Phyllis Schlafly Has Relationship Advice
 

This seemed more fitting in this forum than the news forum.

Phyllis Schlafly Claims Women Paid the Same as Men Won't Find Husbands
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5154150

ETA: http://m.christianpost.com/news/fact...rness--117959/

***
Dear Women Feminists and Men Feminists of the World:

Stop messing with natural order and God's design. Lest we forget https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kORINpVUEtE and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Dyzm8L6cU

Sincerely,
Sarcasm

Bwahahaha. Phyllis Schlafly is a relic, and continues to prove it every time she opens her mouth.

I honestly thought she was deceased. Guess not.

I've always wished she would practice what she preaches and stay at home.

I did too! I am so bad about that kind of thing.

Is her viewpoint in the minority or majority? Is it considered outdated? Do younger generations not subscribe to that?

Reading the article, I think her logic is faulty. Even if somone subscribed to her viewpoints, her "ergo" conclusion is a stretch.

I've always made more than my husband, and this has been a non-issue. If he was the kind of person for whom this was an issue, I doubt we'd have ended up together. I just don't think as many people are as worried about this as what Phyllis thinks.

My mom is of Phyllis's generation, and has had many choice words to say about Phyllis over the years.

I've always made more than my husband because I have 2 more degrees. It has been a non-issue; I think he's just glad for the money.

In the seventies, I was at an agricultural convention at the U of Missouri and a female master's student there commented, "You're working on your doctorate? You'll never get a husband." :confused:

Her niece and co-author http://suzannevenker.com/

I personally don't care whether my future husband or I makes more money, as long as we're both well-off and financially stable. I would guess that many of my peers feel similarly to me in this regard, though I can't speak for everyone.

Also, I have never heard of this Phyllis Schlafly woman before, and all I can think of every time I read her name is Phyllis from The Office. I cannot shake this association.

I don't need a husband, I'm going to keep a couple of 20-somethings in constant rotation by buying them nice jewelry and kicking them out when I feel like eating frosting straight from the can.

I miss The Office. :(

Would it help if Phyllis had some Bible quotes to back this stuff up? That would prove she isn't making this stuff up. It is factual and comes from an authoritative long lasting source.

Her niece supposedly speaks to the younger generations. I think there are generations of people in this country and around the world who agree with this crew. Some of these people may talk a good game but their life mirrors what Phyllis and crew are saying.

Look her up. She's a "famous" anti-feminist. If it is meant to help women, she is against it.

What always bothered my mom about Phyllis is that she made a career out of doing exactly what she preached women shouldn't do. She certainly wasn't staying at home...she was running around telling everyone that women shouldn't work, while running her organization, running for office, writing books, working the lecture circuit, etc. What a hypocrite.

Looks like her niece is just as much of a self-promoter.

ETA: I should clarify that my mom was fighting the good fight as a 1950s era college graduate...one of only 3 women in the business school at Michigan State, and she had to deal with a lot of blatant male chauvenism. One of her father's brothers actually asked him why they were wasting money sending a daughter to college. It really irked her that Phyllis was running around building her business on the premise that other women should stay at home.

Too true! Sometimes it's hard to see with that big plank in your eye. :D She is what she proclaims is wrong in the world.

Some of the prominent women of the early homeschooling movement were all about home businesses, home church, etc., and they were always yammering about how women should stay home. Yet most of them, one in particular, were so immersed in their businesses that there's no way that they got to spend the vaunted "one on one time" with their kids.

I can not stand hypocrites.

I agree.

Although this is always presented as anti-feminism, this was also a big socioeconomic and race (and other demographics) divide in the feminist movements and the foundation for other feminist movements such as Black feminism. The argument over whether women should go to college and work was not a battle that working class and poor white and racial and ethnic minority women were fighting.

Then you had people fighting over whether womanhood should be defined as motherhood and wifehood. In 2014 people still have difficulty balancing freedom to marry and/or reproduce with social force and obligation to marry and/or reproduce.

******

I should've made this a poll so GCers could vote on whether they believe this ideology. I swear there are still a lot of people in the USA and around the world who believe this.

ETA: I added this to the OP: http://m.christianpost.com/news/fact...rness--117959/

The best comment in the comment section:
"Phyllis is, as usual, confused. It's equal pay for equal work. If women choose to work fewer hours, then less pay is warranted. But Phyllis is blinded by her conservatism."

You can count my vote. I'm against her.
But on the same subject, my boyfriend Neil DeGrasse Tyson spoke on just this issue recently (or recently seen by me anyway).
http://www.upworthy.com/neil-degrass...m-follow?c=gt1

My perception of Phyllis is that she has largely focused on a very narrow demographic -- middle to upper-middle class white women whom she would perceive as having a choice about pursuing a career or staying home. People like her. Reading this piece, she still seems oblivious to the fact there are women who must work, who don't want to be/aren't/can't be dependent on a man, who go to college for a purpose of pursuing more than a MRS degree, or that there is whole world of women who are different from her. She is just plain out of touch with reality.

She is anti-matter to my matter.

Bumped for StealthMode

With the luxury of choice, I do think it's better for A parent to stay home. But for most Americans that is such a luxury that it just seems mean to accuse a woman of being a bad parent if she doesn't do what she can't. Like telling a person they can't be attractive if they aren't tall. Well thanks for that but there's no way I'm ever going to be tall or independently wealthy.

The problem is, when one parent stays home, the spouse with an income has more power in the relationship. It would be nice if that weren't the case, but someone who gives up his or her career, no matter how much they want to do so, is valued less by society. In these United States, having no money puts you at the mercy of others.

^^^ As my divorce clients, both men and women, know only too well.

*side eye*

This 12 year old girl has an amazing response to Phyllis. She is one young lady who we will see become a mover and shaker when she gets older.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...d?detail=email

DaffyKD

Kristie Allsopp drinks the Kool-Aid:

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...ity-baby-by-27

Bump because Susan Patton reminded me of this thread. Patton isn't saying the same thing but there is a gender correlation.

I've made more than both my husbands, because I have more degrees and certifications. Husband #1, in fact, got a bigger share of the house proceeds when we divorced because I made more. (He had a college degree, but chose not to use it.) I didn't like it, but I guess it was fair because when women make less, they get more in the divorce settlement. (I was lucky he was due to inherit some money from his parents, otherwise I would have had to pay his lazy ass alimony.)

Even if I had chosen to have children, I would have worked. My parents raised me not to rely on anyone but myself for support and I'd be uncomfortable letting someone else pay my way since I would feel like I was at their mercy as DeltaBetaBaby said. That's just me, though.

Here, here!! :)

I read a comment months ago from an idiot who believes birth control was the downfall of humanity; women's rights and gender equality are against God's Will and humans shall suffer. Have we not learned from Adam and Eve (which many people take literally and not anecdotally)? :)