Ray Rice cut by Ravens, suspended by NFL
 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/us/ray...ew-video/forum

All I can say is hallelujah! Too bad he didn't get to play one game just so he could get the shit kicked out of him by the other team.

^^Yes!!! I'm glad the Ravens took this matter seriously and cut him based on clear conduct/anger management issues. However, his then fiancee who went on to marry him, even after he did that to her...that I don't understand.

That happens everyday for various reasons.

Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that a woman who was pressured into apologizing for her role in having the daylights beaten out of her might have felt that she didn't have a lot of support.

I am not ready to sing the Ravens praises. If you base "taking the matter seriously" only on their actions yesterday afternoon then I suppose you could credit them with responding appropriately. However, that isn't the case. They have known for months that something happened. They have supported and defended him all along, even praised him. They claim they haven't seen the tape, which in a technicality *may* be true. However, they did see the video from the hallway with him dragging her, and certainly had the ability to seek out the elevator tape for more information, but they actively chose not to do that.

To make matters worse on May 22 @Ravens tweeted this: "Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident." article with copy of tweet

For them to believe that that tiny woman was an aggressor and that Ray Rice just acted in self defense is the sickest bunch of filth that I have heard in a long time.

The Ravens only acted because they knew they had a PR disaster on their hands, not because it was the right thing to do. They have had months to do the right thing, including fully investigating the incident, but did not.

It's called battered persons syndrome.

Hey Max, what'll you do if your Eagles pick him up?

he's suspended indefinitely from the NFL

He was charged, and plead our for some sort of rehab program or some other bullshit.

The statement his wife released broke my heart and I only hope all of this hasn't been taken out on her and that she's safe.

And the CFL, too. Even Canada doesn't want him.

I have a good friend who recently became engaged to a man with a criminal record a mile long, much of it related to domestic violence (i.e. beating the living crap out of women he dated in the past). He's also an alcoholic and drug addict, albeit "recovered". She's beautiful, college-educated, owns her own successful business, and has never lacked attention from the male sex. But she "loves him so much". It boggles my mind. Denial is a powerful, powerful force.

New information has come out that says that the NFL did receive the Ray Rice video in April: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...xecutive-april

This would be damning for Roger Goodell, because it would mean he had seen the video and chose to give Rice a two-game suspension regardless, as well as implicating Goodell as a liar for claiming the NFL tried to get the video but never received it. First time in my life I've actually been excited for such a media frenzy, because we're covering this incident in real time in my Communications classes.

I have to say that I'm really disappointed by all the FB posts of people saying things like, "The Ravens turned their back on Ray Rice but, when my family and I turn our backs, we will be wearing Ray Rice jerseys" and other things like, "I support Ray Rice." What? What is wrong with people?

I wish I had a Ray Rice jersey so I could trade it in for the free pizza a place is offering.

NOW (National organization for women) want Roger Goodell gone

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...goodell-resign

Goodall needs to go!

None of my friends have been anything but supportive of the decision to fire Rice. I wouldn't be surprised to see that response, though, considering the Ravens' fans gave Rice a standing O at the first pre-season game.:rolleyes:

I guess I'm really fortunate that I'm not seeing that kind of BS on Facebook. I think those people are doing you a favor by letting you know that you need to de-friend them (or hide them from your feed if they are family).

Ray Rice just flat out needs his ass kicked.

I agree with you AOII Angel. It's sad that this is even happening. I also saw a post someone wrote on FB saying that Ray Rice needs to go because this situation has tarnished the NFL. Ummm...No, that reputation wasn't tarnished long before this with Michael Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, or any of the other guys who have gotten in trouble for child abuse, domestic violence, drugs, and weapons---right? :rolleyes: Either way, it's just horrible that this even happened and I like how the Roger Goodell (NFL) is trying to be like Mark Emmert (NCAA) as he picks and chooses when to have a moral compass.

Low Flat D, I totally agree with you. Now I know what friends could probably be cleaned from my friend list. It's even more shocking when a majority of his supporters appear to be my female friends. :confused:

Adrian Peterson was arrested on child abuse charges. I'd like to hope that these recent events will open up a dialogue about the ways hero worship of professional athletes has become unhealthy and detrimental to our society.

Thanks. I couldn't remember every person who had gotten in trouble with the law or CPS, though it happened recently. I agree. We need to have a discussion about what should and should not be tolerated.

I have to preface this with saying I think there's no excuse for domestic violence and I don't support this individual in any way.

However, I've never heard of anybody losing their job over a non-felony - non-conviction (it's a weird legal status he was in but it won't show on his record as a conviction if he meets the requirements set by the court) so... who should be losing their jobs over convictions that have nothing to do with their ability to do their jobs overall? I get it if someone in retail is fired for shoplifting at another store. But, should what happens in your personal life result in consequences by your employer? I have a hard time with this principle in general.

If someone had a DUI but was say.. a computer programmer... who didn't get jail time for it, should that person be fired?

I'm trying to understand when this is ok and when it isn't.

@AGDee I get what your saying, but as an NFL player he signs up that he's basically going to be a spokesperson for the organization (there is a better word for this but for some reason it isn't coming up) and he represents the Ravens organization as well.

Theoretically, if these jags can't control themselves to the point that they're smacking around women and children, that could also translate to control issues on the playing field, which could result in penalties, lost games, and montary fines. If you want a reason that has nothing to do with morals, that would be it.

This ^^^^ right here.

Bingo. It's just like when any other spokesperson has their promotional contract cancelled after a public instance that calls their character into question.

Lol did you just see the video? I just didn't see any other posts over here from you. That's why I was asking. Too funny. I hear you, though.

He's a public figure, he's under more scrutiny than an average Joe. I view it as similar to being a politician, you've chosen a career in the public light and with that comes a higher standard. Cross that line and the public will demand action.

Bill Clinton nearly lost his job over a non-felony, non-conviction.

I'm sure these guys probably all have wording in their contracts that have to deal with this exact thing (i.e. You're a public figure, so don't do anything incredibly stupid, or we have every right to fire you).

Some companies would fire you. I would figure that a non-tenured professor who got charges for domestic violence or a DUI could be fired. Soldiers can get kicked out of the military for these issues. Even counselors/ therapists could lose their job at agencies and hospitals for things like this. We could argue that a lapse in judgment like this does not warrant losing your job because it does not technically affect how well you do it but, why should a computer programmer be any different than a college professor, soldier, or counselor/ therapist? We should all be held to higher standards. It's just that, if you do good work at your job, it's easy to look away from holding people to a higher standard.

It's always "okay." The company that hires the employee can choose to fire an employee for any reason. When there are contracts, those contracts specify those reasons, so employees should be aware of their rights and responsibilities. High profile employees are especially susceptible to firing because of embarrassment to the company. The company has no responsibility to keep an employee that jeopardizes their business. There have been several cases of CEOs in the tech sector who have stepped down because of sexist behavior in the work place. No convictions or even charges. Donald Sterling didnt break any laws, but he lost his NBA team because his conduct jeopardized the whole NBA not just the Clippers. These cases may have taken more time than the Rice firing, but they are still gone. Your example of a low level employee and a DUI isn't the same because unless they killed someone or they'd had multiple DUIs, the DUI wouldn't cast the company in a bad light. Bad PR is a justifiable cause for firing.

And considering a very high up person at my ex-employer recently got sacked because he couldn't keep it in his pants (or at least be discreet about it) this isn't just a famous-people thing either.

In our hyper 24 hour news cycle where NOTHING goes unnoticed anymore, and the social media platform to speak out and shame companies in hours, optics matter, period. Image is everything.

It's why teens need to understand the stupid stuff they do these days, it'll still be there on Google when they're 40 and looking for a job.

^Hit the nail on the head. Someone said it earlier and I want to echo the sentiment that bringing shame/ embarrassment to your employer can be grounds for dismissal in many circumstances.

Okay y'all, PrettyBoy is crazy lol.

We stress to PNMS that image matters, scrub your profiles down, make everything private, if it's spring rush be careful in the fall not get a "bad" reputation.

If we stress this to 18 yr old freshmenand hold them accountable for their "image" It's ridiculous to think image doesn't matter to companies or anyone who has money on the line.