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Phrozen Sands 04-27-2014 11:30 AM

Clippers owner Don Sterling's racist remarks
 
http://youtu.be/YhT6d5fMhzI
http://youtu.be/J6l3NkvpLTQ

Your thoughts?

AZTheta 04-27-2014 11:33 AM

Honestly, there are no words.This is reprehensible, not to mention repugnant, behavior from him. Was he drunk? On drugs? Does he have dementia? Or WHAT?

Those are my thoughts about his words. My opinion: unprintable.

ChioLu 04-27-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2271846)
Honestly, there are no words.This is reprehensible, not to mention repugnant, behavior from him. Was he drunk? On drugs? Does he have dementia? Or WHAT?

Those are my thoughts about his words. My opinion: unprintable.

Don Sterling is none of these. Plain and simple, he's racist.
The NBA needs to force him out like MLB did with (former Cincinnati Reds owner) Marge Schott several years ago.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-27-2014 12:48 PM

Yup. If the NBA has even the barest modicum of respect for its players, they need to throw Sterling out immediately.

NinjaPoodle 04-27-2014 03:44 PM

Sounds like deep-seeded issues he has that he doesn't want to deal with. Sour and bitter.

Kevin 04-27-2014 05:53 PM

He's probably used that language for a long time behind closed doors. When surrounded by armies of yes men, it's probably safe that he didn't think anyone would have a problem with it.

I think we'll probably see how his racial attitudes affect his business practices, and if they do, lawsuits are in his not so far off future.

Sen's Revenge 04-27-2014 06:04 PM

People in my circle are saying the players should quit the team in protest.

Those people are dumb and have never been professional athletes.

ASTalumna06 04-27-2014 06:34 PM

Clippers players stage silent protest:

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/0...ogo-on-shirts/

Quote:

In response to Sterling's purported comments urging a woman to not bring black people to his team's games, the Clippers on Sunday let their uniforms become a show of solidarity.

They ran out of the tunnel for Game 4 of their first-round playoff at Golden State wearing their warmups. Then they huddled at center court and tossed their warmups to the ground, going through their pregame routine with their red Clippers' shirts inside out to hide the team's logo.

Players also wore black wristbands or armbands. They all wore black socks with their normal jerseys.

"It's just us, only us. We're all we got," Clippers star guard Chris Paul could be heard shouting to teammates before they ran out.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-27-2014 06:38 PM

Good for them.

As for Sterling, maybe he can hook up with Paula Deen and open an NBA-themed restaurant where all of the servers...nope, there is no way I can finish this sentence.

moe.ron 04-27-2014 09:12 PM

http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram...c954aa76_8.jpg

SoCalGirl 04-28-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2271885)
People in my circle are saying the players should quit the team in protest.

Those people are dumb and have never been professional athletes.

I'm guessing their contracts would have steep penalties if they quit or boycotted games.

Diamond Girl 04-28-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 2271895)

See, it's dumb stuff like this that people do to be cute, and funny that I don't like. I'm not talking about you, but the idiots in the image.

TonyB06 04-28-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2271858)
Yup. If the NBA has even the barest modicum of respect for its players, they need to throw Sterling out immediately.

They cannot force Sterling out. They can pressure him (again) to sell his team, or I guess, band together to meet his sell out price, but as an owner, it's his team.

NBA doesn't have the anti-trust exemption, which, I heard, was used to help force out baseball owner Marge Schott in the 80s?

I thought Clippers' players response was appropriate yesterday. ABC's repeated shots of Sterling's wife sitting courtside, while they talked about his alleged girlfriend, was brutal to watch.

moe.ron 04-28-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyB06 (Post 2271915)
They cannot force Sterling out. They can pressure him (again) to sell his team, or I guess, band together to meet his sell out price, but as an owner, it's his team.

Steve Ballmer is willing and have plenty of cash to buy. Of course, the Clippers will immediately be called the Seattle Supersonic.

Kevin 04-28-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 2271917)
Steve Ballmer is willing and have plenty of cash to buy. Of course, the Clippers will immediately be called the Seattle Supersonic.

If Seattle doesn't pony up a new arena, I doubt that.

The people of Seattle didn't want the team. That's why it's now (happily) the OKC Thunder.

BasketballFan44 04-28-2014 12:03 PM

Confused
 
As a clippers fan, that just discusses me. I mean, you have a black gf so I don't even know how racist this guy really is. I just don't get it. But I just hope that the clippers don't throw the game because of this. They are playing for themselves at the end of the day, not sterling.

Low D Flat 04-28-2014 01:22 PM

The most racist people in human history didn't have any trouble using black women sexually. In fact, that was part of the fun of owning them. Let's face it -- there's no reason to think that she actually liked him. If he weren't racist, he'd still be an ugly 80-year-old married man not known for his personality. She's a working girl, and he was her employer.

PiKA2001 04-29-2014 12:10 PM

It's hard to determine who was using who. She seems like the classic gold digger and if the allegations are true that she embezzled over $1 mil from Sterling then her true intentions in all of this is questionable.

SydneyK 04-29-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChioLu (Post 2271855)
The NBA needs to force him out like MLB did with (former Cincinnati Reds owner) Marge Schott several years ago.

You got your wish - he's banned for life from the NBA and now owes a $2.5M fine.

amIblue? 04-29-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2272080)
It's hard to determine who was using who. She seems like the classic gold digger and if the allegations are true that she embezzled over $1 mil from Sterling then her true intentions in all of this is questionable.

Her character is no doubt questionable (the timing of the leaked tapes following so quickly after his wife filed a lawsuit against the mistress to me reads that she didn't care about his racism as long as she was getting paid), but that doesn't make his words and actions any less detestable.

thetalady 04-29-2014 02:36 PM

WOW... NBA commissioner came down on Sterling HARD. Nice to see some real punishment. I am assuming that Sterling now has an EX girlfriend, in addition to a soon-to-be ex wife.

Don Sterling thrown out of NBA for Life

DeltaBetaBaby 04-29-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2272080)
It's hard to determine who was using who. She seems like the classic gold digger and if the allegations are true that she embezzled over $1 mil from Sterling then her true intentions in all of this is questionable.

A+ victim blaming, there.

TonyB06 04-29-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2272094)
WOW... NBA commissioner came down on Sterling HARD. Nice to see some real punishment. I am assuming that Sterling now has an EX girlfriend, in addition to a soon-to-be ex wife.

Don Sterling thrown out of NBA for Life

Sterling is worth approximately $1.9 billion (according to reports). The $2.5 mil fine (league maximum) is worth approx $55.90 to him.


I guess there could be a debate about how "real" or "hard" the league has come down.

There are so many layers to this onion....

DrPhil 04-29-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2272105)
A+ victim blaming, there.

Stop using "victim" and "victim blaming" so loosely.

Kevin 04-29-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2272105)
A+ victim blaming, there.

Whaa? She was being sued for embezzling a substantial amount of money and released this recording for revenge when they didn't back down in the civil case.

She's definitely not a victim here.

This is just a mud slinging match where everyone got dirty.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-29-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2272123)
Stop using "victim" and "victim blaming" so loosely.

You're right, I was too quick on the draw there. I should have said "A+ derailment."

DubaiSis 04-29-2014 06:19 PM

I haven't read all the details, but it doesn't sound like there were any victims here. There were people who were douchy, and others who were treated with disrespect, money grubbers and philanderers, but I'm not seeing victims.

I'm glad to see there was punishment even if it won't hurt him very much. What he did wasn't illegal, so throwing him in jail with a bunch of black guys might sound like fun, it wouldn't happen.

PiKA2001 04-29-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2272105)
A+ victim blaming, there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2272126)
Whaa? She was being sued for embezzling a substantial amount of money and released this recording for revenge when they didn't back down in the civil case.

She's definitely not a victim here.

This is just a mud slinging match where everyone got dirty.

LOL! She is far from a victim. Girl stole money from sugar daddy and leaked tapes to embarrass this old guy once she got called out for it. If you listen to the tapes she is more amused by the old mans remarks than offended. If you ask me, they are both assholes who deserve each other. And no, i'm not derailing or condoning the old man, I just find it very interesting that this gold digger had no problems with dating a racist until he decided to sue her for the money she embezzled from him. just saying...

SWTXBelle 04-29-2014 10:14 PM

Sterling could be facing a bigger financial hit
 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...0_million.html

"Let’s run through some quick back of the envelope calculations. By all accounts, the Clippers are far more valuable today than when Sterling bought them in 1981 for $12.5 million. According to the Wall Street Journal, insiders think he could “easily fetch $700 million or more from the sale.” So let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that he makes a full $700 million profit. The federal capital gains rate for high earners is 20 percent, while California’s state rate is 13.3 percent. That’s a $233 million tax bill, leaving $467 million behind."

pshsx1 04-29-2014 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasketballFan44 (Post 2271929)
As a clippers fan, that just discusses me. I mean, you have a black gf so I don't even know how racist this guy really is. I just don't get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low D Flat (Post 2271941)
The most racist people in human history didn't have any trouble using black women sexually. In fact, that was part of the fun of owning them.

He basically says in the phone recording that Latina women should be like delicate flowers. Sterling sees them as exotic playthings. Him being with her is just his fantasy come to life. That doesn't mean (obviously) he actually respects her in any way.

Phrozen Sands 04-30-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2272167)
LOL! She is far from a victim. Girl stole money from sugar daddy and leaked tapes to embarrass this old guy once she got called out for it. If you listen to the tapes she is more amused by the old mans remarks than offended. If you ask me, they are both assholes who deserve each other. And no, i'm not derailing or condoning the old man, I just find it very interesting that this gold digger had no problems with dating a racist until he decided to sue her for the money she embezzled from him. just saying...

Lol @ your edit. But what you said here is pretty much what it is. She's definitely a gold digger, and he's all about the sex.

StealthMode 04-30-2014 02:31 PM

"NBA be like, 'Bye Felicia.'"

Funniest thing I've heard on the radio in a very long time. :p

pshsx1 04-30-2014 08:51 PM

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Under the lifetime ban, Sterling is prohibited from attending NBA games or practices, stepping foot inside any Clippers' facility, taking part in business or personnel decisions, or having a role in league activities such as attending NBA Board of Governors meetings.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/us/cli...rling-scandal/

DrPhil 05-02-2014 11:33 AM

I don't wish ill on anyone but it is no coincidence that they are report Sterling is battling cancer. I wish him well but this release is probably done for two reasons: (1) if you're going to release "private info," release his health info; and (2) buffer the negative public image.

I understand some people's issue with something said in privacy being held against someone. The question is when is something "private."

Kudos to the NAACP no longer honoring Sterling. It is too bad the president of that NAACP chapter resigning.

MuBlue 05-03-2014 10:10 PM

I don't know why Sterling didn't just make a (fake) public apology, and then wait about 6 months until it all blows over. It seemed to have worked for Paula Dean. I know her views on us are still the same today as they were before she "apologized". But people moved on from it.


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