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IvyDeviness 01-17-2002 02:43 AM

Inaccurate "Famous" Fraternity Members
 
How do you feel about Fraternities and Sororities "making up" famous members to make their organization look good.

I have seen alot of "Suspect" members.

For instance...lets be real...

Fredrick Douglass is NOT an ALPHA...he was dead WELL before 1906

Paul Lawrence Dunbar was NOT a Que
he also died well before 1911

Quincy Jones is NOT an ALPHA or a Que

George Washington Carver is NOT a Sigma

etc.

And why do our organizations make honorary members? I know many will disagree but that practice seems rediculous to me. There are plently of influential members who CHOSE our organizations and went on to do great things...why are we "handing out" memberships to other accomplished black people. They sould have to SEEK OUT the letters like everyone else....Let me know what you think

APhiAce 01-17-2002 02:57 AM

Made up Famous members
 
Alpha Phi Alpha as NUMEROUS Famous members who all CHOSE Alpha on their own accord. We have NO need whatsoever to make people up.

Of course Fredrick Douglass is not an Alpha. Everyone knows you can't make someone a member without them accepting or declining. But his writings influenced the founding of Alpha and we hold him in high regard.

I don't remember anyone ever claiming Quincy Jones to be an Alpha...where did you here that one. I don't think he is in any Greek Org.

DOVE1920 01-17-2002 01:03 PM

Why lie?
 
Well it seems that the purpose of having honorary members is to bring exposure to the organization. It also allows for people who didn't attend colleges or universities the oppurtunity to belong to our organizations. (Although Zeta has an auxillary for women who aren't college graduates). But yes I do have a problem with people making up members. I think its sad and stupid. Some people will just go with misinformation instead of calling IHQ to hear the truth.

FYI Bro. Carver is a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity. check the website: www.pbs1914.org

sphinxpoet 01-17-2002 04:53 PM

Re: Inaccurate "Famous" Fraternity Members
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IvyDeviness
How do you feel about Fraternities and Sororities "making up" famous members to make their organization look good.

I have seen alot of "Suspect" members.

For instance...lets be real...

Fredrick Douglass is NOT an ALPHA...he was dead WELL before 1906

Paul Lawrence Dunbar was NOT a Que
he also died well before 1911

Quincy Jones is NOT an ALPHA or a Que

George Washington Carver is NOT a Sigma

etc.

And why do our organizations make honorary members? I know many will disagree but that practice seems rediculous to me. There are plently of influential members who CHOSE our organizations and went on to do great things...why are we "handing out" memberships to other accomplished black people. They sould have to SEEK OUT the letters like everyone else....Let me know what you think

With all due respect not all things are as obvious as the seem:

ie Fredrick Douglass has a special connection to Alpha even though he died before it's founding.(Look on our national website he is listed as a brother)

Alpha no longer makes honorary members period...........

ps How do you know Quincy Jones is not affiliated?(just curious)

IvyDeviness 01-17-2002 08:30 PM

How can a DEAD MAN Pledge?
 
With all due respect not all things are as obvious as the seem:

ie Fredrick Douglass has a special connection to Alpha even though he died before it's founding.(Look on our national website he is listed as a brother)

Alpha no longer makes honorary members period...........

ps How do you know Quincy Jones is not affiliated?(just curious)

I don't mean to ruffle any feathers. But please explain to me how a DEAD man can pledge? (Fredrick Douglass).

What is to stop the Kappas, Ques, Sigmas, or Iotas from making Fredrick Douglass a member of their frat?

You don't see us saying Harriet Tubman or Nefertiti or Mary the Mother of Jesus is an AKA...that would be ludicrous.

Besides...how do you know he would accept being named an Alpha anyway. Many people in have a problem with secret organizations.

He was a great man...but come on...lets be for real....dead men CAN'T PLEDGE!

Also NO ALPHA has been able to answer:
what school/chapter did Quincy Jones get made at?

SweetestDiva 01-17-2002 09:55 PM

Re: How can a DEAD MAN Pledge?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IvyDeviness
I don't mean to ruffle any feathers. But please explain to me how a DEAD man can pledge? (Fredrick Douglass).

What is to stop the Kappas, Ques, Sigmas, or Iotas from making Fredrick Douglass a member of their frat?

You don't see us saying Harriet Tubman or Nefertiti or Mary the Mother of Jesus is an AKA...that would be ludicrous.

Besides...how do you know he would accept being named an Alpha anyway. Many people in have a problem with secret organizations.

He was a great man...but come on...lets be for real....dead men CAN'T PLEDGE!

Also NO ALPHA has been able to answer:
what school/chapter did Quincy Jones get made at?

'Scuse me, frat... but lemme see if I can make sense of this. ;)

Soror, what sphinxpoet said was that Frederick Douglass had a connection to APhiA, not that he "pledged" or was an honorary member. Come by the AKA forum and introduce yourself. ;)

Sisterly,
SD

sphinxpoet 01-18-2002 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IvyDeviness
With all due respect not all things are as obvious as the seem:

ie Fredrick Douglass has a special connection to Alpha even though he died before it's founding.(Look on our national website he is listed as a brother)

Alpha no longer makes honorary members period...........

ps How do you know Quincy Jones is not affiliated?(just curious)

I don't mean to ruffle any feathers. But please explain to me how a DEAD man can pledge? (Fredrick Douglass).

What is to stop the Kappas, Ques, Sigmas, or Iotas from making Fredrick Douglass a member of their frat?

You don't see us saying Harriet Tubman or Nefertiti or Mary the Mother of Jesus is an AKA...that would be ludicrous.

Besides...how do you know he would accept being named an Alpha anyway. Many people in have a problem with secret organizations.

He was a great man...but come on...lets be for real....dead men CAN'T PLEDGE!

Also NO ALPHA has been able to answer:
what school/chapter did Quincy Jones get made at?

Thank you soror! I did not think Quincy Jones was frat I just asked where they got that idea that he was? Secondly certain things are secret to Alpha. How Fredrick Douglass is recodnized as a brother is an Alpha Phi Alpha thing........I respect you questioning it but I must say that Alpha did not fall onto the planet on Dec. 4th 1906.............Many things happened before. I would not expect a soror to tell me all things about the secrets of Alpha Kappa Alpha....In my head I may say....."why is abc like this" but I realize that that is an Alpha Kappa Alpha secret that I am not privy to.........I respect the fact that you are challaging the norm that is an indication of a proactive mind and a strong woman.

Sphinxpoet

The Original Ape 01-18-2002 02:31 PM

clarification
 
I feel you on the topic!

It's a good one; but let me try and clarify something. Frederick Douglas' connection with my frat is this: he was the uncle of one of our founders, and was sympathetic to the idea of an Afro-centered fraternity. You can find this out in a book entitled: "Henry Arthur Callis, His Life and Legacy."

I have never heard any brotha mention "Q" as an Alpha, Omega, or anything.

Brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha can find out easily if a man is a bruh. Our national files have been computerized for years.

Dexter 01-18-2002 04:38 PM

Re: clarification
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape
I feel you on the topic!

It's a good one; but let me try and clarify something. Frederick Douglas' connection with my frat is this: he was the uncle of one of our founders, and was sympathetic to the idea of an Afro-centered fraternity. You can find this out in a book entitled: "Henry Arthur Callis, His Life and Legacy."

I have never heard any brotha mention "Q" as an Alpha, Omega, or anything.

Brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha can find out easily if a man is a bruh. Our national files have been computerized for years.

Besides we don't need to CLAIM anybody as long as we have ME:p

DoggyStyle82 01-18-2002 04:43 PM

Re: Inaccurate "Famous" Fraternity Members
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IvyDeviness
How do you feel about Fraternities and Sororities "making up" famous members to make their organization look good.

I have seen alot of "Suspect" members.

For instance...lets be real...


Paul Lawrence Dunbar was NOT a Que
he also died well before 1911

Quincy Jones is NOT an ALPHA or a Que

Let me know what you think


No where is it ever listed that Paul Laurence Dunbar is a member of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity. Neither is Quincy Jones. He has never been mentioned as a member. Where did you get that? We have more than enough famous members than to be making some up.

lovelyivy84 01-18-2002 05:59 PM

she has a point
 
I have heard that each and every one of the men she listed was members of thses organizations, as well as things like Jasmine Guy being a Zeta.

Things like that are all over the internet, in fact if you look at chapter webpages every once in a while you will see this error made, although I THINK that I have mostly seen it claimed on listserv's, etc.

sphinxpoet 01-18-2002 07:40 PM

Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
I have heard that each and every one of the men she listed was members of thses organizations, as well as things like Jasmine Guy being a Zeta.

Things like that are all over the internet, in fact if you look at chapter webpages every once in a while you will see this error made, although I THINK that I have mostly seen it claimed on listserv's, etc.

And no one disagrees with that soror....a lot of people are said to belong to this Org and that Org. I went to a home page where it was said Jesse Jackson is a Sigma when I was an Intrerest! I was like WTF but you can rarely trust a list of prominant greeks unless it comes straight from the National Headquaters......If I had a dime for everytime someone said this person was this and this person was that and they were not I would have a couple of dollars right now! :p

Sphinxpoet

lovelyivy84 01-19-2002 07:33 PM

Re: Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sphinxpoet


And no one disagrees with that soror....a lot of people are said to belong to this Org and that Org. I went to a home page where it was said Jesse Jackson is a Sigma when I was an Intrerest! I was like WTF but you can rarely trust a list of prominant greeks unless it comes straight from the National Headquaters......If I had a dime for everytime someone said this person was this and this person was that and they were not I would have a couple of dollars right now! :p

Sphinxpoet

LOL, too true! It seems like more often than not I hear about these famous "members" from over-enthusiastic interests who are going OUT of their way to make sure that everyone knows their choice and why their choice is the bestest choice ever, lol!

CrimsonTide4 01-19-2002 07:46 PM

Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
although I THINK that I have mostly seen it claimed on listserv's, etc.
Over the years since I have become a Delta, I have been on a listserve and every so often you hear/read some of the MOST OUTLANDISH people suggested to be members of one of the 9.

Examples include but are not limited to
Sean "Puff Daddy" "P Diddy" Combs being either a Kappa or an Alpha
Tisha Campbell being an AKA
Whitney Houston being a DELTA :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

dirtymike1906 01-21-2002 01:17 PM

clarification echo
 
Don't hurt em OA!

And for the record, no one ever pledged Alpha to be in the company of famous people. ALL our bruhs are famous!

lovelyivy84 01-21-2002 01:21 PM

Re: Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4


Over the years since I have become a Delta, I have been on a listserve and every so often you hear/read some of the MOST OUTLANDISH people suggested to be members of one of the 9.

Examples include but are not limited to
Sean "Puff Daddy" "P Diddy" Combs being either a Kappa or an Alpha
Tisha Campbell being an AKA
Whitney Houston being a DELTA :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

Naw girl, I got you BEAT!

I heaaaard that Sisqo was a Kappa.

Now ain't that some isht? Given that homeboy didn't even go to college and all? WTF??

CrimsonTide4 01-21-2002 01:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84


Naw girl, I got you BEAT!

I heaaaard that Sisqo was a Kappa.

Now ain't that some isht? Given that homeboy didn't even go to college and all? WTF??

Well I'll just be dayummed.:eek: :eek:

Steeltrap 01-21-2002 01:58 PM

Re: Re: Re: she has a point
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84


Naw girl, I got you BEAT!

I heaaaard that Sisqo was a Kappa.

Now ain't that some isht? Given that homeboy didn't even go to college and all? WTF??

Sissyqo?

Oh, my Jaysis. This is beyond.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

AKA2D '91 01-21-2002 03:43 PM

RE:Sisquo

I heard that, also. I think it came from the fact that one of his bodyguards was a Kappa. Therefore...

I think the Tisha Campbell thing came from an episode of Martin where she redecorated his apartment (P&G) and "Gina" says that those were the colors of her "sorority"...:rolleyes:...IT'S TV, PEOPLE, TV! :rolleyes: FICTION, MAKE BELIEVE!

CrimsonTide4 01-21-2002 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
RE:Sisquo

I heard that, also. I think it came from the fact that one of his bodyguards was a Kappa. Therefore...

I think the Tisha Campbell thing came from an episode of Martin where she redecorated his apartment (P&G) and "Gina" says that those were the colors of her "sorority"...:rolleyes:...IT'S TV, PEOPLE, TV! :rolleyes: FICTION, MAKE BELIEVE!

Kellie Shanygne Williams as of the MOESHA episode is a DELTA.:rolleyes:

Thanks to Sister Sister episode, VESTA is a DELTA. :rolleyes:

Again TV = Fiction = Make Believe = NOT true.

Dexter 01-21-2002 04:13 PM

Kiesha Knight Pulliam a.k.a. Rudy from the Cosby Show is a Delta!

Some of my bruhs met her at the greek picnic in Philadelphia a couple of years ago and she was neo'd out with all of her nelia on!

fatto 01-21-2002 05:30 PM

I heard that Dennis Rodman is a Sigma;
Little Richard is a Kappa;
and Bookman (from Good Times) is a Que!!!

Professor 01-22-2002 09:46 AM

Are you talking about Little Richard that sings Good Golly Ms. Molly - - - ?

DST Love 01-22-2002 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dexter
Kiesha Knight Pulliam a.k.a. Rudy from the Cosby Show is a Delta!

Some of my bruhs met her at the greek picnic in Philadelphia a couple of years ago and she was neo'd out with all of her nelia on!

Yeah, she's the deuce from Spring 99 line at Spelman. I pledged Spring 99 at Sigma Chapter (Clark Atlanta University). And of course all of the AUC (Atlanta University Center) Deltas may be at parties and events from time to time. So I know she's legit.

Honeykiss1974 01-22-2002 10:35 AM

Ok, Here is my addition to the "Famous Bruhs" of the BGLO...

I heard that Rick James was a Sigma......

Steeltrap 01-22-2002 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Ok, Here is my addition to the "Famous Bruhs" of the BGLO...

I heard that Rick James was a Sigma......

CTFU. CTFU. CTFU.
ROFLMBAO.
"He's a super freak, he's a super freak, he's super freaky now. Temptations sing....Whoa whoa whoooa whoa." I couldn't resist this one.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ideal08 01-22-2002 01:23 PM

Re: Re: clarification
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dexter
Besides we don't need to CLAIM anybody as long as we have ME:p
Oh my goodness. lmao

Honeykiss1974 01-22-2002 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steeltrap


CTFU. CTFU. CTFU.
ROFLMBAO.
"He's a super freak, he's a super freak, he's super freaky now. Temptations sing....Whoa whoa whoooa whoa." I couldn't resist this one.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

OMGoodness Steeltrap!! I knew somebody was gonna crack on him!!!!

sphinxpoet 01-22-2002 01:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: clarification
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08


Oh my goodness. lmao

Most Famous GC Members?

Alpha Phi Alpha: Orignal Ape
Alpha Kappa Alpha: AKA2D
Kappa Alpha Psi:
Omega Psi Phi: DoggyStyle
Delta Sigma Theta:Crimson Tide4
Phi Beta Sigma:
Zeta Phi Beta: Pretty Kitty
Sigma Gamma Rho: Ninja Poodle
Iota Phi Theta:Iota Net

Honeykiss1974 01-22-2002 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatto
I heard that Dennis Rodman is a Sigma;
Little Richard is a Kappa;
and Bookman (from Good Times) is a Que!!!


OMG :eek:

"BOOGA" is rumored to be a Que??


http://www.plaudersmilies.de/happy/roflmao.gif

AKA2D '91 01-22-2002 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974



OMG :eek:

"BOOGA" is rumored to be a Que??


http://www.plaudersmilies.de/happy/roflmao.gif

Ya'll are KOO-KOO.

Well, "Grady" a.k.a Whitman Mayo (RIP) was a Kappa.

DoggyStyle82 01-22-2002 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatto
I heard that Dennis Rodman is a Sigma;
Little Richard is a Kappa;
and Bookman (from Good Times) is a Que!!!

Bookman from Goodtimes aint seen nary bit of Omega Wood. It has been rumored that Marvin Gaye is an Omega. We were taught that when I was on line, but I've never seen proof.


Sigma>>>>Maurice White of EW&F and Lionel Richie. I've heard multiple orgs for both.

ALPHA>>>> is W.E.B DuBois an initiated member? I've always admired Alpha for its many members of the Black Intelligentsia:D

DoggyStyle82 01-22-2002 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91


Ya'll are KOO-KOO.

Well, "Grady" a.k.a Whitman Mayo (RIP) was a Kappa.


And Rog from "What's Happenin'". I wanna know what the hell was happenin' when they let him on line. Bet he wasn't saying "I'm pretty on my right, I'm pretty on my left" lol.

nube one 01-23-2002 01:42 AM

I peeped former General President Milton Davis on Lionel Richie's behind the music; they said he was a childhood friend. Needless to say I was bugged out.

Dexter 01-23-2002 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
ALPHA>>>> is W.E.B DuBois an initiated member? I've always admired Alpha for its many members of the Black Intelligentsia:D
Yes, Brother W.E.B. DuBois is a member of A PHI A!

Ideal08 01-23-2002 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
And Rog from "What's Happenin'". I wanna know what the hell was happenin' when they let him on line. Bet he wasn't saying "I'm pretty on my right, I'm pretty on my left" lol.
LMAO!!! :D

JJSP01 01-23-2002 04:43 PM

Crackin' UP!!!!
 
Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
And Rog from "What's Happenin'". I wanna know what the hell was happenin' when they let him on line. Bet he wasn't saying "I'm pretty on my right, I'm pretty on my left" lol.




Falling out of my chair, laughing my ass off!

APhiAce 01-23-2002 07:19 PM

Sigma>>>>Maurice White of EW&F and Lionel Richie. I've heard multiple orgs for both.

ALPHA>>>> is W.E.B DuBois an initiated member? I've always admired Alpha for its many members of the Black Intelligentsia:D [/B][/QUOTE]

______

W.E.B. DuBois was initiated into an Alpha and was very active with the org.

Lionel Richie is a documented Bro. of Alpha as well

"All great men aren't Alphas, but all Alphas are GREAT MEN!"

SeriousAKA 01-26-2002 12:07 PM

Re: How can a DEAD MAN Pledge?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IvyDeviness

You don't see us saying Harriet Tubman or Nefertiti or Mary the Mother of Jesus is an AKA...that would be ludicrous.

[/B]
How come one of my LS thought Harriet Tubman was a soror AND the reason she thoght this because her RA (an Alpha) had a bulletin board up and claimed it to be so. So I just had to chuckle when I read this.

Six_Three_Sigma 01-29-2002 09:45 AM

Greetings all,

I just wanted to say that you definitely should not believe everything that you hear. But you should not discard everything that sounds suspicious before you look into it. If you're really that interested in it, go and find out the truth. I am sure everyone here would like to know. There is some truth in EVERYTHING you hear.

That said, George Washington Carver IS a man Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, INC. (I know he has passed on.) From what I know of my blue history, he was very active in Sigma. (So, he was not one of these members who crossed the burning sands and thought that it was over.)

I also heard Rick James was a Sigma. Is he a Sigma? I don't know. When I was seeking the "light" his name never came up as a member.

Now for all of the uninitiated in the blue and white, I don't expect you to know that nor do I expect you to believe me. If you're really interested, go to our website and take a look at it.

Brother Carver's name is there.

Peace


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