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Nanners52674 07-02-2014 11:41 AM

Texas Tech Students Hunting Photos Cause Uproar
 
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Aside from cheerleading, 19-year-old Kendall Jones’ hobbies involve hunting for and killing threatened animals and posting the photo evidence of the dead animals onto her Facebook page, Kendall Takes Wild.

Jones, a blonde cheerleader from Texas Tech University, takes pride in hunting big African game, including lions, tigers, buffalos, leopards and rhinos — including a threatened white rhino, of which there are only 20,000 remaining.

*WARNING* this link goes to an article that has pictures of the woman posing with dead animals.

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/thi...pissed/652339/

i'm so disgusted by this. I don't understand why people enjoy killing exotic or endangered animals.



*No clue if Jones is in a sorority*

33girl 07-02-2014 11:59 AM

What a stupid non-story. Not that killing endangered species is right, of course, but that this girl is the one doing it. There are 3 references to her being a cheerleader before the end of the first paragraph. If she was some good ole boy who plays safety on the football team, this would have never seen publication.

DrPhil 07-02-2014 01:31 PM

They are reporting this for the shock value of her being of a different demographic.

She was being an attention whore when posting these images online. She knows how many people feel about hunting certain animals. She did this to bring attention to herself with hopes of eventually getting a cable show.

Do most hunters of endangered animals put photos on social media?

Kevin 07-02-2014 01:35 PM

She's brilliant at self-promotion. I'll give her that.

Low D Flat 07-02-2014 02:39 PM

Is she Greek?

shirley1929 07-02-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Low D Flat (Post 2279686)
Is she Greek?

Probably not, because if I remember correctly, TTU Cheerleading has a rule that you can't tryout and go through recruitment. Their team is extremely competitive & they want your undivided attention... Had a friend who's daughter went to TTU and wanted to cheer, but decided not to because of the rule.

Xidelt 07-02-2014 03:25 PM

How is she getting away with hunting these endangered animals? I'm pretty sure there's a special place in hell for narcissistic fame whores like her.

Kevin 07-02-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 2279695)
How is she getting away with hunting these endangered animals? I'm pretty sure there's a special place in hell for narcissistic fame whores like her.

She's not doing it in the U.S. and she's buying all of the proper permits.

I think it's brilliant really. She's going to have a shot at all kinds of endorsements from gun manufacturers, speaking gigs at conservative rallies and gun shows, etc. She's going to have a ton of opportunities due to this. Smart girl.

DrPhil 07-02-2014 04:55 PM

"Smart" is used too loosely.

Opportunist? Yes.
Someone with resources? Yes.
Someone who takes advantage of resource? Yes.

This young white woman definitely didn't take herself to Africa and start randomly killing endangered animals without a lot of help from other people.

Kevin 07-02-2014 05:21 PM

There are all kinds of people out there born into privilege who never make anything of themselves. This lady basically took an expensive vacation, publicized it well via social media, probably fully aware of the shitstorm which would follow... step 4: Profit.

DrPhil 07-02-2014 05:41 PM

Was she born into privilege? I missed that part of the story.

I don't find anything marvelous or genius about what she's doing. She is using social media and overall media to get attention for an act that makes some people frown. Yay.

Kevin 07-02-2014 06:49 PM

I assume she was born into money because your average middle class kid doesn't have the resources to go to Africa, pay for permits to kill lions and such. Hey, if she took out a loan and this was a business model, that's some sort of genius right there.

navane 07-02-2014 08:34 PM

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/...71131857_n.jpg


Interesting. Here's a photo where it shows a cameraman with a high-quality camera videotaping her hunt.

(FYI- Per the caption, this rhino was not killed. She had "assisted" a veterinarian by darting it to put it to sleep so that he could take measurements and treat the animal's inured leg.)


She has herself titled as a "Public Figure" on her Facebook page. Her "About" page on Facebook is equally as interesting as she describes her hunting experience:

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About

Born and raised in the outdoors of the great State of Texas.

Biography

I grew up in the small town of Cleburne, Texas where my hunting career started. As a child I would go with my dad on all of his hunting adventures watching him on our ranch, as well as, traveling to Africa to see him take his Big 5. I took my first trip to Zimbabwe in Africa with my family in 2004 (age 9) and watched my dad bring many animals home. As badly as I wanted to shoot something I was just too small to hold the guns my dad had brought. I became fascinated with the culture over there and visited one of the elementary schools to deliver candy, coloring books and soccer balls to the under privileged children. This was an eye opening experience for me to see how other children my age lived in a third world country.

In 2008, (age 13) I took my second trip to Africa to start my Big 5 experience, but this time to South Africa. Although I had many other opportunities to shoot animals I wanted to save it for the Big 5, so the first animal I ever shot was a White Rhino with a .416 Remington!! On this trip I also took some plains game, such as impala, kudu and mountain reedbuck home.

I returned to Africa the next summer in 2009 (age 14) to finish my quest for The Big 5. This time I went on a 28 day safari and took an Elephant with a shot from a .416 Remington and finished it off with my dad's .470 Nitro Express. Along with the elephant I also harvested a charging Cape buffalo and a huge maned lion. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to take a leopard on this trip, so I returned 2 weeks later for another 14 day safari. This time I got my leopard, and also took down a hippo to get 6 of the Dangerous 7 at the age of 14! I was lucky enough to have all of my hunting adventures professionally videoed and put onto DVD.

On the side of hunting, I am also receiving an education from Texas Tech University. I am a cheerleader for the University representing the All Girl Squad making apprearances at football, basketball and volleyball games, as well as, attending many public events as part of the Spirit Program. I am currently a sophomore with a degree program focusing on Marketing and Sports Therapy.

CMDelta 07-03-2014 12:12 AM

A friend of mine from HS knows this family and she posted this on her FB page tonight - "Whether you agree or not, at least get all the facts straight before you start making judgements against a teenager! Remember you can't take everything you read on social media as fact. Some news agencies do lie to get a story out there"

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Cleburne Times-Review : Cleburne hunter responds to Facebook reactions
m.cleburnetimesreview.com

Cleburne resident Kendall Jones’ Facebook pictures and posts chronicing her African hunting safari are rife with responses...


DrPhil 07-03-2014 12:16 AM

Isn't it funny how someone is "just a teenager" when it is time to do damage control?

KD4Me 07-03-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2279720)
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/...71131857_n.jpg


Interesting. Here's a photo where it shows a cameraman with a high-quality camera videotaping her hunt.

(FYI- Per the caption, this rhino was not killed. She had "assisted" a veterinarian by darting it to put it to sleep so that he could take measurements and treat the animal's inured leg.)


She has herself titled as a "Public Figure" on her Facebook page. Her "About" page on Facebook is equally as interesting as she describes her hunting experience:

Am I reading this correctly? She began her hunting "career" by going to Africa for a shoot? That makes her sound less like an avid hunter and more like someone trying do something "newsworthy". I think that I read or heard that she was accompanied by a video crew on at least one shoot, which would explain the high-quality photograph someone mentioned earlier. Doesn't it take some skill to be able to shoot giant animals and kill them humanely? (I don't mean to get into whether it is humane to shoot animals; what I am trying to say is one shot vs. many shots.)

I have friends who shoot and are hunters, but I personally could never hunt. I don't understand why it is fun to kill one of God's creation. I can't look at the pictures of her with those giant animals. They just make me very sad.

Kevin 07-03-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2279737)
Isn't it funny how someone is "just a teenager" when it is time to do damage control?

You seem to assume that damage has been done. Duck Dynasty, remember, is still doing great as far as ratings go despite what their cast members have said in public and the large public outcry against them. If she has a camera crew with her, I'd be shocked if she wasn't looking to pitch a reality show. Some network would pay a lot of money and she'll make a heap of money.

She may be damaged goods in your eyes, but you are in no way even remotely close to the demographic she's aiming for, so I doubt she would care very much about what you think.

DrPhil 07-03-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KD4Me (Post 2279770)
Am I reading this correctly? She began her hunting "career" by going to Africa for a shoot? That makes her sound less like an avid hunter and more like someone trying do something "newsworthy".

Well, she supposedly started hunting (in Africa?) at the age of 9.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/03...ed-by-critics/

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2279777)
You seem to assume that damage has been done.

Yep.

Kevin 07-03-2014 12:05 PM

Haters be hatin'.

DrPhil 07-03-2014 12:10 PM

Or we have opinions just as you have opinions. ;) You don't have any inside knowledge.

DubaiSis 07-03-2014 01:55 PM

I heard a little nugget that she's working on a reality TV deal, so she wants to be Sarah Pslin when she grows up. I also got a little nugget that some of the pictures were of animals that had been shot with tranquilizers for tagging. So yes, just an attention whore but she will do well because people eat this shit UP.

Nanners52674 07-03-2014 02:47 PM

I'm just curious what kind of money this big game hunting costs.

I mean flights alone are thousands of dollars.

Low D Flat 07-03-2014 02:56 PM

The licenses can be tens of thousands. If we're getting into stuff like white rhinos, they can be auctioned into the six figures.

Nanners52674 07-03-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Low D Flat (Post 2279801)
The licenses can be tens of thousands. If we're getting into stuff like white rhinos, they can be auctioned into the six figures.

Just to clarify, auction the hunting passes or auctioning the dead animal carcass?.

Low D Flat 07-03-2014 08:02 PM

Auctioning the hunting license. There's only some limited number of animals that they decide to allow each year, so rich people who are into this sort of thing pay through the nose.

This is something I really, really don't get. Hunting deer, turkeys, etc. is not my cup of tea, but to each his own. However, rushing to kill one of the last dodo birds or whatever is just beyond me. I know Teddy Roosevelt was into it, and he was a great conservationist, but I simply can't grasp it.

navane 07-03-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KD4Me (Post 2279770)
Am I reading this correctly? She began her hunting "career" by going to Africa for a shoot? That makes her sound less like an avid hunter and more like someone trying do something "newsworthy". I think that I read or heard that she was accompanied by a video crew on at least one shoot, which would explain the high-quality photograph someone mentioned earlier.


Per her own words, she says, "I grew up in the small town of Cleburne, Texas where my hunting career started." So, her hunting career began in Texas as a little girl going on outings with her father. She then goes on to say that she made her first trip to Africa at age 9 and then again at 13, 14 (x2) and 19.


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I returned to Africa the next summer in 2009 (age 14) to finish my quest for The Big 5. This time I went on a 28 day safari and took an Elephant with a shot from a .416 Remington and finished it off with my dad's .470 Nitro Express. Along with the elephant I also harvested a charging Cape buffalo and a huge maned lion. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to take a leopard on this trip, so I returned 2 weeks later for another 14 day safari.

I have to assume that her family has money as I don't understand how a 14-year old could pay for a 28-day safari to Africa and then return two weeks later for a 14-day safari. :confused: If her becoming a "famous" reality TV star makes them millions, I suppose it will have been worth the investment to them.

navane 07-03-2014 08:16 PM

And for what it's worth....

I'm largely indifferent where the young, cheerleader is concerned. Legal? Yes. Distasteful? Yes. However, ISIS is conducting mass beheadings in Syria right now. That is, they are cutting the heads off of many human beings. Interestingly, the U.S. public seems to be more up in arms over the cheerleader.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...ying-violence/

33girl 07-03-2014 08:29 PM

That's because people are too confused about the Middle East and don't know if it's good or bad that those people have been beheaded. Everyone pretty much does know though that shooting endangered species = bad.

navane 07-03-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674 (Post 2279800)
I'm just curious what kind of money this big game hunting costs.

I mean flights alone are thousands of dollars.


I just read someone's post elsewhere (I don't know who the quote is attributed to) stating:

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Licenses to hunt exotic animals in Africa can cost upwards of $350,000. Much of the proceeds go back into the local community to incentivize land-owners to raise and protect the next generation of brood, which paradoxically increases the wildlife population. Know what doesn't help increase wildlife populations in Africa? Bitching about it on Facebook. I don't see anyone else offering to pony $350,000 to save an animal's life. Your petition signatures are worth nothing. Until Lions learn how to breed with your righteous indignation and e-petitions, you're wasting your energy. Harsh truth time: conservation costs money, and if you're not willing to pay, you're not saving anything.

Yikes, $350,000 is a lot of money for a permit. :eek: Her explanation of "conservation" makes a lot more sense now. I guess that huge money is an incentive for the land-owners to keep the animal population stable. So, if I'm understanding correctly, the concept is, "I'll give you a lot of money to keep the animal population stable. In return, you'll let me shoot a few." :confused:


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Originally Posted by 33girl
That's because people are too confused about the Middle East and don't know if it's good or bad that those people have been beheaded. Everyone pretty much does know though that shooting endangered species = bad.


I thought that most people understood that ISIS and Al Queda = bad guys. But, if you're saying that Americans are perhaps a bit ignorant about current events and don't "get it", I'll agree with you on that.

Nanners52674 07-03-2014 11:01 PM

What do you do with it after? Like do you take elephant home have it preserved and keep it in your very large room built to hold an elephant?

This whole thing is very foreign to me.

DrPhil 07-04-2014 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2279826)
And for what it's worth....

I'm largely indifferent where the young, cheerleader is concerned. Legal? Yes. Distasteful? Yes. However, ISIS is conducting mass beheadings in Syria right now. That is, they are cutting the heads off of many human beings. Interestingly, the U.S. public seems to be more up in arms over the cheerleader.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...ying-violence/

Start a new thread. I hate when people do what you're trying to do. The news has extensively covered ISIS and many people in the USA and around the world are outraged.

Back to the thread topic for those of us who are able to multitask.

StealthMode 07-04-2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2279777)
You seem to assume that damage has been done.

She's receiving a ton of negative press and the news reported that she has also received death threats. I would call that "damage."

Kevin 07-04-2014 02:25 AM

She's probably going to get a reality TV show.

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-foo...acebook-070214

Those of you who screamingly disapprove? Yup. Part of her plan.

StealthMode 07-04-2014 03:15 AM

I highly doubt anyone in this thread is unaware of negative attention being part of her plan.

Hearttoheart 07-04-2014 09:10 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say how proud I am of this young lady. She can bring home the bacon AND fry it up in a pan! At least that's what we say down here in the south.

Hunting is a sport and usually done for food or for thinning a growing population. If the herd gets too big and there isn't enough food to go around, everybody starves. Most wild game preserves has a very good game management program where they know exactly how many animals need to be taken off the land to preserve balance. You don't want these animals roaming the streets of town looking for food do you?

Obviously this young lady is working with local vets to help control the animal population and make sure all the animals remain healthy.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I for one am proud of this brave young lady.

Kevin 07-04-2014 09:19 AM

I think her primary interest is scoring a reality show contract rather than thinning herds or working with native peoples. But that said, it looks like it's a good strategy and this young lady is headed towards a massive payday.

This reminds me of the flack concerning certain some homophobic utterances by that gentleman on Duck Dynasty. That turned into millions of dollars worth of free publicity, much improved merchandising deals from companies like Cracker Barrel in exchange for a little slap on the wrist from the network. Now their ratings are better than ever.

She is taking advantage of the sharp political/cultural divide in our society. There are millions of right-wing, gun totin', God fearin' folk who will lap this up in hopes that some librul' somewhere will be offended.

33girl 07-04-2014 09:45 AM

Just wondering, are any of these animals edible? I mean I know that if you had to you could, but would you want to?

Re that comment navane posted, coupling hunting and conservation just sounds kind of like coupling rape and sex education.

DrPhil 07-04-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2279859)
I think her primary interest is scoring a reality show contract rather than thinning herds or working with native peoples.

I agree.

KDCat 07-04-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2279860)
Just wondering, are any of these animals edible? I mean I know that if you had to you could, but would you want to?

Re that comment navane posted, coupling hunting and conservation just sounds kind of like coupling rape and sex education.

In the US, groups like Ducks Unlimited bring a lot of money to conservation and lots of votes. They provide vocal support for conservative politicians to get behind conservation efforts with money and programs. NRA members are a huge voice in US politics and they are very interested in conservation issues because many of them hunt.

In places in Africa, hunting tourism brings money that contributes to the local economy and supports preserving habitat for these animals. I personally wouldn't hunt these animals, but limited hunting provides impetus to preserve important habitat and species.

That said, I sort of hate this chick. She's not educating people. She's not working to preserve habitat. She's not promoting understanding. She's exploiting a cultural divide for her own gain. She's profiting by making Americans scream at each other over a cultural divide. She's a nasty little fame whore who is representative of everything wrong with reality TV.

Hearttoheart 07-04-2014 10:23 AM

You can't really call her a fame whore without calling all of Hollywood and most politicians the same! This obviously is a hobby of hers. Obviously her family encourages this hobby. If she wants to capitalize on this hobby, more power to her!

She wouldn't be darting rhinos to help the local vet fix a broken leg is she didn't have compassion for animals.

My own daughters hunt and often post pictures of themselves with their "trophies" on Facebook. We then process the animals for food and use the hides for pillows, rugs, throws etc. nothing is wasted. Neither of them is looking to star in a reality series. They just want to share with their friends the victories of the hunt.

Don't be too hard on a girl who had been encouraged by her family her whole life to hunt animals. From a woman who's family owns a wild game ranch, there is a such think as responsible hunting and wildlife management.


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