Chapters at *Conservative* Religious Schools?
 

Does your Fraternity/Sorority have any *active* chapters at schools which have any of the following:
1) Required Chapel (missing more than a certain number can lead to a student being expelled)
2) Requirement of being an active believing member of a specific religion
3) Honor code with Heterosexual intercourse outside of Marriage can lead to expulsion
4) Honor code where any Homosexual activity can lead to expulsion.

ADPi doesn't have any chapters at any schools like that that I know of, looking through our chapter list. Are there any schools that do have national GLOs present? My understanding was that any conservative religious schools that hadn't outlawed Greek life already were probably going to have locals only.

Baylor comes to mind ,but they aren't as *conservative* as they once were. AXO, ADPi, Chi O, DDD, KAO, KKG, PBP and ZTA are on campus.

Union University (Jackson, TN) is the most conservative I can think of -- NPC chapters there: Chi Omega, ZTA and Kappa Delta

Samford University (my sister's alma mater) has required convocation, which is sort of like chapel. Students have to earn a certain number of convocation credits to graduate—they scan your ID card to verify that you attended.

The code of conduct prohibits premarital sex, straight or gay. "Homosexual acts" used to be singled out for punishment, but that wording was dropped a few years back.

Also, social dancing on campus was prohibited until a few years ago—hence the long-running joke:

Q: Why don't Baptists believe in sex before marriage?
A: Because it might lead to dancing.

ETA Greeks at Samford:

http://samford.orgsync.com/GL_chapters

Belmont used to have very strict conduct rules, but I don't know if they do any more or not. They've only had greek life there in recent times.

I have a friend who went to a Big 10 school and (duh) loved it. She is a church goer but also a hard lefty. She really wants her daughter to have a similar (read: raucous) collegiate experience. Daughter wants to attend a VERY conservative school where the girls are required to wear dresses. Holy reverse rebellion Batman!

Union and Samford...
 

Union and Samford definitely meet the criteria. Baylor seems to be on the edge, cohabitation is listed as something that counts as misconduct, but some of the rest seems fuzzy.

Houston Baptist University has required worship and a strict sexual code of conduct. They also have national NPC & NIC greek organizations.

Apparently I stand corrected, then; ADPi has chapters at both Baylor and Samford. I find it interesting that I had to search very hard to find information about Union & Samford's requirements of their students-these weren't requirements splashed across their websites in bold letters or made easily-accessible.

I know that Baylor also has a written policy against homosexuality, so they might be more conservative than they present themselves. Current WNBA player and former Baylor women's basketball player Brittney Griner has said in interviews that her coach explicitly disapproved of her openly expressing her sexuality while she was there.

I didn't think Union was that strict anymore. I have a former student who was a KD there and I know they danced and had parties. She never mentioned being required to attend chapel.

I wonder if Charleston Southern, where ADPi will be colonizing in the fall, is very strict with a moral code. I get that vibe from the website.

Belmont doesn't have any of the rules above. About 20 years ago they had chapel, but now students have to complete about 60 Convocation credits, which is a series of short seminars and community service hours. Students have several years to complete the requirements and only 10 of those credits focus on religion. The only honor code is the basic one every university has about academic integrity. There is a religious requirement for faculty but not for students. Belmont is actually a fairly liberal school school despite what most people think.

Can't believe I forgot Pepperdine. They have national GLOs and forbid sexual activity, possession of pornography, etc. I don't know how strictly they police the kids, but the students are subject to discipline for those activities.

NOPE. If a school discriminates based on religion in its hiring practices, it is not "liberal."

Yup.
From the current Faculty Handbook...
But it doesn't meet the *Conservative* characteristics that I posted at the beginning of the thread (just Conservative rather than *Conservative*, I guess)

Twenty years ago there was way more involved than chapel. There were strict curfews among other strict conduct rules. I'm glad for you that it has become less stringent, but don't kid yourself that you're in an environment that is even fairly liberal.

I wouldn't quite say that. It is possible—both for individuals and institutions—to be liberal as to some things, conservative as to others, and somewhere in between on still others. I'm not saying Belmont is or isn't liberal—I know next to nothing about Belmont—but I'd never say a conservative (but legally permissible) stance on one issue defines an institution over all. Belmont may not be bastion of liberalism, but despite a more conservative view on wanting religious faculty, it could still be "fairly liberal" overall, which was the claim.

I agree. Maybe the poster meant that the student body is fairly liberal?

I don't view it as just wanting religious faculty, I view it as isolating their students from opposing viewpoints.

Shorter University got a lot stricter when the Southern Baptists staged a takeover some 5 years ago and brought in some administrators from Charleston Southern. A huge amount of faculty and students left.

Shorter has Phi Mu, Zeta, and ADPi.

That's how I interpreted it too.

What denomination if any were they affiliated with before?

P.S. "Southern Baptist Takeover" would be a good name for a band.

I guess you could say that they used to be nominally Southern Baptist before.

I get that. I just tend to think lots of things can go into the mix.

But then, I have issues with the labels "conservative" and "liberal" anyway.

I feel like everyone is hung up on two words at the end of a sentence. There was a question being asked about religious schools with a list of examples and Belmont was mentioned. My goal was to say that none of those examples fit the school.

I said liberal because the title of the thread stated conservative. In my eyes, liberal is the opposite of conservative, so the objective of my statement was to point out that the school is a bit more in the opposite direction than other religious schools. By saying fairly liberal, I'm not saying Belmont is this " crazy liberal", "hippie", "super-open minded" or what every other label you want to put on it, type of school. My point is Belmont is not as "conservative" as people perceive it. Being that Belmont is a Christian school one should expect there to be some rules that reflect religious views, but the ones that were stated above do not apply.

Thanks, bu1904. That's what I thought you were saying.

I just got this image of the electric versions of instruments of the bible (Electric Tamborine?)

When my mom went to Baylor, there were room checks on Sunday mornings to make sure you went to church. There were also "spot checks" to make sure you had no alcohol in your room.
(My mom recycled a Ten-O-Six lotion bottle for her bourbon. Click the link if you don't know what Ten-O-Six is.)
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/ten-...l-oily-13.4oz.

The community orchestra I play in rehearses at Oklahoma Christian University, which is a Church of Christ school. That place is uber-conservative. They do have a Greek system comprised of a bunch of locals under school control. Thy have similar strict social codes as some of these other schools.

LOL...the Ten O Six would probably have done the job all on its own and tasted similar without worrying about getting caught by the No-No Po-Po.

Oh, 33, have you ever smelled Ten O Six? :eek:

Oh heck yeah...I've also smelled cheap bourbon :p

Mercer is no longer officially affiliated with the Baptists per their website but it is still a pretty conservative school IMHO.

What about the various "Wesleyan" universities?

I know Ohio Wesleyan has several NPC, IFC, and NPHC chapters. Virginia Wesleyan also has greek life. As to how conservative Wesleyan schools are, that I don't know.

Connecticut, Ohio, and Illinois Wesleyans are not conservative in the sense used in this thread. Don't know about the others.

No, Wesleyan schools are not what this thread is about at all.

Not really, IMHO.