You know your school doesn't get greeks...
 

When they schedule Alpha Delta Pi and Alpha Epsilon Phi for a social and Alpha Delta Phi and Alpha Epsilon Pi for a social. :)

(Not that I'm sure how many schools have all four)

Your school schedules socials? Interesting. All the ones I've worked with, the chapters schedule their own.

Illinois has all four, and I once heard that it was the reason ADPi was ADPi and not ADPhi, i.e. ADPi changed its name so they could colonize there. No idea if that's true or not.

Not sure that it was specifically Illinois but. (From the Wikipedia page about ADPi)
n 1905 the Adelphean Society changed its name to Alpha Delta Phi (ΑΔΦ), but was later changed because a men's fraternity by the same name was already well established at many universities where ADPi wanted to start chapters.

I wrote a post about the switch from Alpha Delta Phi to Alpha Delta Pi. http://wp.me/p20I1i-OE

So it was the extension to Illinois that was the key issue.

Yes, it was the first encounter of the two groups on the same campus, as far as I can tell.

LMAO!

My school has Alpha Delta Phi, Alpha Epsilon Pi, and Alpha Epsilon Phi (chapter founder here ;) ).

There are only 24 letters in the Greek alphabet, and most GLOs use two or three letters. Add to that the fact that the letters must stand for some secret motto - you can't exactly pick 2 or 3 letters out of a hat. As a result, there are a lot of GLOs that use similar letters. (Aside from the example I gave above, we also had Sigma Kappa, Kappa Sigma, Phi Sigma Kappa, Phi Kappa Sigma, and Phi Kappa Theta; Theta Chi and Theta Xi; Alpha Chi Omega, Alpha Tau Omega, and Alpha Phi Omega ... ) There are, of course, plenty of groups that don't follow the "2 or 3 Greek letters" pattern - alpha Kappa Delta Phi, Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi, Triangle, Farmhouse, Ceres, to name a few.

But I do have to ask why the school is scheduling socials. Shouldn't that be left to the GLOs' social chairs?

Pitt has Alpha Delta Pi, Alpha Epsilon Phi, and Alpha Epsilon Pi. At least, they did.

Thread is already well off the rails!!

I've heard of socials being scheduled by IFC & Panhel when there are issues with snobbery, i.e. groups refusing to mix with other groups for no reason other than their "tier."

I'd hope those groups would know which are male and female though.

Why? I know many campuses where sororities have socials with other sororities, etc.

I think her point is that if Panhel and IFC are planning socials, they should definitely know which groups are male and which are female. If the governing bodies of these organizations (which are made up of people from said organizations) don't know the differences in gender, then that's kind of … weird? ... for lack of a better word.

And my point is what difference does it make? A social is a social. If your social skills can't navigate both, you need some practice.

AST and I are assuming by socials he means mixers or swaps where a sorority and a fraternity are having a private event for just the two of them.

If naraht didn't mean that and there are also instances of say, ZTA & KKG being scheduled for whatever the school in question calls a social then the original post is pointless. :p

I'm talking about a private event for the two groups. Why can't they be two sororities? We did them all the time at UAB. Not unusual at all. I've known of them on other campuses as well. What is it you find so odd about that? As I said, social is social...one needs to learn to interact socially with both sexes...

Nothing wrong with that at all. However, the idea being presented was that they intended to match a fraternity with a sorority, and got their names confused.

Pansy Duo (KAO and DDD) and Monmouth Duo (PBP and KKG) are examples of private socials where members of each group bring a date to their shared event. I can't speak for colleges everywhere, but in Texas it was very common for sororities to co-host private date functions such as themed parties and formals.

Mixers (meet at this off campus bar/hangout to mix with members of the other GLO) were easy to plan with fraternities because little was required beyond an announcement in meeting and a sign in the house. (**note, I don't think these are allowed from a legal standpoint anymore...)

But speaking from only my campus experience, the fraternities were less than organized when it came to registered, pay up front, busses required for transportation, events. They also were wanting trashier sounding themed parties than we preferred. Therefore, the sororities just organized amongst ourselves and then invited the dates that we wanted there. If party t-shirts from other schools in Texas were any indication, I would say that was a VERY common practice.

And yes, it renders the OP pointless.

Exactly.

When referring to certain organizations, the school/Panhel/IFC/whoever should probably know which group they're actually talking about and sending to a social event (regardless of whether it's sorority-fraternity, sorority-sorority, or fraternity-fraternity).

::Picturing Alpha Epsilon Pi and Kappa Sigma at a Sex in the City-themed pajama party mixer::

I think the OP assumed the school was trying to match opposite sex orgs but there is nothing showing that was the intent.

No one disagreed with that. The idea as presented by the OP was that they didn't know their fraternities from their sororities. Everyone agreed that if that was not actually the true intention, then the OP was pointless.

I would love to see this.

http://images.essentialbaby.com.au/2...3-pj-300x0.jpg

Everyone did not agree and my post was in response to the one just before mine. What if the school knew which were which and did it on purpose? The OP and a couple of others here don't seem to be able to fathom that. That was my point.

It's not a matter of being able to "fathom" it, it's just that it is not what the original poster was commenting on.

If the OP would have said "why would a school schedule a social with two sororities?" then the first paragraph of ComradesTrue's post would have been an easy answer.

Your comment on (paraphrasing) the utter freakishness of a school scheduling GLO socials is what sent the thread off the rails in the first place.

Dr. Phil was correct - it's all 33girl's fault. My first post was #2 - first one after the OP. The next post to even mention it was #8 by aephi_alum as the last line in her post, sort of an after thought to her prime topic. The next time it was mentioned was post #11 BY YOU! You have such a narrow worldview that it's like trying to explain the Great Vowel Shift to a 3 year old.

Oh for crying out loud in a bucket. I was speaking to the subject of the original post (I was unaware that was wrong), and that has nothing to do with my "worldview." He's probably run screaming and vowed never to participate in anything involving sororities again considering a funny aside turned into this mess.

But you quoted me! Did you skip English 101????

:rolleyes:

This is just comical now. Are you really THAT upset over this thread?

The school gets confused about which GLO is which, regardless of who's supposed to be socializing with whom.

The end.

So now you are omniscient? Hmmmm

For some reason, I feel like singing "Let It Go" from Frozen.

The only person who seems to be disagreeing is you, but you're not saying anything different than what we're saying. Are you deliberately being contrary?

The OP presented the idea that the school scheduled two sororities together and two fraternities together unintentionally. Everyone operated off of that idea.

You brought up a counterpoint of "what's wrong with single-sex mixers?" when 33girl acknowledged that they should know which groups are which.

You were reassured by many that that was not what the OP was talking about, but if that were the case, there'd be no problem, and thus no point to this thread.

ASTalumna06 went back to what we were talking about.

You assumed once again that this must mean she can't possibly have considered that naraht doesn't know the motives behind the pairings. Really? We covered this already!

We acknowledge that. If they intended to pair sororities and fraternities together, then fabulous! Wonderful! That could be the case here. But it's humorous to think that they mixed them up, that's how it was presented to us, and that's what we're discussing.

For "social" I read "mixer". *puts on dunce cap*

I'm still curious as to why the school was setting up these socials - regardless of whether they intended to set up a mixer with two opposite-sex groups or a social event with two same-sex groups.

The confusion between AEPi and AEPhi strikes a particular chord with me (as an AEPhi) ... when we first became an AEPhi colony, random people kept coming up to us and asking when AEPi had gone coed (fraternities going coed at my school is not without precedent), or were we some kind of little sister group for AEPi, or what. I've said it before ... you'd think that people at arguably the top science and engineering school in the world would be able to tell the difference between pi and phi. :rolleyes: But I digress.

Huh? Why? No, nevermind...

This is pointless.

Have a great day everyone! :)

With good reason. Who's up for a GC choral rendition?

No offense, WhiteRose1912, but I'm not arguing with you or your statements. I've got a problem with one person here and everyone else is just fine. My comments aren't meant for you. If you'll go back and read just her posts you'll see how illogical they are. That's my problem. She takes one side and then the other of the argument and then says she knows what the OP meant when, in fact, the OP has never come back and said what was meant. Understand?

This makes me laugh so hard that I saw it, laughed, and clicked away from the thread. Then I went back to the thread two more times so I could repeat. Still chortling.

ETA: Just came back for a fourth viewing.

OP Here...

Just woke up from a dream about a semi-post apocalyptic college life to find semi-post apocalyptic greekchat... I've been sick the last couple of days so I hadn't come back to the thread...

The original post was intended as the school is clueless enough to get its greek letters confused as to what is a fraternity and what is a sorority and thus *humorously* gets things confused enough to schedule two fraternities together and two sororities together.


Now that I've posted, can we go to everyone being mad at me?

:eek:

/I hope my post is invisible

/I tried to understand this thread and simply cannot

That was the dumbest back-and-forth ever LOL