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Clemson University suspends all fraternities after freshman’s death
South Carolina’s Clemson University has suspended all 24 of its on-campus fraternities following the death of a 19-year-old freshman on Monday.
According to USA Today, fraternity brothers of Tucker Hipps say that the new member from Piedmont, South Carolina went jogging with them on Monday morning, but fell behind and subsequently disappeared. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/c...eshmans-death/ Clemson suspends frat activities after drowning death http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...eath/16142317/ |
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I wonder what is about to happen? |
Wierdly broad brush...
The article left me wondering whether the 24 fraternities mentioned represented the entirety of the NIC, and if so, does *every* member of the NIC have that type of report?
If not, I find the idea of idea of limiting the activities of Delta Tau Delta (to pick an example) without limiting those of Kappa Alpha Psi or Kappa Alpha Theta to be really odd... |
Wow, bad thread title.
They didn't suspend the fraternities, they suspended PLEDGING ACTIVITIES. And considering this has already been commented on by a poster who is AN ACTUAL ACTIVE SORORITY MEMBER AT CLEMSON I don't know why this thread is even here. The last thing we need is a poorly written USA Today article. |
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In the "What do you feel like saying right now?" thread.
I see that LillyPhi has been banned, after others noticed her/his posts were always negative/anti-Greek. SOM seems to have a similar track record. |
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-All social and new member activities have been suspended indefinitely for fraternities that belong to the campus IFC. This means, for example, that our chapter of Beta Upsilon Chi has been suspended, even though they are not a member of the NIC, and it means that none of the NPHC chapters are facing these sanctions. -All fraternities are required to initiate their new members by 9 PM this Friday unless they have asked for and been approved for an extension. A member of each national organization is required to confirm that the fraternities actually initiated their new members. -Fraternity philanthropic events and alumni events are being approved on a case-by-case basis. We're in the middle of Sigma Chi's Derby Days right now and various aspects of it are and aren't being cancelled at the last minute. As of right now we have no idea if the annual Homecoming float-building competition is happening or not. -The first of the Office of Conduct and Ethical Standards (OCES) hearings against fraternities are being heard this week. The number of fraternities with campus charges pending against them keeps changing, and I don't know which ones that is or what the charges are. -Tucker was a sophomore, not a freshman. This was his first year on campus but he was enrolled in the Clemson University Bridge Program last year, which is similar to other college transition programs found at Texas and Texas Tech. |
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I guess I missed the other thread when I did a search to see if this had been posted already. As for source matterial, once it was brought up as a concern, I did a rather fast search of the internet and found more, much more on this story. Clemson Suspends Activity at 24 Fraternities After Student Dies http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...dent-dies.html Was 19-year-old Clemson student killed by hazing? University suspends fraternity activities after Sigma Phil Eplison member fell off bridge to his death after 'initiation ritual'
Clemson University suspends all fraternity activities after student death University officials cite reports of alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct but stop short of tying ban to student’s death http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...tivities-death Clemson Suspends All Fraternity Activities After Student Death http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/0...student-death/ |
If you really are pro Greek, you should be aware that the news media often does a REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD job with Greek terms and to reproduce their headlines whole is foolhardy.
This is quite a Zippy thread. |
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In this case, usage of terms is a bit problematic. As are the facts of the matter. |
Wow. ALL IFC fraternities got slapped with sanctions because ONE pledge died under circumstances that nobody can prove had anything to do with hazing?
As many of you know, back in 1997, a freshman FIJI pledge at MIT died from alcohol poisoning. From all the information I have (I was a grad student at the time, and also did my undergrad at MIT) I'm pretty well convinced it was hazing. The pledge class was provided with a considerable amount of alcohol and had to consume all the alcohol before they could leave the room, and Scott Krueger "took one for the team" as it were, drank way too much booze, and died. (FIJI pulled the chapter's charter.) We (the undergrad and graduate student body) thought the MIT administration's reaction was pretty extreme. They banned alcohol at any event where anyone under 21 might be in attendance. (They later backed off a bit - IIRC, when the dust settled, alcohol was allowed at events as long as everyone was carded and someone who was TIPS trained was present.) But that's nothing compared to "OK, a pledge died, we can't prove it's hazing, but there have been incidents of hazing on campus, so we're just going to paint all IFC fraternities with a broad brush and tell them that they must initiate all current pledges immediately and not recruit any new pledges" (indefinitely, as far as I can make out). |
My impression is that the suspension is less about this specific incident/this specific fraternity and more to do with problems with the general fraternity culture there. According to the Student Affairs VP, over the past couple weeks alone, the university has gotten at least 15 complaints over hazing, sexual assault, and other problems--and at least 6 of those complaints are serious enough that they're being investigated by the police. To me, that does suggest a crisis that's dire enough to take drastic measures.
The NPHC and NPC groups are either not engaging in the same kinds of practices or nobody is bothering to complain about them doing so, so it's not surprising that they wouldn't be subject to the ban. |
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So a fraternity allegedly hazed hard enough to kill someone. What does the University think compliance with their suspension of pledging activities from groups which already (allegedly) didn't have problems breaking the law by hazing will look like?
The organizations which always follow the rules will do so and the groups which ignored state law and the student code of conduct will continue to do that. Typical overreaction. |
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The other issue is now with Title IX and more people speaking out about sexual assault on campus the university is going to be more cautious. If there are obvious issues related to hazing and increased alcohol consumption during pledging those are also going to connect to more issues related to sexual assault or harassment. |
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And in my opinion, one sexual assault allegation is serious enough for the university to take some kind of action. Three in the span of "a few weeks" is beyond the pale and the suspension of activities would be justified on that basis alone. Quote:
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Clemson will allow some fraternities to resume activities October 10, according to reports. For details and requirements that must be met for a fraternity to resume activities, see http://www.abcnews4.com/story/267007...-resume-oct-10 |
Tucker Hipps' parents have filed a $25 million lawsuit in which it is alleged that his death stemmed from a fight over McDonald's biscuits.
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/stor...suit/70690688/ I have no words. |
I was reading this today. I'm greatly disturbed by the allegations of a coverup by the members and the pledges. If the accusations are true, these guys went to great lengths to hide what happened.
MysticCat or Kevin can probably clarify, but is there "conspiracy after the fact" in cases of manslaughter? |
As an insurance defense attorney, I see comolaints filed with courts every day that are full of wild, hugely unsubstantiated claims. It's the nature of the beast, at least where I practice. I would caution anyone from thinking that the allegations in a complaint are all founded on truth or even suspicion.
Not saying that is the case here. Just advising we all read complaints with several grains of salt. |
Reading the article, I'm having a hard time seeing manslaughter.
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