Jay-Z vs Nas
 

I looked at the other forums and didn't find this thread, which shocked me since this is one of the hottest on wax battles out right now!

I was watching the MTV special on this(featuring "man of many doo-rags" Sway:rolleyes: ) and it really put into perspective where this beef started from. Did any of you guys watch it? What do you think of the whole beef going on?

I don't know about about y'all, but I am a NAS fan through and through, I do give Jay-Z credit for bringing out the best in Nas(did I mention how fine he is? lol!)



QTE ;)

Re: Jay-Z vs Nas
 

CTHU, I watched this with some peeps and that was one of the first things they commented on. LOL

My husband tells me the whole drama started over Nas' baby Mama. You know Jay Z supposedly "banged" her and Nas is super teed off.

That is my info......;)


I see a Biggie Smalls vs Tupac over Faith Hill rerun coming. Let us hope this one has a happy ending.:(

I really didn't like MTV's coverage of this battle. First, they made it seem like Jay-Z started it at the Summer Jam Concert. In actuality, the beef started about two years ago. Suposedly, Nas and Progidy kept talking slick about Jay-Z and then smiling in his face.

I have always been a Nas fan, but I think that he's losing this battle. Jay-Z is killing him. Like Jay said all Nas does is "rap rumors and innuendos." He's really not saying anything about Jay-Z.

I don't think that this will escalate to the level that Big and Pac did. They have both said that this is just music. Battling is one of the foundations of hip-hop. It's all in fun. Really, Big and Pac weren't battling because Biggie never responded to any of the things that Tupac said about him.

I didin't watch the whole special but I thought they said it started from Jay-Z hearing NAs saying some unflattering things baout him. on a radio station in LA. But maybe hat was later inthe chronology.

Did they even address the baby's mama thing on MTV? It is all through Jay-z raps. When Nas was on the radio out here (in B-more) they asked him about the baby mama thing. He compared it to Big, Tupac and Faith and said that they weren't fighting over Faith, she just got used in the battle to push buttons- same thing here.

NOPE
 

They didn't talk abou the baby mama thing, but KRS-1 said it on the special "Fact hurts more than the mess talking", and all I know is that the girl works at Rocafella and that is the exact reason why Jay-Z got with her cause she was Nas baby mama.

Even though it's known she "been around" in the industry, I respect Nas because he went on the radio and said "I don't think Jay should have put her in it, she's still my baby's mother and she should be disrespected like that".

Once again, Go Nas!:D


QTE

Lyrically, Nas is the better rapper, hands down. Jigga is more likely to make me wanna get on the dance floor. So I guess I like them both the same, for different reasons.

As far as the battle, Nas is winning in my opinion because of his lyrical content. However, I think the battle could just be to spark more interest (READ: SALES)... and obviously, it's working.

Hype
 

Nas blew Jay Z out the water with "Ether" - his new CD "Stillmatic" is the bomb. 5 mics from The Source. It is worth it - pick that joint up if you haven't already. Nas also wrecks on "Destroy and Rebuild".

Jay Z is lookin' real crazy right now to me. Nas definitely is winning the battle.

NASIR NASIR NASIR!!!!

side note: actually there is a thread on this subject in the Zeta Phi Beta forum

... but, back to the main event.

Nas has it hands down. For those of you who missed it, you gotta take that extra second to LISTEN to the lyrics of "Ether" and you will realize just how severely Jay-Z got SERVED. From past to present he covered things that are in the Jiggaman hall of shame.

Basically, it was a battle for rap supremacy that took a turn for superstardom. It started shortly after Jay-Z, ignored on "Reasonable Doubt" began to gain steam in the industry. But, Nas was still regarded as one of the best lyricist in the game.

Well, with the death of Biggie, Jay-Z knew that there was no one- with his "party rap style" that could touch him when he declared himself the king of NYC. Also, with Nas introducing the Escobar moniker and the train-wreck of the “Firm” LP, as well as “Nastradamus”, everyone pretty much declared that Nasir fell off.

The Baby Mama Drama: Well, that was some silly stuff. Basically, a grown-ass man taking his job way to serious. 1) Chick was a hoe from wayyyyyy back. 2) Nas got himself caught up the situation and, as a grown man did not abandon his seed. 3) Jay-Z saw the opportunity to “layeth the smack down” so that he could say something in a rap afterwards (can someone say “Obsession?”)…. Now, I guess he could get points for that, but really, it’s not like she wasn’t already easy.

Well, I admit to being a little bias as a long time Nas fan. But really, beyond the baby-mama thing Jay really doesn’t have much to say. And, it is obvious that he’s really bad at fighting his way out of a corner. Has anyone heard “Super Ugly”—it was poor excuse for a comeback song and not worthy of a Nas reply.

And yes, "Stillmatic" earned the 5 mics and then some. "All I need is one mic..."

Welllllll...
 

Actually, Jay-Z said that "Super Ugly" was not a response to Nas' "Ether" (which, may I add, is the SHIZZZZNITTT!!)--it was "supposedly" a freestyle recording...

Whateva, maaaaan!! Like Sweetest Diva said, Nas is killing Jay on the lyrical tip, but Jay is killing Nas in record sales (which DO NOT necessarily represent how tight an artist is, may I add).

IMO, Jay "fell off" (aka "Sold Out") after his "Reasonable Doubt" CD...His older CD's have more lyrical content than "I love Girls, Girls, Girls" (WTF?? Could you NOT think of anything else to rap about besides girls, pimping, and your bling-bling?! :mad:

Nas gets mad respect for staying true to his art...

Nas Nas Nas
 

Actually it was. It was hyped up to be by the Rocafella camp. Dang, I'm in Boston and they were running the blitzkrieg ads on the radio out here for it for a munite. They stopped in the middle of the day when it came out just to play "Ether" and then "super ugly."

"Super Ugly" only became a "minor studio freestyle" AFTER it was deemed unworthy of battle by the Hot 97 poll in NYC. Also, the funny thing is, Jay says he doesn't write down any lyrics, so technically, isn't every song a freestyle recording (before he memorizes it).

But I gotta agree, when it comes to record sales its all Roc-a-Fella, and in an industry based on platinum plaques, I guess you gotta respect the fact that he is playing the game right.

I'm sorry, but I don't think "Ether" is worthy at all. It's really not hot. He isn't saying anything and it's nothing that really blows me away. When I first heard "The Takover", I wanted to hear it again. When I first heard "Ether", I wanted that long, boring song to hurry up and go off of the radio.

Let's be real. Before this whole beef and battle, who was paying any attention to Nas. None of his albums were up the standard he set with Illmatic and fans took notice. Lots of people lost respect for him and his record sales were showing it. So, he probably thought to himself "what's a quick way to boost my sales?" He could release a hot album, but since lots of people had already lost interest, its sales probably wouldn't have been any better. The quickest way to boost those sale is to start a battle. And, since Jay-Z is the most popular and best selling rapper, he is the prime candidate.

"Illmatic" was the bomb, and so yeah, his next releases after that didn't reach the super high heights of "Ill", but there are a lot of folks, me included, who were eagerly awaiting his new release and knew nothing about the whole "Jay Z" battle. I heard "Ether" and was like, dang, that's hot, but why is he going off on Jay Z - I didn't know anything about "Takeover". But I'm not just talking about the hype of "Ether" - I"m talking about the entire "Stillmatic" album. "Ether" ain't even the best cut..."One Mic", "Destroy and Rebuild", "Rewind", "My Country"...the whole album is TIGHT (like gnat booty). The beats, the lyrics...Nas came with the FI-YAH!!

The battle with Jay Z ain't got nothin' to do with Nas selling records - he's selling because his lyrics are tight and like he said, "The King is back, where my crown at".

Nas Nas and more Nas
 

Also, most people forget that Jay-Z stole that beef with Nas from Memphis Bleek. Bleek was the first to attack NAS and call him out. But where's Bleek? The little one knew he didn't have what it took to test Nasir, so all of a sudden Jay-Z has a takeover??

Let's remember no one was hearing Jiggaman when he fist came out. Where's that "hawaiian Sophie" tape at, for real. Only when he switched his game up and started imitating the flow of others did he really catch attention. From the day he stepped onto "Live at the Barbecue" Nas's name was forever on the lips of everyone. Even on mis-steps Nas has always had some of the best lyrics and deepest stuff to say.

Most people don't get "Ether" because they had to go look the word up in the first place. Now when last a rapper made you do that? Dang, people still don't see the double entendre in the title, and most can't get past a beat to really see how well crafted the lyrics were--- and how TRUE they were.

Lastly, let me say, Nasir Ben Olu Dara Jones is the ILLEST! ha!:D :cool:

jay-z forever
 

let me say i like nas. i don't own a t-shirt or anything, but he does have a nice flow, but he is not touching jay. he is inconsistent and has never really lived up to his billing. he gets a hot record and falls off for like 5 years. all this beef with jay is just a pr ploy to create some talk about his album to boost sales, period. when you are trying to get to the top, you try to knock off the top guy and that is jay-z. people want to call him a sell-out but he is still true to hip-hop. if you want to discuss pop mtv rappers, holla at nelly. he better not do an unplugged. and really i can't see nas having enough charisma to pull off an unplugged show like jay did.

Hey Peeps,
On today's CollegeClub.com front page is an article about the feud between Nas and Jay Z. Check it out and let us konw what you think if the article:
http://navisite.collegeclub.com/serv...articleid=1458

Re: Nas Nas and more Nas
 

Actually, Nas started the beef with Memphis Bleek. On Bleek's song "Whatchu Think of That," part of his hook was "I'ma ball til I fall / Whatchu think of that." Then on Nas's song "Nastradamus" Nas said "You wanna ball til you fall, I can help you with that /
You want beef? I could let a slug melt in your hat"

That's how everything started. Nas and Bleek were beefing and going back and forth. And, then Nas started involving Jay-Z in everything. Jay had stayed out of it. When he started beefing with Prodigy, Nas started talking about him too.

P. S. My boyfriend is a true hip-hop head. He has a Ph.D. in the subject and talking to him about it is like Hip-Hop 101. Can you tell?

I really don't think this started with NAS... this has been simmering since Biggie died and the whole NYC started running off at the mouth.

Also, I disagree that Jay was staying out of it, he had been on the radio many times talking slick stuff before, as well as on mixtapes, and to whomever would listen. I think Bleek was egged in to replying by the ROC in order to boost his status and put the spotlight on him because his album was not doing well at all.

Bleek had just come out, why would Nas be checking for him??



NAS! NAS! NAS! (hehehehe)

NAS
 

LOL, I don't own a t-shirt either soror. A lot of Jay-Z fans are on the Nas bandwagon, too. But, I never was a Jay-Z fan...I like his SONGS...which ONLY MEANS THAT HE HAS GREAT PRODUCTION. Now, I love "Takeover," ONLY because of the sampling of The Doors (I like The Doors). Nas isn't MTV's favorite rapper, which means that he's not doing the best as far as production and song writing. As far as lyrical substance, Nas runs a labrynth around Jigga. If you told Jay-Z to leave out the negative references to women and the other commercial stuff EVERY rapper raps about these days...he'd have a blank, hot track (void of lyrics).
BTW, Eminem DID murder him on his own s*!!!!!!

Nuff Respect to Nas...but J got him
 

I have to start off by saying I think NAS is on another level than Jay. Jay is a great pop rapper. Nas is a phenomenal ARTIST. Nas is way deeper and has more creative, meaningful, thought provoking songs. As of late, JZ has been coming out with a few songs of substance, but like I said, as far as creativity, thoughts, and depth...he is no where near Nas's level.

That said, I must admit, I think Jay smashed Nas on the DIS tip. Ether was hot. Banging beat, bangin flow, clever wordplay...he talked some good shit. Jays flow was no where near as complex, but he had more clever shit to say that was more than just shit talkin....it was TRUE. Nas talks about how J wanted to be on his classics...JZ has had better success and more consistent classics....so who won?

Nas calls JZ a faggot...whatever
JZ fucked his baby momma..OUCH...so who won?

He talks about Damon being equivelent to P-Ditty
cats like Damon's dance (like Dittys got hot dances)
and Damon is paid (like Puffy)...so where exactly is the Dis?

Nas says Eminem out flowed JZ on his own track....hey..this is Eminem...whiteboy or not...he is one of the Rawest lyricists out...I wouldn't be embarrased if he outflowed me...Eminem is COLD!
JZ said Nas's Bodyguard(Horse) OchyWally verses was better than his....True...who the hell is Horse? Nobody knows who this clown is....his rhymes are garbage. To get outflowed by a no-name wac MC is VERY EMBARRASSING....so who won here?

Nas talked about JZs one skeleton (Hawian Sophie)
JZ talked about Nas's MANY skeletons...The Firm bullshit....Escobar bullshit....Bravehearts bullshit (which was the only wack song on Stillmatic)...basically every album after Illmatic...so who won here?

Nas is my guy...but I gotta be real...he should keep doing his thing but he can't win trying to dis JZ....JZs got too much ammo

lawd...the language...
 

I'm gonna wash your mouth out with soap!!

Now, I'm feeling you on ALL of your points. You're right about Eminem being a HOT lyricist...but, you shouldn't be outSUNG or outRAPPED on your OWN SONG. Never put yourself on a track with others who are more talented than you are (which is why people joked Mya on the Moulan Rouge song with Pink and Christina---anyway).
Jay has talent, and Nas has a lot of high-larious skeletons in his closet. But, Jay has mastered the money game---he knows what sells and does it! Guess what, too----he could give a hothammsammich what any of us think about it.
Jigga Man never officially did a comeback to Ether...what the public THOUGHT was a comeback wasn't. I personally think he only SAID it wasn't a comeback because people were saying that they liked Ether better than the song Jigga did. Ether was just a breath of fresh air for a suffocated-over-JayZ-ed public. Either way, Stillmatic is doing pretty well and "One Mic" is a hot track. Regardless of the rapping bodyguard or ANYTHING else, Nas definitely holds his own...and is a veteran who doesn't need his beef with JayZ to help him with his sells or justify his status.

Forget all these young bucks----when's RAKIM coming back????

Re: lawd...the language...
 

Actually that is untrue. Super Ugly was indeed the official comeback to Ether. It was marketed heavily as such by the Roc-A-Fella Camp. I am Boston, not even in NYC and I heard the buzz. The call-ins from the ROC camp, etc. all promising big things with SuperUgly. But, after, SuperUgly unexpectedly SUCKED big time, Jay recanted his "official" answer and instead now refers to it as a studio freestyle. Maybe only the NE got the full blast of the Roc-A-Fella push, but it was indeed marketed as the Ether comeback that was gonna crush Nas for good.


Also, I could go back to how Nas served Jay royally on Ether, but most people missed it cuz they weren't the no-brainer, one-liners that Jay throws. Nas put History and "bidness" out there, but dang, peeps keep missing it. Dang Nasir, why are so brilliant???

Oh yeah, I'm a big Nas fan :D :D

Rakim.....hmmm, there's this guy at the car wash...:eek:

Re: Re: lawd...the language...
 

That's exactly what I'm saying...he tried to recant the fact that it was a comeback AFTER it flopped---but the public doesn't believe that mess, we know it was SUPPOSED to be a comeback----because, like you said, they had advertised it and made a big deal about it as the "Super-Ugly-Jay Z-Comeback".

Now, WHATCHUGOTTASAYABOUTRAKIM?! Don't nobody better say nothing bad about Rakim. I know, I know----maybe one day he'll comeback (he's like 40 now, or something, though).

What did we miss?
 

Again, I feel and respect Nas over Jigga...
but I must be one of the few cats who think SuperUgly and the Takeover outdissed Nas. I am a TRUE hiphop fan and actually LISTEN to the lyrics. I believe people liked Ether better because the BEAT sounded better the SuperUgly or Takeover. But lyrically (content wise) Jay-Z smashed him (see my previous line for line analysis)

I think I got most of the stuff Nas was talkin about...but maybe I missed something. What exactly was Nas saying that most people "missed"? Put me on StraitBOS

"Also, I could go back to how Nas served Jay royally on Ether, but most people missed it cuz they weren't the no-brainer, one-liners that Jay throws. Nas put History and "bidness" out there, but dang, peeps keep missing it. Dang Nasir, why are so brilliant??? "

Re: What did we miss?
 

Nas is "Anem?"...break it down for me
 

Maybe I'm getting old and loosing touch with the latest slang...but what does "anem" mean?

Nas is nice, and I like him better than Jay-Z.
I'm just giving J props because he DESTROYED Nas in their battle. One victory doesn't make you better than another MC and J is definetly not better.

Like I said, I don't care how many similies (metaphors don't use "like or as") Nas spits. No matter how much science he drops about "ether" and other stuff most cats don't know about. You will ALWAYS loose if you are just talkin shit. Nas talked some good shit. But most of it wasn't true.

Jay-Z wasn't a faggot when he was nuttin inside Nas' baby momma? Rockerfeller was a fag...ok. How many units is Ill Will Records selling with washed up (though respected) acts like MC Shan, Craig G, or Shante?....don't tell me those lame ass Bravehearts?) Surely Nas don't wanna go there...talkin about Record companies.

Nas was right...J wanted to be on every last ONE of Nas's classics....ONE clasic (well 2 now...counting STILL-matic). All Jays albums are classics. Jay may have got chased thru his projects. I supposed Nas never got chased in his life or got his lil ass whooped. Or if he got surrounded by his enemies alone he would just stand like the Braveheart he is....right. In the Bridge is over he talks about his Brother Jungle busting guns to get somebodies chain back...he never said he was bustin shit

AGAIN...what was Nas sayin that was so COLD and DEEP that he got Jay-Z....maybe I missed it. Read my line for line analysis and you be the judge

The only thing better about Ether was the BEAT
...and thats ALL 80% of cats listen to anyway

so if anyone can break it down to me....

Holla!!!!!!!!!

"Cuz my manz anem do their
research!!! Also, Virgos are intelligent people and have the power to withstand and
knock down no-brainer one-liners like the ones Jay-Z throws out. Does that clarify it
for you, APhiAce???" :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused: :cool:

!
 

I dare say you're older (or that much older) than I. Perhaps you're just not cool :p. "Anem"=and them. Hence, "because my manz anem do their research"=my boy Nas and them do their research. And, you're especially not cool with that foul mouth of yours...what's up with that?!
Now, you sound like Jigga's publicist--I see your points, though. For the sake of argument, Nas only got the best of Jay Z (not because of what he said) but because of what he did. He put out a hot album and proved his nay sayers wrong---many people are feeling Stillmatic more than Blueprint. I only listen to two songs on Blueprint..."Takeover" and "Renegade." I only listen to "Renegade" because of Eminem (anem...lol)...Jay Z's flow was awkward and weak for that beat and song...but like Jay said "the sun don't shine, the sun don't shine."
Who has seen the From Illmatic to Stillmatic Tour???

Re: Nas is "Anem?"...break it down for me
 

I don't want you to think I forgot, but I'm working on a semester project so I don;t have the time right now. but I'll get to it over the weekend. I'll also adress SEVERAL of your, uh "misrepresentations."

see ya soon, :D

I have returned...
 

I'm not on the up and up about why they started this war, I do have an opinion to share.

NAS can flow no doubt. NAS has been around the rap industry a little while, also. However Jigga is a grown man (Young VITO voice of the young people). Jigga says that he plays for the team he owns. CAN YOU FEEL THAT! That is the difference between a man and a boy. NAS needs to sit his little young ___ down somewhere and stick to what he knows best, rapping! Jigga has been on his grind since the 80's when NAS was probably wearing Superfriend pajamas with a matching lunchbox.

Nas is like Iverson (player). :p
Hove is like Jordan (owner). :cool:

You tell me the difference.

Oh by the way... Hello lovely ladies of DST. I really miss talking to yall (especially a12deltanu94dst).

Re: I have returned...
 

:eek: :eek: :eek: Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd JESUS, Bobby Earl has returned. You have really been missed. I can unequivocally, categorically say that. Welcome back.

Re: Nuff Respect to Nas...but J got him
 

I agree. Nas can't win playin the dozens. He is a rookie to that game. Hova is a seasoned vet.


NAS does have one of those deep flows that makes you think, similiar to Rakim (if I may be so bold as to say). Jigga, however, has a flow that you can feel no matter where you are at or what you are doing. Besides, anybody that puts a PETEY KLEMENZA (Godfather I) quote at the end of his song gets my ultimate attention.

Feel this:

"Do not step to me... um ackward.. I box lefty.. an orphan.. my pops left me.":cool:

Check JIGGA's flow out on MEMPH BLEEK's "Is that yo chick:rolleyes: " or whatever the name of the song is.

That's the type of flow that anybody can relate to without having to sell dope or kill somebody. Show me a rapper that doesn't always talk about how much weight he is moving or how many people he will kill. I wanna hear a rapper tell me about what most brothers have in Kommon with him. I understand that sometimes you have to do dirt to survive (we all do), but there is more to life than krime.

Re: Re: I have returned...
 

IN THE WORDS OF THE FORMER RACIST, ELVIS P:

THANKYUHVERYMUCH!

Re: I have returned...
 

Hi Bobby Earl. Jay Z is not the owner...how vain of him to even think that. Jay Z has learned how to PLAY the game extremely well, but I shant say he has the ability to own the hip hop game----hip hop goes FAR beyond Roc A Fella or Jay Z's-disrespectin'-women ass. He's actually quite normal...there's nothing abnormal about him---what does he really do that no one else really does? I'd say nothing.
Now, uh...okay, you're absolutely correct Jay Z is 36, but back in the 80s he wasn't on top of his game...he was hustlin' and he made it to being Jazz's sidekick. His flow was a lot faster and different...but Jazz is the Originator of that. Nas is A LOT younger and has been in the actual rap game longer. Jay said it himself...Nas has been in it 10 and Jay has been in it 5. Who cares who's albums were hotter---it's not about what you know but who you know (producers, record company, promotion, etc.). I don't think Jay Z knows a whole lot...we're completely OVERestimating him...but he knows the right people. I'm not mad at him for that, but let's not pretend as if he's doing some stuff that has never been done before. One day (and someday soon, I hope) there will be another MC who everyone's sweatin' like they're sweatin' Jay Z---it's cyclical.

Re: Re: Nuff Respect to Nas...but J got him
 

:eek: everyone pull up your pant legs...there's bullisht ALL OVER the floor :p Yeah, you corrected yourself in comparing Nas to the UNDISPUTED KING of HIP HOP RAKIM...he never has to put out another album...ever...but no one will ever take that from him.
You're right...Jay Z has a flow that you can feel at anytime...that's the epitome of commerical. He has an alright flow...but, since he doesn't talk about killing and his own skills---he resorts to talking about women a whole lot (lesser of the three evils?).
It's really funny that you quoted the song in which Jay Z got torn to pieces by Eminem. I think his flow on that song was weak...but I guess you see the genius in it. Perhaps you had a hard time finding a tight verse from Blueprint--that wasn't coming from Eminem, that is.

HOVE IS A GROWN ___ MAN
 

:D MIKE CHECK ONE TWO ONE TWO... is this thing on?

I compared NAS to RAKIM because I see similiarity in their style. However, RAKIM knew how to get an MC's foot off his neck. So I guess you are right, RAKIM is the undisputed champion.

LAST TIME I CHECKED, commercials sell. There are Kats on the streets who can freestyle with the best of them. There are Kats on the streets that can hoop with the best of them. But people don't wanna hear or see those Kats, they wanna hear this COMMERCIAL flow that you speak of. Yes, HOVE disrespects women. WHAT, NAS DOESN'T? They are both wrong for doing it. Nevertheless, there are women out there who are out to stick rappers for their bread. Hence the phrase, "Let me show you how to walk into a room full of vultures." And even though all women are not like that, that doesn't mean you can't address the ones who are. I do agree that JIGGA should start addressing the ones who are not vultures as well. (Can't see um comin down my eyes, so I gotta let this song cry). I never heard JIGGA say that he treats ALL women like that. Second, yes I chose the RENEGADE song because Jigga's flow is tight. I see a lot of genius in it. True, Eminem was nicer on that song.. so what. NAS was garbage on the uchiwali (spelling) song. Forest Gump could have flowed better than that. His body guard protects people for a living and he was better than the TEN YEAR VETERAN. Who cares if you rap for ten years, if you are puttin out weak sh_ every 5 years. Matter of fact, how can you see that there are no tight verses on the blueprint? Here is the big picture. Last time I checked NAS does not have a RECORD COMPANY. JIGGA owns the blueprint to BLUEPRINT. That is what matters. I guess that's why JIGGA told NAS to "Go play somewhere!"


CHAOSDST please don't take what I said personal. I haven't posted in a minute. Last time I checked, people are awfully sensitive in this camp, so I don't intentionally wanna get anyone upset. It's just a discussion... aight? I don't want CHAOS up in here :D .

Hello to you too, by the way.

Re: I have returned...
 

:D i feel so spayshul! :o ;)

Welcome back Sweetie!

I can agree to THAT...but you gotta Recognize!
 

I'll start of by saying I can FULLY AGREE to your statement that

"Nas only got the best of Jay Z (not because of what he said) but because of what he did. He put out a hot album and proved his nay sayers
wrong---many people are feeling Stillmatic more than Blueprint. "

That is onpoint. Still-MATIC is on another level than the Blueprint II(Nuff respect to KRS-1) ;)

I didn't "get" the "anem" part, initially...
but I got it NOW (thanks for breakin it down)

"I dare say you're older (or that much older) than I. Perhaps you're just not cool"

As far as me not being cool..Please YBASM!
(You Betta Ask SoMebody). Just because I'm Intelligent (I'm a Virgo too) doesn't mean I'm not cool. I DEFINE it...then I make believers outta people...I'm not a follower to what everybody else says and does...I'm the ACE! Numero Uno...the leader up in this Mutha(shut my mouf). Recognize! :cool:

"And, you're especially not cool with that foul
mouth of yours...what's up with that?!"

As for my foul mouth...come on now...we all grown folks (or did you buy the "Target" version of Blueprint and Still-Matic?) You COULDN'T have heard the Grown-Ups version of these albums and in the same breath be outraged by MY language. :confused: Relax. Its realness on your computer screen...nothin more...nothin less. Its all Love though... :)

Re: I can agree to THAT...but you gotta Recognize!
 

The point Soror is making regarding the language is that we watch our language on DST Blvd. and we expect our guests to do the same. Respect our house, please. :)

No problem (My bad)
 

You are right...this is your spot I got to respect that (and I do):)

I didn't think, in light of the subject matter and my analysis of the things said in the battle between Nas & Jay-z, that my language was that offensive. I didn't mean to seem like I was just rattling off "strong" words for the sake of it. Nevertheless, just because I didn't think they were offensive in that context DOESN'T mean that it wasn't offensive. So in the future I'll be more diplomatic and tactful in the way I describe sensitive subject matter. I didn't mean to offend anybody...my bad..nuff respect to you all and much love 4 ya