Weighted or non weighted gpa? Formal Recruitment
 

Do sororities take weighted or unweighted gpa's?

I don't know much about the University of Alabama, so I can't answer your question about weighted GPA. However, a 2.75 is pretty low. You'll probably face heavy cuts with that GPA.

We can't tell you exactly what your chances are. You have recommendations lined up, which is good. At this point, it's too late to change anything about your GPA. All you can do is go through recruitment and be yourself. You will probably face heavy cuts with a GPA lower than 3.0, but you'll never know for sure unless you try.

Maybe yes, maybe no. It all depends if some group is willing to take a chance on you. We can't say whether that might happen. Keep an open mind and go with the flow.

You've shared a lot of information that makes you easily identifiable - perhaps you'll edit, and perhaps after you do that, maconmagnolia will also edit the QFP IF you ask her politely, privately.

Truthfully, that is NOT a strong GPA. You'd best keep a very open mind to every chapter. Even those chapters you might see as "undesirable" or "bottom tier" will pass you over. Believe it or not, no chapter is desperate.

Just so I'm clear on what she's asking, a weighted GPA is one that even if it's lower on paper, can be explained by showing what classes were taken/AP classes were taken etc?

That sounds like my keyboard is full of mush but it's been a long day :PP

A weighted GPA is one that is not measured on a 4.0 scale. For example, a PNM whose high school weighs honors and AP classes differently may choose to use a 5.0 or 6.0 scale. Therefore, someone whose GPA is 2.75 on a 4.0 scale, may have a 3.43 on a weighted 5.0 scale.

The problem as I see it, misplacedtexan, is that the only scale which really matters is the college scale, where a 4.0 is a 4.0 is a 4.0. When I receive a transcript in a packet, I always provide the unweighted GPA on my rec because I know that my house is looking -- not at how did the student perform in her specific high school environment -- but how will she perform in college?

I would look at the Bama Panhellenic FAQ regarding grades and the red/yellow/green zone.

A weighted GPA is "weighted" in favor of an extra point value assigned to AP classes, for instance. Therefore a "A" in an AP class is valued more in the GPA calculation than a "A" in a non-AP class (this is why many students have beyond a 4.0 on a 4.0 scale with a weighted GPA). Around here, a student can have a 4.3 GPA, for instance, on a 4.0 scale due to weighting of AP classes taken.

I think the OP is indicating that her weighted GPA is higher than her unweighted GPA.

Her GPA, as far as the chapters are concerned, will be the one the University uses - not her HS. The University will convert that so if her grades on a non weighted 4.0 scale are 2.75, then that's what it is.

In my former job, I had to calculate GPA's based on our scale on our specific campus, and on an occassion, we received transcripts that are on a 5.00 scale (or other random scales). We had to convert the information (credit hours/quality points) to the scale to fit ours.

I bet that was fun.

Yes...and that's one of the many reasons why it's my "former job." ;) It did allow me the blessing of free tuition.

It is probably a good idea to include a weighted GPA on the recruitment resume and/or transcript passed along to those who write one's recs, especially in misplacedtexan's situation. This would bring attention to (and perhaps consideration of) advanced coursework.

Along with misplacedtexan's good college entrance scores and other positives, perhaps she will seem less a grade risk for college coursework than she might otherwise.

Good luck to you misplacedtexan. Hang in there and you may find your chapter home.

(And STUDY so that you are not in this situation later and can continue in the College of Engineering!)

ADD moment - The school I teach at is on a 4.5 point scale.... how obnoxious is that?

The University of Alabama uses the *weighted* GPA as stated by the high school on the transcript for admissions and scholarship purposes. The question is- do the sororities use the same GPA?

OP- if you are quoting your unweighted GPA and your weighted GPA is at least a 3.5 then you have qualified for a 2/3 tuition scholarship (with your 30 ACT score) as an out of state student or a full tuition scholarship as an Alabama resident. It would seem strange to me that you would qualify for generous scholarships but not Greek life. It makes me think that you are fine- but you need to check. Is your weighted GPA at least a 3.5??

My daughter's school does the same. For a school like Bama it works in one's favor because they do not recalculate the weighted GPA and take it as stated by the high school. It doesn't work so well when the school recalculates- as is the case with the Florida public universities.

Also -- from the U of A site: http://scholarships.ua.edu/faq/

For entering freshmen, when GPA is reviewed for scholarships, will a weighted or unweighted GPA be considered?

If both are listed on the official high school transcript, the highest one will be reviewed.

You are treading into membership selection territory.

Not meaning to offend or venture into forbidden territory. I am making an observation and telling the OP that she should do some checking to see if there is a definite answer to her question. Is the answer to this question different for each sorority and not made public? I ask this question because I don't know.

Bama looks at weighted GPA (as stated by the high school) for admissions and scholarships- is it the same for recruitment or does each sorority have their own policy? I know quite a bit about Bama's admissions and scholarships but I do not know the answer to the GPA question with regard to recruitment. The OP has already been told on this thread that she would face "heavy cuts" but this is not necessarily true if the sororities consider GPA in the same manner as the admissions/scholarships office.

Either way- I hope the answer to this question works out to the OP's advantage and I hope she has a great recruitment experience.

Re: the bolded. Yes.

You are making assumptions and I am politely asking you to refrain from commenting on membership selection. I'm not mad, not upset - I'm just asking you not to make assumptions, especially with regard to something that you are not experienced with, or familiar with; otherwise you'd not be connecting dots the way you are. ;) Several NPC women have posted that she will likely experience heavy cuts, and that should be enough information to answer your question(s).

True -- and since admissions would be the only source of an official transcript, the GPA on record with Panhellenic would be that from admissions, correct?

This might be very good news for the OP. I'm sure she appreciates the info -- you were the only poster on this thread who knew straight-up that Bama doesn't recalculate and takes the weighted GPA. I didn't think you were treading into forbidden territory at all. : )

I know UAB CPH recalculates according to core subjects only on their scale and that's the GPA they give the chapters. So, I am assuming all UA campuses do the same. BUT, since I'm assuming, I could be wrong.

Actually- I explicitly stated that I am only sure about Bama's procedure for considering GPA for the purpose of admission and scholarships.

I sure hope the OP does well and enjoys her experience.

UA and UAB have different policies regarding GPA and admissions. This is different from what I have encountered in the past because in my home state the universities function the way you say- they are under the same umbrella and have the same policies.

Please talk about your OWN NPC sorority, whatever that is. Thanks.

However, you did extrapolate to "Greek life" eligibility. But, fine. Thanks. It may be different for your NPC sorority (sorry, I don't know what your membership is).

We all wish her well.

I'm not talking about the admissions process. I'm only talking about the GPA that PH gives the sororities. Those can be 2 entirely different things.

One more consideration: a PNM gives her transcript to an alumna who is writing a rec; this,in turn, may be relayed to the sorority. Again, it is MS and up to each NPC sorority's MS process.

Where does PH get the GPAs at Bama? Wouldn't these come from admissions since they would be the only source of an official transcript?

Can't speak for Bama BUT in AZ, the PNM submits a transcript to PH as part of the application process for recruitment. So, what about Bama?

Actually, we were talking about GPA at Bama and whether weighted or unweighted is used in recruitment and admissions there. Not a specific sorority.

Do you have experience with admissions or recruitment at Bama?

Perhaps you should talk about your own, whatever that is.

Official transcripts must be sent from the high school to the university, as per my understanding.

At the schools where I have been an advisor (NOT Bama) panhellenic provides a GPA that has been recalculated according to that school's method. It is ordinarily not too far from whatever GPA is on the final HS transcript, unless the student has a year of college under her belt. Then it is what she has earned in college. It does not say weighted or unweighted, so i can not say which it is.

Here: http://www.uapanhellenic.com/2014-fa...cruitment.html

Is a Final Academic Transcript Required to Participate in Recruitment?

Yes. All submitted academic information in Innova will be verified against official transcripts on file with The University of Alabama and academic information will be updated to match University records. To ensure that we have your correct academic information, please verify with your high school or college that a certified copy of your FINAL high school and/or college transcript has been sent directly to the UA Office of Admissions. It is YOUR responsibility to make sure UA has an official certified copy of your FINAL transcript, as this will be the recognized grade point average (GPA) shared with each sorority. All FINAL transcripts should be mailed directly from your high school or college to the UA Office of Admissions at the address below no later August 1, 2014 to ensure that they are received prior to the start of recruitment.


The University of Alabama
Office of Undergraduate Admissions
P.O. Box 870132
Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35487 24


And here, concerning online recruitment registration: http://www.uapanhellenic.com/2014-fa...cruitment.html

Digital copy of your high school or college transcript

a. Please note that this will be an optional feature and is not required as part of the online application form. If you do not have a copy of your transcript at the time of registration, please log back in to your account at a later date, prior to August 1st, to add your transcript. You can also upload a partial transcript until your final transcript becomes available.

b. Transcripts must be less than 1MB in size and while a PDF copy is preferable, you can submit your transcript in any one of the following allowable formats: doc, docx, xls, xlsx, txt, pdf, gif, jpg, jpeg.


Therefore, since transcript info (if submitted) to Panhellenic during registration by PNM is updated to match that of admissions, and admissions uses the weighted GPA (or highest GPA, weighted or unweighted) as stated on transcript, and these GPAs from admissions are the GPAs shared with sororities, this is probably good news for the OP.

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AWESOME! This is great information, good researching skills, Hart.

Let me elaborate, since I omitted the "official" part of "transcript" from my post. There you have it.

misplacedtexan,

I think you should contact admissions and ask what GPA they have on record for you there. Since this would be the GPA shared with sororities, you would have a definitive answer to your question.

Best of luck to you!