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A rather sadly odd hazing at Univ. of Conn.
My jaw dropped when I first heard of this. This is so far out of dumb, dumber and dumbest. Down right stupid and so unnecessary. Why did a Fraternity get itself involved in a Sorority hazing? http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...249127751.html
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The really strange thing is she is a current sister. This indecent took place Thursday, she woke up Friday in the hospital and by Friday night she was giving interviews on the news. I am not saying it did not happen, or does not constitute hazing, but the whole situation is very strange.
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No, just that she was getting interviewed on the news about three hours after getting released. I would absolutely expect that she reported it immediately, to both the University and to the police. The news stations she also contacted at the same time. I would expect to be shaken up, and exhausted from being in the hospital, not necessarily being interviewed by four news stations the same day I was released. I applaud her for speaking out about the incident, the timing it just all really fast.
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This part of the second article was interesting to me.
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Nice victim blaming, guys!
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Minus the alcohol**, there are GLOs in which some of these types of things are part of tradition. That includes fraternities and sororities handling each other's "pledges."
It can still be considered hazing in certain environments and especially since this article deals with NPC and IFC GLOs that tend not to have this practice. But some of you need to realize that there is a world outside of what you are accustomed to. **Some NPC and IFC chapters have engaged in "physical hazing" but NPC and IFC are more likely to engage in "alcohol hazing." |
Probably the hospital not she made the initial call to the police. And either the police or the hospital could have called the media.
And I wouldn't consider them shaming the victim. Here's the scenario I picture: Cop: have you ever been hazed? Vic:no Cop: have you ever been made to drink when you didn't want to? Vic: well,umm, yes. Cop:have you ever been made to do anything embarrassing or humiliating? Vic:well, there was that one time... Cop: you were hazed. |
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I do not know anything about the KKG Chapter but the SAE house is far from being one of our oldest Chapters. And no matter how one looks at it, the actions by the Brothers of the house, The Chapter, The Brotherhood violated everything and anything one can think of in terms of RM, ethics, morals, code of conduct, policies and more than likely a few laws ginve the information from current news reporting. Which perhaps why is is outside of the what we are accustomed to. And expect from our members. Or is your comment more innocent than I took at first glance? Are you talking about "Big Brother/Little Sister" type events? |
That goodness they ran into an RA when they tried to dump her at the dorm who had enough sense to make them take her to the ER. This could have been a tragedy rather than just an embarrassment and possible charter review for these chapters. If that woman had been left alone in her room with alcohol poisoning, she clearly could have died.
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If she was an active when this occurred, it can still be classified as hazing but the implications are different.
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That is what I feel. There seems to be more to this story than is being initially reported. I am from CT and it has literally been on every news station every night since Friday with different snippits and slightly different information. I am interested if these two chapters have gotten in trouble together before, it seemed to have been insinuated by one of the stations. It is surely just a strange (and clearly unfortunate) story. And yes, thank goodness for good RA's.
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This sounds like underground little sister pledging and zero to do with the sorority, other than that they probably hang out with the SAEs together.
On another note, I had to AAAAGGGH when I saw that "the station reached out to the sorority. " This is the latest bit of corporatespeak to annoy the piss out of me. |
When our organizations first started cracking down on hazing in the late 80s/early 90s, chapters thought they'd get around it by having opposite gender orgs haze their pledges instead. We called it cross-hazing. They would have "pledge exchanges" where they swapped pledges for a night. It didn't last long.
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When people research pledging and hazing across GLOs, hazing investigations and responses to hazing allegations become less about shock and awe that humans would engage in certain behaviors. |
I don't know.... at least about the sizzling like bacon on the floor part.
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Sizzling Bacon
I was going to link to a YT video of the Dazed and Confused scene but all the other video links that came up on the sidebar made feel like I need to shower. And I agree, it sounds like Fraternity Little Sister hazing more that Sorority Sister hazing. |
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UConn Temporarily Suspends Sorority, Fraternity As It Probes Hazing Allegation http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...,7720546.story
UConn Fraternity, Sorority Suspended After Hazing Allegations http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...mobile=o&nms=y UConn, state police investigate sorority sister's hazing allegations http://www.wfsb.com/story/24936604/u...ng-allegations Story has links to the letters sent to both SAE and KKG by UConn's Office of Community Standards |
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I've heard of and personally witnessed another fraternity hazing sorority new members. This was about 10 years ago, so I have no idea if it's still going on, but back then, it definitely was.
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ETA: Plus, keeping hazing hush hush is hard enough within one chapter. Why add another and double your chances of getting caught? And I'm not condoning hazing... it just seems that a chapter that's doing something illegal and wanting to keep it secret would try a little harder to do so. |
But 18-22 year olds are 10 feet tall and bullet proof .
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Methinks that risk management education may be a highlighted point in the extension presentations ....
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isn't UConn in the process of expansion and presentations currently?
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Uconn has a really great system, a great Office of Fraternity and Sorority Affiars and I am confident the University is working with the national orgs to understand what happened, why it happened, and what the appropriate sanctions will be (if any)
There are lots of rumors right now but everyone needs to wait and see what the official investigation has to say. |
I doubt it will make much if a difference. UConn is a good school, and I think most people have that "We know how to prevent this nonsense" bravado. That mentality does not go away with age.
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UConn Sorority, Frat Members Won't Be Charged In Alleged Hazing Incident-MANSFIELD — State troopers and state police detectives who investigated allegations of hazing against a University of Connecticut sorority and fraternity found no reason to file criminal charges.
Prosecutors in Superior Court in Rockville agreed with those findings and declined to bring any charges against members of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity and Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority. http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...,6039516.story |
UConn Fraternity Suspended For Hazing Incident
Sigma Alpha Epslion is the second Greek organization to be suspended at UConn in less than a week. http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...258980531.html UConn Suspends Fraternity In Hazing Incident http://www.courant.com/community/man...,3647990.story UConn Sorority Shut Down Over Forced Drinking, "Sizzling Like Bacon" Hazing http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...258401371.html UConn Sorority Investigated For Alleged Hazing Loses Registration http://www.courant.com/community/man...,4243590.story |
I also posted this in the colonies/expansions thread, but it looks like KKG is planning to appeal:
http://www.newsday.com/news/region-s...sion-1.7982108 |
I don't think it warranted removal. The member alleging hazing was initiated and 21. If the hazing was peer pressure and persuasion to drink I'm not sure I think that's hazing.
If a girl was at a party and her friends put pressure to drink, that girl wouldn't turn around and cry hazing. I feel as thought this got labeled hazing because the girls giving pressure were members of the same group. Also it bothers me she went to the news before KKG, UConn etc... |
Was so tempted to start a thread for this related article. So much to pick apart in it.
How Kappa Kappa Gamma Threw A UConn Sorority Sister Under The Bus Kappa Kappa Gamma got kicked out of UConn after a sorority member blamed her sisters for booze-fueled hazing—and now everyone’s blaming the victim. http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...r-the-bus.html |
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Im confused, do you agree or disagree with the article? Also TSM has an article up with a letter from a member of the chapter. http://totalsororitymove.com/heaven-...a-nutella-bar/ |
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