Grow up, LOSER!!!
 

One of my sisters got a PM from some FRICKIN' LOSER named "6uldv8" that said: Have you tried anal?

In the past month or so, many of the ladies have experienced difficulties from some of you assholes. Miami/kevin was one and this is another. There have been more. Some of of us have had attempts to try to contact us away from this forum.

If you guys want the ladies to stay here, then you'd better find a way to straighten this situation out. I know anybody can join as an imposter or can come back with another nic if banned. It doesn't matter, if I get harrassed or feel threatened then I'm outta here and I suspect other ladies may follow suit if they are fooled with also.

Additionally, some of the posts have been bordering on "weird" or they are aimed at shocking or provoking others. Again, while we are not prudes and can have fun, etc. You need to show some respect and restraint.

If you cant control your hormones take them to a porn site.

Well I really don’t have anything to add to this topic since I never randomly PM people but has anyone else recieved alerts saying that you have recieved a PM only to find your folder empty?

/edit: For grammatical continuity

Since this feature has been recently added, it if my belief that the system picked up your old PM's as being "new" hence you received a msg.

If you've been around for months, how come you only have one post??

I don't get it. Oh well!

Killarney Rose: Maybe the lady wasnt as street savy as you and didnt know what 6ulvd8 means. Maybe SHE was a lady. You seemed more interested in dissing her than the jerk who harassed her. Also, if I used the word a$$hole as you put it, its because I was angry. Again, you are more concerned with dissing me then addressing the situation. I find that similar to saying that the girl who claimed she was date-raped asked for it. Very sensative of you.

Optimist Prime - What's the difference if I' left one post or a 100, that doesnt detract from what happened.

Do you people deny the harassing thats been going on lately? Why didn't one of you consider that maybe I was harassed by one of you and thats why I changed my ID for this message.

Ok, do I smell funny or something? I've been on this site for donkey years and I've never gotten a slimy PM. Don't you wuv me? (sniff, tear)

I don't know how you propose "straightening the situation out" - all I can say is, if you receive a pm that offends you, email John or the moderator of the forum and let them know. And if you see a thread with a title that offends you, DON'T READ IT. Again, email John or the moderators and let them know. I don't think we can have a virtual stoning in the town square for perverts.

Well sometimes you have just have to ask yourself just WHAT the girl was thinking going back to the Boy's motel room at 3am with a bottle of alcohol . .. HBO isn't that good. Ahh she probbaly just wanted to chat and stuff. Sorry my humour is getting away from me.

And trust me KilarneyRose didn't mean anything like that! She wouldn't, she is way nicer, classier, and PC than that.

As far as the anal reference: You shouldn't leave your friend in ignorance, otherwise she wouldn't know that she might need to be upset, in which case this thread wouldn't be taking place.

So anal, as you know and in this case, generally refers to the posterior region of a human. Further, in this context, anal probably meant something sexual, like oral-anal or straight penetration or some such.

Another way to handle this may have been, or at least concurrently with this post, to copy the PM to the admin or a moderator with a complaint.

In fact doing that is still a goo idea because we have only your rather . . . emotional word to go on at this point, with no other complaints.

Sincerely,

James

Re: the weird absent PMs... I get notices all the time that I have new PMs, but they're not there... and all my folders are empty. WTF?

I find statements like this very insensitive of you. There is nothing equal to rape or saying that a victim/survivor of rape asked for it.

If you have a suggestion or a constructive criticism then give it. But your post really sounds like whining more than anything.

All you did was complain. Please tell us what you want the moderators to do, or do what the people posting have suggested it, which is to report it.

Exactly couldn't have said it better myself.

Hurlygurly,

You just broke Greek Chat's rule #303! Your first post must be POSITIVE POSITIVE POSITIVE, have PERFECT grammar and spelling, have nothing about
switching GLO's, NEVER GET SASSY WITH THE MODERATORS, and have nothing to do with hazing!

Break rule #303 and you'll be accused of being "Kristen", earn a bad reputation, have your REAL identity revealed, and recieve wonderful threats! How do you like those apples?

Have a nice night. :)

If that is the case, this whole board may get shut down. :rolleyes:

Just about everyone on GC has violated at least one of the board rules. My favorite one is about not posting any material that is invasive of a person's privacy (hint: one's name and school).

Hurlygurly,

I have to say that I agree with what my sister KillarneyRose posted. If you have a serious complaint about someone you believe to be affiliated with GreekChat, please contact a moderator directly or the board administrator, John Hammell. We'll be happy to look into your complaint, and will do what we can to help clear up the problem.

Sincerely,
dzrose93

I just wanted to point out that the person who posted was POSTING on behalf of a SISTER who recieved the message. Perhaps if one of our own friends received such a message we too would be pissed enough to write about it (I know I can go on random tants about things that tick me off).

At anyrate I think the person posting is simply trying to bring something to people's attentiong: something that has been overlooked. And as a COMMUNITY we should all understand what is going on and realize that some people are being offended by actions, words or posts.

Sometimes writing John a letter doesn't solve problems. No offense John, gotta love all ya do! You're Superman!
But if, as a community, we are aware of this problem or problems, we can WORK TOGETHER to make sure it doesn't happen. Kinda like that stupid story Hilary Clinton used once!

HM!!!!!!
Hootie:rolleyes:

Ok first off, a random bum walking down the street could come up to you and ask the same question. Deal with it, some people are wierdo's this is a community like any other all be-it online. Next why should I have to solve the problem of some idiot thinking by simply asking the question you were gonna get off and respond. And finally, the 1 or 100 post is you act like you were targeted. You have never posted before just read so it was obviously random. I dont doubt your a lady, but just now that the guys on here that arent asshole shouldnt have this heaped on them! And Bridget or whatever your name is, why dont you leave? Just curious?

SAEguyAnd Bridget or whatever your name is, why dont you leave? Just curious?

Nice touch of humor!

WOW.

1. If you don't like getting "weird Msgs" from ppl on the internet, or this so-called "cyberspace" where millions and millions of ppl have accest to it, do these few steps. Turn off your monitor, then turn off the computer. Turn off your keyboard, scanner, webcam, and printer, or anything else related. Continue by unplugging your power source from the wall, and finally chuck the thing out the window because you shouldn't be using it if you don't understand the the internet is a haven for "weirdos."

On that note, how do you know that the msg you received was from a regular on gc? And how does that msg from that one person, was even a guy? I don't think calling all the guys on gc "assholes" is the way to go about it. Seeing as that was your first post, i could have a name or two for you, but I don't know you, and I'll let you continue to post with ignorance.

You seem somewhat insecure by even trying to relate something like this to a "a girl asking to be date-raped." 1. The conditions aren't there. 2. You can't rape someone over the internet, unless you meet up with one of these "weirdos." 3. You might be somewhat insecure to relate these two things. 4. Like I said before, do the whole turning your computer off, that's the only true way to get rid of the "weirdos."
Now, how about you go and turn down your bed and take a nap!

All I know is that this isn't the first time I've heard something like this from a GC'er. However, most people will go directly to John or a trusted confidante and ask what to do. Maybe HurlyGurly didn't know the process. ??? And I can understand why she would be angry if a friend/sister was upset....I know I would be!

I've heard from random women on this board about unsettling IM's they've received as a result of posting their AIM ID on their profile and rude PM's as well (oh, and I'm not even counting the KEVIN/Miami situation). Those of you who haven't received an upsetting email - count your lucky stars - but try not to turn your nose up and make judgements on those who have had a bad experience.

Please note that I throughly agree that if someone is repeatedly bugging you, you should block them! However, that doesn't alleviate the problem of having to read the first upsetting IM, PM, etc.

Oh, and SAE guy - The likelyhood of some random bum off the street asking me if I do anal is virtually non-existent. The internet allows for perceived anonymity, therefore the number of psycho freaks that like to contact women and be creepy is incredibly high.

And regarding spelling, I don't mean to be bitchy, but James and Killarney Rose both had misspellings in their posts, so does this mean that I should question their credibility?? :rolleyes: Let's try to be reasonable here. If someone can't spell more than 75% of their post, then yes...we have a problem here but other than that....

and like i said before, a pm or im from a random guy like that doesn't represent every guy or "asshole" on gc. I turn my judgements on ppl that make ignorant comments like that. That's how stereotypes and prejudice form. LOL, When one does it, they all do it?!? Now, I know i can be a D#(k at times on gc, but to be honest, I do it all in fun, but in the same sense, i don't sit there iming random girls from gc asking them if they do anal?!?! I talk to a select few ppl on gc, and I like it like that. Not everyone on gc is a weirdo, adn let's not forget that there are many ppl that just visit the boards as guests, obtaining info is fairly easy.

Damasa - I don't think I've ever said anything to imply that I think every guy on GC is a jerk/freak/A*hole. If I thought every guy on this board was a psycho, I can guarantee that I wouldn't be here - that's pretty clear. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone has ever said that all GC guys are creeps! In fact, I've met some very cool people on this board - both men and women. The reason I posted was to say that I don't think the creepy messages are as seldom an occurrence as some people here seem to think. It's like - just because it's never happened to them, they don't believe what others are saying, and I think that's pretty crappy. That's the same problem I had with a lot of people when the Kevin thing was happening. It was unbelievable. I can say, with few exceptions, that the men who are the problems are NOT the GC regulars that we all know. From what I know, it's usually someone random who comes to this site, gets information, and then IM's people. I definitely think people should be more careful with their information - posting pictures, schools, emails, chapter names, etc. - unfortunately if that info gets in the wrong hands, bad bad things can happen. Just my 2 cents...

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BACK OFF~ :mad:
SO WHAT IF THIS PERSON MADE A PSUEDO NAME TO DIVULDGE SOME HARSH FEELINGS HE OR SHE HAS ABOUT A PM? WOULD ANY OF YOUR ATTITUDES BE DIFFERENT IF IT WERE, FOR EXAMPLE, ME WHO HAD POSTED AND WAS VERY UPSET? I CONSIDER MYSELF A FAIRLY REASONABLE GIRL BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE HAD SAID SOMETHING RUDE LIKE THAT TO ME AND I POSTED IT? WOULD YOU ALL BE JUMPING DOWN MY THOAT?

I THINK INSTEAD OF WORRYING OURSELVES ABOUT THE IDENTITY OF POSTERS AND HOW MANY POSTS AND WHAT WORDS THEY USE AND WHO THEY CALL NAMES...WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE REAL ISSUE.

I'M NOT SINGLING ANYONE OUT ON HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TO BLAME FOR (AS BRIDGET SAID) AUTOMATICALLY THROWING ACCUSATIONS AT PEOPLE OF WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEIR MOTIVES ARE.

I SUPPOSE WE HAVE A FEW RESIDENT PSYCHOS TO BLAME FOR OUR ATTITUDES, BUT I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE ALL TAKEN OUR INSULTS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT AND GOTTEN PAST IT.

SO INSTEAD OF BEING SO PISSED BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID "THE MEN OF GC" PERHAPS WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT YES, THIS IS CYBERWORLD, AND NO, YOU CANNOT BE TOO SURE OF WHO IS A GOOD OR BAD PERSON.

HELL, I'VE BEEN CATEGORIZED BY A FEW RESIDENT PSYCHOS AS A HATER AND OCCULT MEMBER AND YOU DON'T SEE ME BITCHING ABOUT IT...INSTEAD I CONFRONT THE TOPIC INSTEAD OF TAKING SUCH HIGH OFFENSE!

HOOTIE

I honestly was not offended by a single word of HurlyGurly. What
did she say or what word did she use that hasn't been posted on this board before? Somehow, I believe she is using a different ID or posting for someone we all may know. She seems just sick and tired of it. Rather than sign a name (that COULD have a sorority symbol attatched) she chose anonymity. On the OTHER hand, Damasa made a a LOT of sense in his first post.
BUT-It's just one of those things that you can't know how it feels until it happens to you.

There are nuts ALL over the place-there are people who have no idea of propriety. All you can do is make sure you have protected you identity(as best you can) and DO NOT RESPOND!

I for one would like to know how secure GC really is and who(if ANYONE) has our information. For some reason, a lot of people feel more secure thinking no human has access to their info. I'm more or less in that crowd.

I cannot believe the flaming that has started over this!!!!! I am the person that received the unsolicited, obnoxious PM asking if I have ever tried anal!!!!!!!!!!! I may have been honest and frank in some of the sexual discussions we have had on here (as have a lot of others) but I don't think that gives anyone a right to take liberties with me. I can also tell you all that the person who started this thread is a highly respectable, long-time GCer who has gotten a new id due to just this kind of thing.

We can all be open and honest in our group discussions and still have boundaries. Maybe we women need to all state plainly what our boundaries are. I'll start-----hey guys.....I have no problem talking about things in the forums....but I'm not interested in one-on-one chats and I certainly don't need rude PMs from people I don't know asking me personal questions.

What I don't get is all the hostility aimed at the people who complain about the harrassers....if anyone is feeling insulted that they aren't receiving this kind of attention....DON'T. Be glad!!!!!Just don't think that just because it isn't happening to you that it isn't happening to someone else. I myself have recieved undesirable contacts from 4 different people (well as far as I know it is 4 different people) and I am not the only one. So please, be tolerant.

By the way, Tracy, I have to say I am surprised at you and a little disappointed. Your post didn't even sound like you. I think you know that of all people on here I am pretty "savvy"......and to be honest until you pointed it out I had NO clue what the name meant. Didn't even think about it. I didn't realize we had to try and decode names before reading pm's to determine if they are freaks or not. NOW it makes sense.....6uldv8 equals sexualdeviant. How nice.

Telling the admins is all well and good but there is only so much they can do. How many people have we had banned who just keep coming back under other names????

ok, i didnt want to reply to this - but what is a 6ulvd8? ive tried sounding it out but im clueless.

:)

I must add....I am surprised that the guys aren't getting a lottle more po'd over the freakers too. Sticking up for your own is one thing but do you guys realize that the jerks are spoiling things for all of you? It's going to get to the point where some of us don't trust any of you because we just don't know who is ok and who isn't. Perhaps if you guys stuck up for your female friends a little more instead of just suggesting that if we don't like it we get out, it would help the situation instead of making it worse.

Erika, I was being highly sarcastic about never getting a nasty PM - believe me if I want to see gross emails all I have to do is ask my friend to copy me in on some of the ones her ex has sent her. Ewww, I have to take a bath just thinking about it.

As to Hurlygurly, whoever she is, old new or what the heck ever, the thing that I found not cool was her using phraseology like implying that "the guys" of the board need to do something about over-the-top PM's. That is male-female polarizing, and it is disgusting. So, I guess James, damasa, KABM, are all going to go out with torches and bloodhounds looking for 6uldv8?? (Actually, that might be pretty cool.) We don't need a battle of the sexes on here, especially with the "I am an empowered woman" thinking one minute, and "boo hoo guys, please help me" the next. Help yourself - don't look to the guys to do it. It is not an issue of guys sticking up for guys - it's an issue of the guys really not being able to do a damned thing about it, unless it is the guy down the hall posting and they can break his hands.

Once again, if there is a problem with any user on this board, REPORT IT TO A MODERATOR. Erika, I'm sorry if you were upset, but I don't know what else to tell you to do.

Sorry Erika. But what can we do? If we threaten someone online then we are in the same trouble posibly (legal wise) as the people that threatened/offeneded you.

I've always thought the Chi Omega Symphony was beautful (not more than the DZ Creed though ;)) and I've taken these words from it:

~to speak kindly, to act sincerely, to choose thoughtfully that course which occasion and conscience demand; to be womanly always; to be discouraged never~

the next time anyone, regardless of affiliation or gender, gets a PM or email they find evasive or threatening or just plain disgusting - I urge you to please make your first action a report to a moderator you trust and to John. Women: take a cue from the Chi Omega Sympany and do not resort to name calling and rage - be womanly - don't let someone in cyberspace get to you, theyre not worth it and they are pathetic.

I think the guys have said nothing because the answer you want is given. Of course most guys on here do not support what that guy did or say. I am sorry it happened. If you want me to write John an email asking him to ban that name and to see if the ip matches anyone else I will be glad to do it. There is nothing else us guys can do to stop the perverts out there. If all you are looking for is support you have it. Trust us most us guys have real lives and wouldn't bother to pm you stupid stuff like that. We have your back... at least as much as we can on a online message board.

Nice post Erika. I'm kinda shocked at some of the replies where many of you were apalled at the in-your-face post by huryly-gurly. Mayby she missed that class on being demur and polite when you are getting harassed.

I don't see where its a bad idea to bring this out in the open, since some of those who are reading this thread may have crossed the line a few times themselves. I think her point was to say: "we have a problem here" with the hope that the GC members accept it as a problem.

The responses I read are: tell the moderator, tell John, don't be upset, watch your spelling, if you are dumb enough to read that PM you deserve it, don't use a naughtie word, etc.

What the GC members can do is to support those who are having a problem and don't pile on them as whiney if they complain about it. What the guys can do is stop crossing the line and if you are sending out harassing PMs and emails then stop it.

I doubt if many of the guys here are doing this type of behavior and most of the ones who are, prolly don't mean it to be as offensive as those who receive it do. Remember, harassment is in the eye of the person on the receiving end. The bottom line is: if you are doing this behavior then stop it.

It's funny, some of the women didn't see anything wrong with the post?! Some did, and that's fine. The point I was getting at is it's not all of the guys sitting her pming the women of gc and asking them if they do it anal or whatnot. I don't know who it was, nor do I care, but in that same sense, what the hell am I supposed to do about it? Ignore the person, report the person, don't blame the other guys or girls that weren't involved nor don't know anything about it. As for the trust issue, it's not an issue of the girls not being able to trust the guys, it's all, guys trusting guys, girls trusting girls, guys trusting girls and on and on. Like I said before, this is the infamous "cyberspace." Expect to encounter beings of the thirdkind. That should be understood before you log on, dial-up, sign in, whatever. If you don't want to be subjected to it, maybe you shouldn't turn the puter on. Further, Like I also stated, many many ppl visit this site, so I'm guessing it's someone who isn't a regular to the site, or even registered, but was looking through info and got it.

Hootie- your caps lock is broken.

***edited part***
And furthermore, what does hiding behind a new nickname accomplish?! In due time, one could easily figure out who it is simply by similar word usage, punctuation, spelling, all that good stuff. Especially if they are a "notable gcer." Just food for thought.

In the past month or so, many of the ladies have experienced difficulties from some of you assholes.

If you guys want the ladies to stay here, then you'd better find a way to straighten this situation out.

From the words of the thread starter...that statement implies that ALL the men on GC are assholes. Sorry, but that's the way it is worded :)

The she goes on to think that Killarneyrose was "dissing her" and not looking at the situation. Maybe she should not "diss" the "assholes" and look at the WHOLE situation.

Yet, it says some of YOU assholes, not some of THE assholes. Read that way means that it is coming from some of "all" the assholes.
As for you amy, you are awesome, i love your posts and whatnot. BUT, when someone "a notable gcer" posts something like this, it's weak and better yet, something that I feel they can't deal with the consequences of it. I stuck of for some of the women involved in the whole kevin thing, you know, now I look at it, maybe I shouldn't have? That doesn't seem to influence some thoughts on this matter.

6ulvd8??? Come on... what is it!?!? I guess I'm just naive.

:confused:

~R

6ulvd8 = sexual deviant

Please remember, it doesn't HAVE to be a guy...

Damasa - First things first, I have always liked you and never had a problem with you, so let's just get that straight. :) When you supported me, and the rest of the *many* women who had to deal with the Kevin shit, I appreciated it greatly. But please don't think that I required your support in order to solve the problem. It was a nice bonus and the right thing to do - not the result of my pleading for your help. Anyone who read that thread knows that I have no trouble sticking up for what I know is right, even sticking my own neck out on behalf of others, and I don't need a man by my side yessing everything I say or do. :)

I look to the men of GC the same way I look to the women here - as acquaintences, debate partners, and sometimes even friends. I have never and will never depend on any of you to do my dirty work or come "rescue me". If anything, I would only contact those who I am close to for personal support and understanding. As I recall, Damasa, you contacted me offering support for the Kevin fiasco, I didn't come whining at your door. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate it because I think it was a measure of kindness, not because you thought I couldn't handle things myself.

I think it's really sad that some of you are caught up in the semantics of specific posts instead of focusing on what is going on here. This is NOT about one IM asking someone if they "do anal", this is about a growing trend that is really not acceptable. I don't think that anyone here has any incentive to lie or misrepresent the truth. So why is it that only a few people are expressing concern and reaching out, and the rest are either missing the boat entirely or making crass, insensitive comments?

I believe that one of the first things we can do to make this safer is to be careful with our own information. Guard it carefully - it is so easy to crack someone's email account just knowing their birthday and where they live, which a lot of people don't realize. We may think we know each other, but in reality, any one of us could be a fat pimply faced serial killer named Johnny/Susie Numbnuts. If someone is asking you questions you feel uncomfortable answering, go with your gut. No one has the right to make someone else feel uncomfortable on this board. I also think that making this a "members only" board (no "guest" posts) might help the matter some. Also, if there is any way to initiate an authentication process to make sure people don't have 6 user names coming from the same server...Heck, I don't know what the answer is, but something should be done.

Thanks for listening,
Carrie