mature about it. But that's my 30-40-something crowd. As a young person who's, say, under 25 in an academic enviroment, I can see how there might be some confusion, errors in judgement and some hostility.

disclaimer That's just my opinion, and is unreflective of the official doctrines of my Sorors and Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.--but I skerioussly doubt it...

i associate the following with Sigma Gamma Rho:

accentuation of RHO in a word or phrase as in RHOyalty or glamRHOus or RHOck or soRHOr

anything with the word POODLE in it

or yellow tea rose

Pretty Poodle as in Prrrrrretty Pooooooodle

1922 and "22"

7 Pearls

Blue _____ or Gold ______

SIGMA

New to me!
 

Do y'all say this? How?? Is there a page I can go to to hear it? I know on some sorors' pages you can hear SKEE-WEE. I just wanna hear it, lol. :)

My Sista Greeks of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc., what about So Sweet? I don't think anyone listed that one.

Pretty Poodle
 

Pretty Poodle as in Prrrrrretty Pooooooodle

Yes, we do. We also have a Pretty Poodle pose!

I have only seen pages that EEE YIP (the official call) on them, not the pretty poodle call.

I learned it from a soror who crossed @ howard last year. i tend to just ee yip @ my sorors here in boston. but we do rhock the pretty poodle pose for photos.

Pretty Poodle is also a popular sorhor tag or screenname

Re: Pretty Poodle
 

HA!

You got that right!

Out here on the west we sometimes say Cha-Pooooooodle! (dont know of any site where folks can here it tho)

Re: New to me!
 

Yeah, i know the Zeta's from my school does SOOOOOOOO SWEET!!! I will admit at first I thought they were Delta's (when I first came there and I was just on the outisde looking in) b/c the SOOOOO sounds just like the first OOOOO- in OO-OOP!!! until you here the Sweet at the end!!! Just like EEEE-IIIKEE!!! My aunts NEVER did this call, so when I first heard that, I asked my aunt about it and she said that the reason why her chapter never did it was b/c it sounded too close to Skee-Wee! I guess different strokes for different folk!! :p

Re: Re: New to me!
 

I've never heard an EEEE-IIIIKEEE. I've seen it on some Zetas' pages, but I've never actually heard it. Is it a regional thang?

I know we all off topic, lol, sorry SOROR Happydays. ;)

EEE-I-KEEE was used before the official call and response became Z-PHI! SO Sweet!.

Some people still use EE-I-KEE! If So Sweet is done well, it won't sound like OO-OOP.

Divine Zeta

I like this thread! Thank you girl, for starting this. This is so informative to those of us who don't know any better ;) LOL! If you have traveled you will realize that a lot of these things are strictly regional.

Cha-Pooooodle!!! to you Pretty Poodle6. We say that here in DC too.

Re: What you can do....
 

You CAN create your own .wav file with your organizations call, in your/ or someone else's voice, and then just send them out to your chapters, and link it to web pages etc etc.......
Just a suggestion, to get you started:cool: :D

Hmmm...I don't associate "22" with just Sigma Gamma Rho...Delta Sigma Theta considers that a special number too...our founders...In a step I recently learned we chant "...Delta 22..."

Something in common...
 

Twenty two is special to both of you...that's precious.

I was 22 when I crossed...so its special to me too ;)

Back in the day when I was young..
 

Okay, summa dis may be illegal:eek: but I ain't trippin' too hard if y'alls not...;)

How many "party walks" or "trains" have you seen for your organization? The fact that I use 2 different names for the same thang sez that regions got differences. So my next question that I think is interesting are all the moves the same nationally, or do they differ slightly?

And after folks "cross", is that when the whole party walking or training begins or do summa y'all still do a little "sumthing-sumthing" on the downlow? I just ask, 'cuz back in the day, when I pledged the ol skool way, we had to come up with our group's own special walk/train and then when we crossed, we could skee wee and do the pinky--but nobody, never ever did a party walk/train with accoutrements even at probate!!! It was strictly done after the cross...

And those who flavoring jackets, I've seen on the west coast since the universities are trippin' with prop 209 BS, that folks list their ls or "sands" with times and whatnot... Do you all see different listings on jackets by region or is that individual preferential thing? And I'm not talking about color for the jacket, I'm talking about what's on the jacket... Just asking...

Love, peace and hair grease...

Re: Back in the day when I was young..
 

THat's true...at my undergrad we called them strolls. IN fact, I had never heard the term party walk until after I graduated. I have seen many variations of DST strolls but there are a few I have seen in multiple regiosn and chapters that seem to have become more universal. Also certain moves I have seen in a number of strolls.

I have observed that west coast chapters of all the D9 orgs tend to do more elaborate jackets with way more stuff/info on them than I see here in the east.

We call it "strutting". I think it varies from chapter to chapter, because I heard some other TX sorors call it "taking it around." Heard "strolling" too.

Motions in the struts vary from chapter to chapter too. Sometimes we'll do something kinda universal (Kick, International) out of town and mannnnn.... pinkys going up while other people rep the region while other people throw mirrors... I guess it's just individual flavor.

As far as jackets, I've never seen one with too much on it except on the internet. I'll be James Brown before I put all 18 of my LS's and our crossing times on my jacket!! But then again, my godmother has one with a huge ivy that covers the entire back and I thought it was a bit much. To each her own, I guess. Chapter, semester, line name and number is more than enough for me.

Also, I have a neo question for sorors - what song do you associate with us? I was wondering if this is regional as well. Down here it's

A Phi A - Pistol Grip Pump
DST - Brick House
Omegas - Atomic Dog
KAPsi - Flashlight
ZPB/PBS/SGRho/Iotas - ???

We have an Ivy Grip strut to "Pistol Grip Pump", but not really a recognized song. I've heard it's "Cutie Pie" by One Way, but we never play that here... I've also heard some song called "Set It Off"....anybody know? :confused: Zetas, Sigmas, SGRhos, Iotas... could you share yours, if you don't mind? :)

Songs from da South
 

Interesting Question about songs asociated with different orgs. If I may weigh in....

In the west TN area in the Mid to Late 90's, the songs go as follows:
Alpha Phi Alpha- "Flashlight" by Parliament/Funhadelic (had our own stroll and everything)
Omega Psi Phi- "Atomic Dog" by George Clinton
Kappa Alpha Psi- "Set it Off" by Organized Confusion (for those who don't know, J-Lo sampled it in her song with Big Pun and Fat Joe, as well as the song "I like Dem Gurls" samples it too)
Phi Beta Sigma-?
Iota Phi Theta-?

As for sororities, it was more like whatever popular R&B song was out at the time. But when I was in school at Morehouse, the Zetas used "Don't Ride the White Horse" alot at parties.


This also varies from region to region, because when I came to grad school in Missouri, the Kappas use "Freaks of the Industry" by Digital underground up here, and some Alphas in the Midwest use "More Bounce to the Ounce" by Zapp or "You Got's ta Chill" by EPMD. To each his Own. I'm trying to bring back the old school by making up a stroll to"Jungle Boogie" by Kool and the Gang or "Jungle Love" by Morris Day and the Time!!!:D
Just My '06 sense worth
BlackWatch!!!

STROLLS, PARTY WALK, TRAINS

I know down here in the south we say all of the above, the sororities stroll/party walk/hop, and the bruhs of A PHI A train, the Kappas also stroll, the QUES hop, the songs I know are only two, but I thought SET IT OFF the original was like our National Stroll Song "ALLLPHA KAPPPA ALLLPHA", I know most sorors jump up when they hear it and most of our strolls are similar with slight variations here and there, and Atomic Dog for the Ques, I know songs with certain flavor/beats the bruhs of A PHI A train too. We also have several strolls/trains that we do as the "Phirst Pham" and they are really cool.

After we were initiated my LS and I decided together, as we were leaving not to SKEE WEE, throw up a pinky, ivy or wear nelia' until after we crossed (even though we could, it was our decision to wait until after the coming out show as to keep everyone on campus in the dark a little longer.) We did our chapters stroll onto our plot after the show and it was done to, SET IT OFF!!!!!! I love my A K A...

As for jackets my LS and I have a jacket alike and then some went out and also got individuals, as well as the one some of us were given after we crossed, but overall I have not come across a line jacket with all that stuff on it, that would be too dayum much that needs to go on a certicate or paddle or something, but not ur own line jacket. Most chapters/sorors go for originality (sp), but not overboard. I must say that I have seen some with Neon Pink and Green and frankly I needed some shades for those because everybody could see u coming.

AlMighty14
SPR 01, SSU
Gamma Upsilon
Survivors


Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
:p :p

This is really getting interesting. I've always wanted to know how my Soror's in other regions do things. Down here in the South Atlantic... "Set it Off" is considered "our" song. Most chapters have their own version of the stroll (but with the same basic steps, pretty much...always starting with the "kick out") to this song but there is an original stroll to this song as well. As for songs associated with the rest of the Divine 9 (I love that number :p ), it's like this:

Alpha's : "Mic checka"
Sigma's : "Computer Games" (if you listen really hard to "i'm real" by j. lo...not the version with ja rule...you can hear it)
Que's : Atomic Dog
Kappa's: "Candy" by Cameo (it's usually just the instrumental thought)

Delta's: "To Be Real"
SGRho's : "That's Right" (not sure who it's by)
Zeta's: Not really sure (sorry)

At my probate show, we didn't throw pinkies, do the ivy stance, skee wee, or anything until all 12 of us were revealed.

Jackets: I've seen jackets that have all LS's listed, the time, an ivy vine, pearl, shield, line #...and sometimes all on the same jacket. The only colors I've seen used are white, black, khaki, satin pink, green, and silver.

I had never even heard the original "Set It Off" until very recently. I think I know the stroll you're talking about, and we do it to "Scarred" by Luke. Anytime you hear the beginning of that song, people scatter cause you know AKAs are about to come through. People are always amazed at how fast it is. :) I really didn't consider that our song though, because even though it's our signature strut, most orgs. have old school songs. Maybe it's a Texas thang. :confused:

This stuff is funny.
I've never seen "silver" used. I have seen where times have been posted on jackets.

I know when we crossed in 91, "our" song was "Aint No Future in You Frontin" MC Breed...remember that? We did our chapter stroll/strut to that. Like Soror Monet said, we had our own strut/stroll that we made up. When we went to conferences or other sorors visited or sorors visited others, we learned theirs and incorporated a few steps from that, plus, we used struts/strolls our big sisters taught us. When I visited my initating chapter in the fall and met the neos, they didn't use the same struts/strolls that we did. A whole new crew, if you will.

I thought that basically, whatever song was "hott" was what determined what strut/stroll one would do.

I don't know if we had a particular song that we did the National Stroll/strut to, I can't remember. I think that our only "song" was the MC Breed song. Folks would just get up whenever and lead a stroll/strut and folks would "get in where they fit in". LOL


So, not only do our differences vary by regions or states, I think it's safe to say that we have differences within our own states as well.

OK, I'm gettin' dated here...
 

Soror AKA2D '91!!! ;)

Weeeee was sum sanging ivies!!! ;):D

We had to come up with our own stuff, too!!! And our stuff was like whoa!!! Too many folks all over the place were blown by my line's divas... Lemme just say this though: God :) on my line...

Did any of y'all have I guess "hand me down steps" from the previous? Or did you have your standard chapter's song?

We didn't probate like other campuses. It was more like our "crossing" was a nice party right have "signatures" were made--if you will... So we respectfully came out in our "Sunday's best" with skerioussss insignia...

Boy do times change!!!

Disclaimers Just showin' love ta y'all... We are always be evaluated to our behavior... So if we want all others to use discretion, we need to be considerate... If anyone want to know how, I got some "statements" for you... And if you undertand this, then you know what I mean and it is filled with the utmost of brotherly and sisterly love

411
 

Down in Cali we call it "Training". Like "Set out a train soror!". We don't call it strolling. Only the Ques call it "setting a hop out".

The Songs that come to mind right now are:

Deltas "One more Chance" by Biggie(the remix with Faith and dem) When this song comes on, we have a train that we call "attitude" that we do.

"Southern Hospitality" by Ludacris We have a "throw them bows" train in Cali and every time this song comes on, all chapters get up to do it. This just became the norm a few years ago.

Ques: Atomic Dogg
Alphas: Atomic Dogg(I'll explain this in a minute)

Kappas: Montell's "This is how we do it"

Sigmas: Not really sure.

Zetas: Not really sure.

Aka's: Not really sure.

Rhos: Not really sure(boy I'm a big help! lol!)

Now on our campus, the Alphas are ALL football players or some sort of athlete. And they made Atomic dogg the chapter song JUST to make the Ques mad. But they feel like they are "big and bad" so they don't care. Whenever the song comes on, the Ques go crazy and so do the Alphas. Even Alphas from other places mouths hang open when they do that. But I can say that our Alphas don't give a damn and will clown in a MINUTE. So the Ques and Alphas always are into it over that. The Alphas basically feel that nobody can claim a song and they like that song, so the Ques just have to deal. You should see our stepshow every year when that song comes on, it's a hot mess!:eek:


The Delta's have a train that many call the "international" train. It is usually the first train you learn when you cross here. From the other places I've gone, it doesn't vary much.


QTE