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ASTalumna06 03-08-2014 01:47 AM
Malaysia Airlines Jet Vanishes
 
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...40308?irpc=932

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KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing went missing over the South China Sea on Saturday, prompting China to send ships to scour the water for possible wreckage.

The airline, speaking several hours after the plane had been due to land in the Chinese capital, said it was still too early to say whether the aircraft had crashed. It said there had been no distress signal and it cited early speculation that the plane may have landed in Nanming in southern China.

As news of the disappearance filtered through to distraught friends and relatives who had been waiting for the flight to arrive in Beijing, Malaysia Airlines said it was still investigating and took no questions at a brief news conference.
How horrible :( Hoping that they find the plane in one piece!

Thoughts are with the families of all those on board the flight.

unarose 03-08-2014 02:28 AM
Via @cctvnews on Twitter:

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Vietnamese Navy confirms that flight MH370 crashed into sea near Tho Chu Island in Kien Giang Province, Vietnam #BREAKING (People's Daily)
And from tuoitrenews.vn, there's this:

Quote:
According to a High Command of Navy statement, the plane went down at the waters between Vietnam and Malaysia, some 153 nautical miles (300km) off Tho Chu Island in Kien Giang Province.


The Naval Zone 5 is ready for the search and rescue mission.


There were no immediate reports of casualty.


The flight MH370 disappeared at 2:40 am local time (1840 GMT Friday), about two hours after leaving Kuala Lumpur International Airport, according to AFP. It had been due to arrive in Beijing at 6:30 am local time (2230 GMT Friday).


It was carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, from 13 different nationalities, and 12 crew members. China's state television said 158 of the passengers were Chinese.
The official Malaysia Airlines page for the incident is here. According to them there were actually 14 nationalities represented on board.

pinapple 03-08-2014 09:59 AM
So very sad. Three Americans on board including an infant. I suspect a little family of three :(

AGDee 03-08-2014 11:14 AM
The manifest is posted on the Malaysian Airlines site. Those identified as USA are (the number is their age):
MENG/NICOLECHD USA 4
WOOD/PHILIP USA 51
ZHANG/YAN USA 2

It doesn't appear that they are all from the same family. I would guess that the children are children of Chinese nationals who live and work in the US so they were born in the US.

moe.ron 03-08-2014 10:06 PM
The plot thickens:

Quote:
Uncertainly over the fate of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was further compounded Saturday by reports that two men whose names matched those on the passenger manifest had reported their passports stolen.

Malaysian authorities apparently did not check the stolen documents on an international law enforcement agency database, CNN has learned.
After the airline released a manifest of the 239 people on the plane, Austria denied that one of its citizens was on the flight as the list had stated. The Austrian citizen was safe and sound, and his passport had been stolen two years ago, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss said.
Similarly, Italy's foreign ministry confirmed that no Italians were on the flight, even though an Italian was listed on the manifest. Malaysian officials said they were aware of reports that the Italian's passport was also stolen but had not confirmed it.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/08/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1

PM_Mama00 03-09-2014 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2264731)
The manifest is posted on the Malaysian Airlines site. Those identified as USA are (the number is their age):
MENG/NICOLECHD USA 4
WOOD/PHILIP USA 51
ZHANG/YAN USA 2

It doesn't appear that they are all from the same family. I would guess that the children are children of Chinese nationals who live and work in the US so they were born in the US.
I just read that Philip Wood is from Livonia.

IndianaSigKap 03-09-2014 01:58 PM
This entire story is getting more convoluted by the day.

ASTalumna06 03-09-2014 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 2264838)
I just read that Philip Wood is from Livonia.
?

I believe he's from Texas, outside of Fort Worth.

ETA:
http://news.yahoo.com/american-fathe...205115030.html

AGDee 03-09-2014 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 2264838)
I just read that Philip Wood is from Livonia.
Closest thing I've seen to that was an interview with a former IBM co-worker who is now in the "Detroit area".

PM_Mama00 03-09-2014 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2264857)
?

I believe he's from Texas, outside of Fort Worth.

ETA:
http://news.yahoo.com/american-fathe...205115030.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2264866)
Closest thing I've seen to that was an interview with a former IBM co-worker who is now in the "Detroit area".
Yeah I'm sorry. He was from Texas but they interviewed his friend that lives in Livonia. I got that confused.

ASTalumna06 03-09-2014 06:15 PM
The biggest mysteries of the missing plane:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...y?id=22838958#

I've read on multiple sites that they're looking into 4 IDs being questionable. Two of them are the stolen passports mentioned above (by moe.ron), but it doesn't appear that details have been released about the other two suspicious passengers/IDs.

ASTalumna06 03-10-2014 03:04 AM
This story is driving me crazy! Every time I think they've found something, someone says, "No, nevermind.. it was nothing."

I just came across this story that said they may have found a door to the missing jet… but I searched for other sites reporting the same thing, and they say the story regarding the door has been discounted.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03...ing-23-people/

Something of interest, though:

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European authorities on Saturday confirmed the names and nationalities of the two stolen passports: One was an Italian-issued document bearing the name Luigi Maraldi, the other Austrian under the name Christian Kozel. Police in Thailand said Maraldi's passport was stolen on the island of Phuket last July.

A telephone operator on a China-based KLM hotline on Sunday confirmed to The Associated Press that "Maraldi" and "Kozel" were both booked to leave Beijing on a KLM flight to Amsterdam on March 8. Maraldi was then to fly to Copenhagen, Denmark, on KLM on March 8, and Kozel to Frankfurt, Germany, on March 8.

She said since the pair booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines, she had no information on where they bought them. The ticket purchases reportedly took place almost simultaneously, and the tickets were numbered consecutively, according to the BBC.

ASTalumna06 03-10-2014 09:58 AM
Oil slicks not from missing jet:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...ors-say-n48826

DubaiSis 03-10-2014 01:40 PM
We're dealing with 3 countries who are not big on sharing bad news. Unless they find some verifiable good news, don't expect much information.

KSUViolet06 03-11-2014 06:59 PM
I seriously cannot watch the coverage.

It freaks me out like an Unsolved Mysteries episode.

Like, I can hear the creepy theme/opening music in my head.

Well, that, and I cannot understand how no one knows anything about a PLANE CARRYING ALMOST 300 PEOPLE.

Cheerio 03-11-2014 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2265146)
I seriously cannot watch the coverage.

It freaks me out like an Unsolved Mysteries episode.

Like, I can hear the creepy theme/opening music in my head.

Well, that, and I cannot understand how no one knows anything about a PLANE CARRYING ALMOST 300 PEOPLE.
It's an episode of LOST.

thetalady 03-11-2014 08:16 PM
I know the ocean is a big place, but seriously.... NOTHING? I am thinking that this plane was hijacked & flown right into the ocean. No other explanation that I can come up with for it to have changed direction with absolutley no communication from the flight crew.

ASTalumna06 03-11-2014 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2265148)
It's an episode of LOST.
Or it's the Langoliers…

I keep checking back to many of the major news stations throughout the day to see if there's a new development, but I find myself not believing anything I read anymore. There are so many conflicting reports, and I can't tell you how many times I've read some new information, and then a few hours later read an article that says, "Yea, what we said a few hours ago.. that's not true."

They're now claiming the plane may not have only changed course, but may have also flown a couple hundred miles in a different direction before "disappearing", hence the widening of the search area.

carnation 03-11-2014 09:03 PM
As the daughter of a plane crash victim, I know only too well what the families are going through. :( :( I pray that they have some answers soon.

ASTalumna06 03-11-2014 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2265159)
As the daughter of a plane crash victim, I know only too well what the families are going through. :( :( I pray that they have some answers soon.
:( I can't imagine. And it's awful that these people don't even know what happened to their loved ones. They're left to mourn without any answers.

ASTalumna06 03-11-2014 11:47 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-mili...ml?.tsrc=attmp

Quote:
Many experts have been working on the assumption there was a catastrophic event on the flight — such as an explosion, engine failure, terrorist attack, extreme turbulence, pilot error or even suicide. The director of the CIA said in Washington that he still would not rule out terrorism.

Flight MH370, carrying 239 people, took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12:41 a.m. Saturday, bound for Beijing. Authorities initially said its last contact with ground controllers was less than an hour into the flight at a height of 35,000 feet, when the plane was somewhere between the east coast of Malaysia and Vietnam.

But local newspaper Berita Harian quoted Malaysia's air force chief, Gen. Rodzali Daud, as saying that radar at a military base had tracked the jet as it changed its course, with the final signal at 2:40 a.m. showing the plane to be near Pulau Perak at the northern approach to the Strait of Malacca, a busy waterway that separates the western coast of Malaysia and Indonesia's Sumatra island. It was flying slightly lower, at around 29,528 feet, he said.

"After that, the signal from the plane was lost," he was quoted as saying.

A high-ranking military official involved in the investigation confirmed the report. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose sensitive information.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/gs...nes_140311.jpg

ASTalumna06 03-13-2014 01:10 AM
Grieving the Unknown:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...l-limbo-n51221

Quote:
Because after a death, there are a prescribed set of rituals, according to your culture: throwing a handful of dirt on the coffin, or spreading the ashes in a favorite place of the deceased. All of these rituals have a purpose, helping the person process the grief. But with the missing — when a person is simply, mysteriously gone — the people left behind are helpless. Any ritual or burial or memorial has to be purely symbolic.

This was Sue Scott’s life for 45 years, since Dec. 30, 1969, when her brother’s plane went missing in Laos.

“Even though the flame of hope is so minute after so many years, you never quite give that up,” Scott said. “I think you’re always hoping for them to walk through the door. I don’t think that ever goes away. Some miracle will happen and they will walk through the door.”

moe.ron 03-13-2014 01:29 AM
It's interesting to watch different coverage here in Asia. Been watching the local, regional, BBC and CNN. The local and regional are obvious focusing on the search and rescue with their reporter on the planes and boats looking. BBC pretty much straight forward reporting on the latest news. CNN seems to be trying to hype up the story. Yesterday it was all about Iranian link terrorism, today seems to be about suicidal pilots. The terrorism angle was paraded by a lot of the reporters and politicians, angling it so Iran was responsible.

DrPhil 03-13-2014 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2265159)
As the daughter of a plane crash victim, I know only too well what the families are going through. :( :( I pray that they have some answers soon.
:( Heartbreaking.

Quote:
Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 2265367)
It's interesting to watch different coverage here in Asia. Been watching the local, regional, BBC and CNN. The local and regional are obvious focusing on the search and rescue with their reporter on the planes and boats looking. BBC pretty much straight forward reporting on the latest news. CNN seems to be trying to hype up the story. Yesterday it was all about Iranian link terrorism, today seems to be about suicidal pilots. The terrorism angle was paraded by a lot of the reporters and politicians, angling it so Iran was responsible.
I tend to change channels when CNN starts talking about this. For instance, I'm watching the CNN morning show and the guest "co-host" went to a commercial break and said they will discuss the plane. She had this really annoying cutesy bubbly voice and said "what are they using to find this missing plane, you ask?" That voice and cutesy joking tone are disrespectful. This isn't a game. This isn't an episode of Scandal.

Thankfully, Chris Cuomo came from commercial break and gave this story the tone that it deserves. Of course they are still talking about stolen passports because the American media is more inclined to focus on the international politics and terrorist conspiracy aspect.

Munchkin03 03-13-2014 10:25 AM
CNN is to real journalism what McDonald's is to real food.

Since we're in Whistler for vacay, we've been catching some of the CBC coverage. A lot more balanced and a lot less sensational than Crisis News Network.

ASTalumna06 03-15-2014 04:26 AM
Jet's Movements Indicate 'Deliberate Action,' Search Areas Refocused:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...focused-n53316

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Authorities said for the first time Saturday that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 veered sharply off its flight plan because of “deliberate action by someone on the plane,” communicated with satellites for hours after it disappeared and might have ended up thousands of miles away.

Prime Minister Najib Razak stopped short of saying that the plane was hijacked. He said that the investigation would concentrate on both the passengers and the crew.

“I wish to be very clear,” he said. “We are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate form its original flight path.

”His disclosures, at a press briefing in the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur, represented the first big break in the investigation since the plane disappeared a week ago, with 239 people on board, on an overnight flight to Beijing.

AOII Angel 03-15-2014 10:54 AM
This is getting even MORE crazy. What in the world would they do with a jetliner in the Andaman Islands?

moe.ron 03-16-2014 11:17 PM
CNN got way too many anonymous source close to the investigation giving wrong answers. It went from mechanical error to Iranian bomb plot to pilot suicide to pilot hijacking he plane in less then a week.

ASTalumna06 03-19-2014 07:32 PM
Search Drastically Narrows in Hunt for Lost Plane:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...975958&ts=true

Quote:
American and British aviation officials have refined satellite signals from the missing Malaysia Flight 370 and created two possible flight paths that dramatically narrow the scope of the search to an area off the coast of Australia.

The two possible paths have the plane heading toward the South Pole and ending, experts believe, off of Australia.

U.S. officials familiar with the investigation tell ABC News that the hourly satellite pings from the jet had yielded far more clues than expected, enabling the focus of the search to be cut in half - from an area roughly the size of Texas to that of Arizona.

Calculations by UK and US experts had now been handed over to the Australians to help with the search.

ASTalumna06 03-20-2014 01:04 AM
'Best Lead': Possible Parts of Missing Jet Spotted Off Australia

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...stralia-n57296

Quote:
An Australian satellite spotted two objects in the southern Indian Ocean that could be related to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, Australian authorities said Thursday in what they called "the best lead we have" in the mysterious case.

Abbott told Parliament on Thursday afternoon that he had spoken to Malaysia's prime minister about the objects.

The objects were spotted in satellite imagery about 1,500 miles off the coast of Perth, John Young, emergency response general manager for the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, said at a news conference Thursday afternoon. The objects are "indistinct," but the larger of the two appears to be about 78 feet across, he said.

Young and Abbott said more analysis was needed before it could be determined whether the objects were, indeed, from Flight 370, but Young called the discovery "the best lead we have right now."

ASTalumna06 03-24-2014 01:20 PM
Malaysia Airlines flight plunged in ocean, no hope for survivors:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=23033246


Quote:
New satellite data reveals that missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 "ended" its journey in a "remote location" of the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said today.

"This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean," a somber Razak said during a media briefing.

andthen 03-24-2014 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2266857)
Malaysia Airlines flight plunged in ocean, no hope for survivors
That is so sad for all of those who were affected by this. At least the crash victims loved ones will now have some closure and will no longer be in limbo wondering and waiting. I hope that they will eventually be able to determine what caused the crash.

ASTalumna06 03-24-2014 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andthen (Post 2266883)
That is so sad for all of those who were affected by this. At least the crash victims loved ones will now have some closure and will no longer be in limbo wondering and waiting. I hope that they will eventually be able to determine what caused the crash.
The waiting was painstakingly hard, I'm sure, but now these poor people still may always wonder why their loved ones died. I imagine they're relieved (for lack of a better word) that they have confirmation of the plane's ultimate fate so that they can grieve "properly" and learn how to heal, but never having an explanation would weigh on anyone.

RIP to those who were on board. Here's to hoping more can be uncovered in the following weeks, months, and possibly years.

DubaiSis 03-24-2014 04:21 PM
The one thing about the the airlines is they won't call this a tragedy and just stop. They will keep searching until they find the plane and more importantly the black box and learn an amazing amount about what happened.

It is a travesty that all of these people now get to live in a fish bowl while people watch them cry and be devastated. My suggestion to you if you agree is 1-change the channel and 2- send an email TELLING them you changed the channel.

ASTalumna06 04-01-2014 01:53 AM
Interesting that this took 3+ weeks to reveal:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...-flight-n67871

Quote:
Officials have revised the account of the last words that came from the cockpit of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 — the latest about-face in the ever-shifting investigation into the jet's disappearance.

The Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation said Monday that the last communication with the air traffic controller was "Good night, Malaysian three seven zero."

Weeks earlier, officials reported the last words were: "Alright, good night."

The cause of the discrepancy was unclear.
Has anyone been following this as closely as I have? I'm now at a point where I don't even really click on stories anymore; I'm just waiting for the huge headline reading "Debris pulled from ocean linked to lost plane" or "Fuselage found". Until then, it seems the stories are just a way to get clicks on a page.

The one thing that I did find curious: Last week, all planes and ships were headed to a point off the coast of Australia where a lot of debris had been spotted. It seems as though nothing was pulled out of the water before more debris was found hundreds of miles north and the theory of the flight's speed changed, and then the entire search moved northward as well. Why not follow the other leads they previously had? Why not try to track down the initial debris that was spotted and try to identify it? Did I miss something?

Cheerio 04-01-2014 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2268361)
Interesting that this took 3+ weeks to reveal:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...-flight-n67871
Perfect. The newest quote is ambiguous.

PiKA2001 04-01-2014 02:57 PM
This story isn't going anywhere, It's just too bizarre to fall off the radar (no pun intended). None of the explanations or theories of what may have happened completely add up so if they aren't able to recover the black box in a decent time and manner to get the data off of it flight 370 will be the greatest aviation mystery since Amelia Earhart (sp?).

AGDee 04-01-2014 07:35 PM
I agree Pika. Nothing adds up. I heard some report a day or two ago that a US ship with the ability to pick up the black box ping was just heading out to help. Have they really not had any ships with that ability out looking already?

moe.ron 04-01-2014 11:02 PM
Since no one else gonna say it, i'm going to say it: What if it's Aliens?

SoCalGirl 04-01-2014 11:26 PM
Arya, we all know that god like brothers on a mystical island are to blame. #duh


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