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Greek Rivalry
I don't know anything about the schools that you people out there go to (wether they are big/small or really into Greek Life/not into Greek Life)but I was wondering if the rivalry (if any) between Frats and Sororities on other campuses were bad? I attend a school with a smaller Greek system (3 sororities NPC; 5 fraternities IFC). Outside of school based competitions (like Greek Week, Homecoming, ect) is there any hard core rivalries between chapters?
-Kelly Delta Gamma |
Fortunately at my school we don't have any of these "hard core rivalries". Unfortunately for some chapters, rivalry is something of a 'flavor of the week' concept. In other words, whoever gives us an excuse not to like them will be our current worst enemy.
My chapter is fortunate enough to be in everyone's good graces as far as I know though :D LHT MT 5 University of Central OK |
On my campus their we're a couple of rivalries. I wouldnt necessarily say they are hard core, cuz no one goes instigating stuff.
Beta and ADPhi Beta and Chi Psi SAE and FIJI (big fight between them my soph. Had 6 police cars outside SAE's house) Theta Chi and Theta Xi Theta and Kappa AGD and AXO (back in the day..mid 90's) AGD and Gamma Phi (current) PIKE and EVERY fraternity Im sure there might be more too. |
At my campus, at least back when I was there, the only serious rivalry was Fiji and ZBT. Their houses were right next door, and if they weren't pissing each other off, the Sigma Chis, who lived across the street, were instigating something (TP the Fijis and blame the Zebes!).
The other rivalries were very casual or friendly - Phi Psi and Phi Kap because people mixed up their names, for example. |
The big rivalries among sororities on my campus when I was there were between Delta Zeta, Chi Omega and Delta Delta Delta. The DZ/Chi-O rivalry was good natured; fighting for a lot of the same pledges or to win Greek Week events, etc. The DZ/DDD rivalry wasn't so friendly, most of the girls in the two houses couldn't stand one another and our Greek Week rivalry (especially for Greek Sing) was always pushed up a notch when we were competing with them. I thought they were really cool, though (I got invited to prefs there) and am still friends with some of them years later.
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I go to a large school with a large greek system...there aren't really any stand out rivalries between houses that I know of, but our Greek System as a whole is very competitive. None of the fraternities really like each other and all the sororities can be very catty toward each other. It sucks - you never hear of houses supporting each other or one house try to help make another better. Unfortunate, really.
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Elon has a pretty healthy greek rivalry. Most of the time its over new members, greek week, and homecoming events. The sororities get along ok. ZTA, Tri-Sigma, and Phi Mu compete alot. While AZD, AOTT, and Sigma Kappa watch and laugh together. The worse rivalries are definetly the frats! Sigma Chi and Lambda Chi get in fights over things that happened like 10 years ago!
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I think the rivalries have actually died down since I joined three years ago. However, Greek Week has a way of reminding people and most people get OVERLY competetive!
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My school is extremely small and rivalries are FIERCE. We rival one other sorority, which shall remain nameless, and basically it's a war of words. The same thing is going on with two other fraternities right now, and it is even worse I think because it gets physical. Sadly, this fraternity rivalry has split my sorority in two over who supports who. Their rivalry has hurt OUR unity. THe people I go to school with have been extremely immature this year (worse than high school kids) and it has been a factor in why I'm transferring.:mad:
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When we were local sororities, the rivalries were really bad. Now that we're national, people are really trying to help each other out but sometimes old habits die hard.
Jen Gardner Kappa Delta Eta Gamma Chapter, John Carroll University |
Rivs suck! LXA and SPE had knock downs and SX stole the Original Composit!
The first: the police were there many times since we are across the street on the main drag! The Second: I e-m both teh Chapter and the International stating I wanted the Composite Back! What it boils down to, that this Childish bull shit almost cost ALL of the Fraternitys to be kicked off of Campus as IS A PENCILE NECK ADM> they are not going to put up with it! Listen and Learn! We are to be the Cream of the Crop until we fertilize the Crop and then it hits the fan! Great to have rivalrys but dont take to far! We get enuff bad press as is! No matter How Much Good We Do, They Dont Remember That! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/cry.gif |
I know at my Hunny's school , his fraternity didn't get along with the Kappa Sigs-I remember once, during the summer, when we were all hanging out at the house, the Kappa Sigs came over, with drunk hs kids, and started trashing the chapter room and fighting with the guys. The cops came, rounded up the Kappa Sigs-and their drunk, underage, hs kids-and left. :rolleyes:
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At my old school, the KD's did not like us for some reason.....every formal rush they try to bring up rush infractions on us......I still dont get the rivialy (SP BAD!) or where its origin was, but I think its mostly because we are the top 2 sororities on campus......Theta Chi and Lambda Chi Alpha Delta Sigma Phi and Theta Chi and Delta Sigma Phi and the basketball team:rolleyes:
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We have a different rival every week it seems. We did have a big bruhah with one of the locals, and their sisters came over, broke in our house, stole our founders composite and threw dog poop on the floor of our kitchen. So, we scooped up the poop, threw it in their living room and took our composite back. Unfortunately, it's apparently fun to steal letters off each other's houses. I can't tell you the number of times we were only Phi E or Delta Phi. One time DKE stole our Delta, so we went to their house, took their Delta off their house, and hung it in place of ours. Isn't it funny that ours showed up 2 days later, hanging on the house where their Delta was :)
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For grades- it was always Delta Gamma- for the girls during rush- AOPi.
It was not a big deal (the rivalry) - those were the two that we just were always competing with. |
On my campus it is a huge rivalry between sororities and fraternities! Fraternities are the worst. The Phi Delts and The Phi Sigs fight all the time... just last weekend they got in a huge fight and ended up breaking a lot of windows and things at some bar. I really think that these boys are setting bad examples. They're supposed to kinda be role models on campus. Yet they're the ones getting into all the trouble. Dont get me wrong, Im not bashing on these boys. Some of them are my good friends! But I think they need to control what they do out in public.
On the other hand, sororities arent as bad. The biggest rivalry is between us (ASA) and the Sigmas. We don't get along at all. and we always seem to compete at everything. |
We had some pretty serious rivalries, but mostly between fraternities. The sororities had rivalries, too, but we never resorted to fist fights or broken beer bottles. ;) Pi Phi was a big chapter and they won a lot of things, Alpha Gam, too. We did manage to win HOMECOMING two years ago, though!
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Well, Boys and Girls, It is time for the Moronic asswholes who are in Greek Organiztions to realize, that we are Minoritys on each Campus and to
Collectivally Pull Their Heads out! :( Do they think it is smart to do this to show how BIG THEY are? This is S^%#T that belongs in High School, Not On College Campuses! There Is enuff Problems between the School Administartion and the City Fathers and US!:mad: I do not want to say I am a LXA from PSU but there is NO Chapter There any longer! Self Importance is UNDERWHELMING! :mad: We have been having this battle with the SPE who are across the street and the ADM. called them together and said NO MORE! If So, You Are Gone!:eek: Wow, I will show you I am a member of xyz Org so I will kick your ass! DA! I wish that everyone of these moronic dick wads that started something like this were kicked out of the respective Orgs and out of School, this would stop! I would much rather be a member there than on the outside looking in! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/cry.gif The Earp Man Thought for the Day! Thank You and Have a Very Nice Day! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxwave.gif |
Kelly
I'm afraid to say we do have some tension between our fraternaties... the tension between our soroities has finally filtered out. I aswell am from a smaller greek life school 2 sororities, and 3 frats. And they don't get along outside of the greek business side of things. I don't know how we can get this stopped. It hurts us all, and i don't think that they see that. :( |
I could not agree more -- the greek system has enough outside forces working against it, we don't need any inside help!
For example... We've had a lot of trouble on our campus with a certain fraternity, who has been raiding all of the sororites, taking composites, ect. That is bad enough, but over the weekend they broke into the chapter house and stole our CHARTER! When I came to the house on Sunday for my advisor's meeting with the executive members, I walked into the library and realized that it was gone. I could have cried. Obviously that is something which is absolutely irreplaceable. Maybe I'm just getting too old to see the "fun prank" in this, but I thought it was totally disrespectful and disgusting to take something that is so precious to any chapter. Needless to say, when (I'm still hopeful) we get it back, I will personally make sure that we figure out a way to keep it under lock and key! |
Oh my god, I can't believe they took your CHARTER!!!:eek: :eek:
Of all the disrespectful things to do! I can't even imagine that, although I bet it would happen here if certain groups knew where their rivals' charters were. Wow. Shame on them! |
I still can't believe it either...I heard from our president yesterday and our greek advisor, and no one is owning up to it so far, and the charter is still missing. However, we do have an all-Greek advisors meeting on Monday, and we WILL be talking about this...hopefully the fraternity advisors will lean on their chapters and we'll get some answers.
Did I mention that one of our FOUNDER'S daughter's was in our charter class and her name is on the charter???? |
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That totally sucks that Greeks are that rude to eachother on other campuses. I'm really sorry for that chapter that got their CHARTER stolen as a stupid prank!! I didn't realize that it got that bad in other places. :( People should really teach IFC and Panhellenic spirit to people going through rush. Maybe that would help?!
-Kelly |
Do you mean one of our 12 founders? Those founders? Which one?
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Hey Kelly...
Kelly, Im an AXO at UNF and I have to say that at UNF since we have such a small greek system sometimes competition gets a little hot, but in the end we all get along with one another, at least thats how I see it! Hey anyways I just wanted to wish you congrats on Derby Days, you DG's are awesome! :D
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In answer to your question, Silverblue -- Yup, one of the original twelve -- Inez Smith Soule. Her daughter was a charter member, and Inez herself was a charter member of the local alumnae club (Tacoma, now named the Inez Smith Soule Alumnae Club).
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Whoa .... I think I'd lead a commando-style raid on that fraternity house until I found it. That's absolutely outrageous. Maybe there's a way you can get the campus police involved. They had to break into the house to get it, right? A little official pressure might be enough to make the charter suddenly reappear.
But how absolutely neat that Inez Smith Soule's daughter was a charter member of your chapter, and that the local alum club is named for Inez herself. |
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We filed a police report and just waited until about a month ago when one of our guys heard 'through the grapevine' that these guys had the plaques at someone's apartment. A police officer showed up at their door and threatened to file charges unless they were returned in 24 hours. We got our stuff back :D This was of course before we got our charter (last weekend!). To lose that little piece of paper would be outright infuriating. I highly recommend you press charges if you find the folks that are guilty of this. Remember, it's not you who's bringing their house down, they're bringing it down on their own. LHT Kevin MT 5 |
At UCF, I found that there were 'healthy' rivalries between the sororities. The Greek System here is awesome and we usually back each other up. Of course there would be Homecoming and Greek Weeks where we'd compete against each other. But it's all in fun!! :)
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Re: Hey Kelly...
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I think that when it comes to our school the rivalry between the three sororities can be heavy (ie: football, Derby Days ;) ) just because everyone knows eachother. But I also think that for that fact it makes it harder to stereotype a sorority based on one or two people. That's what I like about being in a smaller greek system; it is much more personal. Thanks for the congrats! Go DG and Go AXO!! -Kelly |
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i'm just gonna have to say that there is some type of rivarly here at my school..im' not saying that there is lots of hate but unfortunately there is some major tension amongst the fraternities and sororities...i'm just hoping that things get better and that we all can just freaking suck it up!!!!!!!! and be nice to eat other without being all 2-FACED....but whatever i guess that's how it is.....hope it gets better someday...= )
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I would say that my school has a bunch of rivalries. B/W fraternities and sororities and towards one another. Some good, some not so good.
Not so much a Greek Unity kind of campus. They are working at it, but when it comes down to it there is a little harsh feelings between groups. Mostly rumors and such. I have to say that Chi O is a strong group that reaches out and that says a lot about them! I think other groups have a lot of internal issues and really focus on their chapter and not so much others. It will change, it will just take time. I think a lot of tension is over the NPC resolution. Otherwise, I think healthy rivalry is a good thing! |
When I went to school, there were 4 sororities (DZ, ASA, Phi Mu, Phi Sig) And there were like 14 fraternities. Between the sororities, there was always this tension, like who was freinds with which fraternity, who were the "pretty" girls, who were the "cool" girls, all that nonsense.
The rivalries between some of the fraternities was pretty bad too. Some of them got along, but when they didn't, there was fighting, vandalism, and the like involved, which eventually aided some houses in getting yanked off campus:( Now, the same 4 sororities are there, but there are only 8 or 9 fraternities, half of which are new to campus in the last 3 or 4 years. There are still some tensions, but I noticed that as more houses were made to leave, people started to realize that they needed to work together and be tolerant in order to preserve Greek life.:cool: |
The biggest rivalries at my school are over intramural sports, hands down. We're over half-way through softball season right now, actually only one game away from the playoffs. Our last game is against ADPi, our biggest rivals. The other night at our game against Tri Delt, some of the ADPis came to "scout" and were even writing down notes, and were trying to get our coaches to give them helpful hints! We're last years IM champs, and take our sports very seriously, but that's a little ridiculous...I guess we'll have to show them on Tuesday! Our rivalries are good-natured though, we don't have a habit of pranks and/or kleptomania!
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I'm proud to say that at the University of Hawaii, we haven't really experienced any rivalries. Our greek system is very very small, but from the beginning everyone has been very supportive for one another.
For national/international greeks back in the day, there were 3 fraternities (Betas, SigEps, and TKEs) and 1 sorority (us... the Alpha Gams.) We did lots together... sometimes in pairs (TKE/AGD mixer or SPE/AGD formal)... but most of the time all together (all greek tailgate, all greek picnic, etc.) It was really nice. Sadly, the very very small greek system has become even smaller with the loss of the Betas and SigEps because they were unable to keep their membership up. However, the Alpha Gams have decided to help bring the "boys" back. The alums are getting in touch with the Beta and SigEp alums in town to help them reorganize, and the collegians are trying to get the TKEs together, so we can have an improved greek presents during recruitment this fall. See? One happy family! Friendly competition can be nice... but support and a united effort are much nicer :) Aloha, Mai Ly |
some of our rivalries here aren't too friendly. Most are based on the fact that other organisations exist. :rolleyes: There is a new fraternity coming on campous, and I think its needed. Yeah we just got on as a new chapter, and we need newer orgs that do things the way the were suposed to be. ONly 6% total here is greek, it is pathetic. Mostly because of drunken fraternity fights. But we are new because thats not we want and I guess the newer guys (Sigma Pi) are colonizing because it not what they want either. I'm glad we're the first of the new wave, not the last of the old.
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The fraternities on my campus have friendly rivalries. The nasty rivalry is usually between whatever fraternity is having a party that night and the football team. They usually fight over breeding rights.
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In general, at least with the sororities here, there aren't any big rivalries. I have many aqquantainces who are in other sororities, and my roommate is in another sorority as well (although we don't always get along, but that has nothing to do with sorority stuff). My big told me though that one year we had a rivalry with DZ, because my big's ex-best friend was a DZ and tried to say she had committed a rush infraction which was entirely not true. As far as sports go, we have a rivalry with ADII because they seem to win most of the intramural games. We (ZTA) get really competitive with everyone during fraternity days so we can win the spirit awards (which we usually do). There are other minor things, but nothing that any whole chapter feels strongly about.
In the fraternities, KA & SAE here (to put it in better words) seem to passionately dislike all the other fraternities. Sigma Chi & Beta have a rivalry mainly b/c their houses are right next to one another and they are aways competing to have the best parties. Other than that, who knows? I say friendly rivalries (i.e. sports, and sponsored competitions) are good, but other than that it can get messy if people let it go too far. |
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