Girls Gone Wild (Topic continued from Playboy Thread in Greek Life)
 

Ok, the ladies were asked what do we think about the 'Girls Gone Wild' videos? I have one word for what I think about it....FAKE! but to me its more funny then anything. I havent seen it (and probably never would) but when I see the commercials for it a few things come to mind...
1) There is no college in its right mind that would let a camera crew film this in their dorms.Why? Its called a big fat sexual harassment lawssuit. We know this isnt just some little video camera thats going in.
2) What chapters of a fraternity would actually let people video tape this stuff knowing their letters are going to be seen somewhere? (Then again some sororities and faretrnities have posted many things on the net that I thought I'd never see) Also Ive been to some crazy fraternity parties and none of that stuff ever happens or was I just oblivous to it?
3):rollseyes: What person in a showersees a camera , giggles and goes "How long have you been there?"

Some of these girls dont look like they have anything to be going wild about anyways. If its real (I somewhat doubt) then hey do what you have to do. Im not gonna lie and say I dont know people who wouldnt do some of the things like flashing (my friends and I did it once all in a good night of fun and it was a dare) and kissing another girl.
It is what it advertises, a cheap video thats probably not even worth the 9.99 you pay for it, thats probably worth a good hour of laughter more than anything else.

My ex forked over his $15 + S&H (I think that's what it cost) for GIRLS GONE WILD and SORORITY GIRLS GONE WILD.

Not that I'm trying to be a critic or anything...but if I were a guy and I expected to see hot and heavy action, I'd think that these videos were a ripoff.

I've seen the videos and it's nothing but Mardi Gras boobie flashing with an occasional shot of girls kissing each other. Throw in some butt grabbing and rubbing with some alcohol and there you go folx...GIRLS GONE WILD.

SORORITY GIRLS GONE WILD is basically the same thing. I watched the part in its entirety because I wanted to see if any of the drunken girls would reveal their GLO affiliation. Thankfully, I didn't see anyone in their letters...but one girl did admit that she's an XYZ. Sorry, I don't think it'd be appropriate to reveal which GLO she belongs to.

Just my 2 cents.

well the girls are nice to look at, but the videos are like boring porn...
sae at my school was supposed to have them at their big party this fall, but they backed out.

I actually heard a radio interview with the guys who do the tapes, and when it started, it was just them filming random people. Like Mardi Gras, they would just go up to girls and say that it was for their own video thing, and the girls would just flash them. And sometimes they wouldn't even have to ask... Here's my question: what happens if a girl watches the tape and sees herself on it? Did she technically give them permission to film her? Even though they said it was for a home movie, was that still permission? and what about judgment being impared? Just some questions...

If it isn't a signed release form, I am pretty sure it isn't permission even if they verbally say yes because there is no proof of them agreeing.

I agree with Sandy. I havent seen them but they sound like they're low budget/trash porn. If your going to do something like that at least do it right and do it all the way. Then they wouldnt have had to deal with this legal mess. Bow chicka wow wow....

Look at that Pro Cheerleading squad in PA(it was on the today show last week). I forget what team it was but man is that a crazy situation. 27 NFL teams being sued for being a peeping tom.

There is a lawsuit about this now. Read about the article in the Carnival thread - www.greekchat.net/gcforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13776



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Oh wow. Your right. My bad. I should have searched. Thanks AOIIRose :) Where have I been.

My boyfriend downloaded a bootleg from the internet. It was basically like watching MTV Spring Break without any of the censoring. More marketing than anything. :rolleyes:

I heard the girls in the video were really porn stars. Ick...

The Sorority Sweetheart thing tempted me to buy the videos, so I could see what letters were in it. ;)

But even if they are real, and the shots were taken from Mardi Gras....umm, girls get a life! I think it is so "white trash" to do things like that. (Reiterated from the "Playboy" thread) I'm sure these girls would defend their actions as "but I was drunk and having fun!" BLEH!...... If you need to be that drunk, you suck. If you need to show off your boobies, you're stupid and no guy would take you home to his parents. If you like that attention, you need to take a course in gaining self-esteem.

Ok, that's all for now. Sorry I'm so....blunt. It just disturbs me when I see women who have no respect for the wonderful creatures they are.

It was the Philadelphia Eagles' cheerleading squad.

Thanks :)

Yeah, I agree with the "trash" sentiment. You all know from the other thread how I feel about Playboy, but this is a lot different to me. I agree that a lot of it is fake. Unfortunately there are so many girls out there desperate for attention that if some guy came in with a camera and said "Hey girls, I'm filming for 'Girls Gone Wild 3' so let's see what you got!!" you know that there would be a bunch of them trying to get themselves noticed. While I would certainly be willing to pose for Playboy, there is no way in Hell I would be caught dead flashing my boobs for some stupid cheap plastic beads or anything like that. Look at those broads on the MTV Spring Break!!!! It has made me pretty sure that I will never let my kid go on Spring Break on my dollar!!! I know that there are going to be some people who say, "What's the difference?" But there is a difference, at least to me. I sure hope my daughter is never so lacking in self-esteem that she starts flashing herself all over town in hopes of getting some male approval.

Well said, Erika!

ok, im not trying to start something here, but are we saying that people who have flash lack self-esteem???
If thats the case, then I guess I do. And many girls who i thought had the highest amounts of it do. Its funny though cuz I always considered my self to have a very high self esteem. I didnt think I was doing it for a males approval, but it was just to have fun and get a rush.
My point is...why is it (and I realize ive done this too) that when people do something that we wouldnt do ourselves, we say they have low self esteem?
And whats up with the "white trash" comments lately? Isnt it get as trashy to dish that saying out? Im in the stage of my life where im beginning to think its stupid to judge people just because you wouldnt do something that they did (some little that is). These girls are having a lil bit of fun, and if they get caught on camera, well thats on them and they need to deal with it (of course as someone said Im not going to be crying a river for them). What it all comes down to is that we all have our own definition of what things are cool and not cool, but we shouldnt judge each other on it. You're seeing the outside not the inside.

Hey UMgirl, I agree...what's going on?

Although I think it is in bad taste. These girls are usually college age on vaction blowing off steam. Sometimes peolpe forget what it is/was like in school. We call do crazy things, these girls might have been a little too crazy for me, but regardless they are young and I bet if they ended up on tape they wouldn't do it again.

It's hard to judge people if they are drunk and on a break, you know that's not an everyday thing.

Ok, forgive me if I am having a "senior moment" here and forgetting the facts, but Lexi weren't you the one who thought that posing for Playboy was just so morally wrong and awful and God knows neither you nor any of your sisters would do something like that???? But walking around on the street flashing your tits is just a good fun way to blow off steam? Sorry to be a total bitch but if that is the case then your "morality" might be a little bit screwed up.

UMGirl.....I just don't know. In my own experience (and in a number of professional observations by people far more qualified than myself) people who feel compelled to try and draw attention to themselves are not usually doing so because they want to be called ugly or fat or flat-chested or whatever. They are seeking approval of some sort, be it whoops and cheers from the guys or else a neckful of silly plastic beads to show off and say "Look what I got!" And generally speaking, people who are self-assured and high in self-esteem do not feel the need to seek that attention....at least not in such an inappropriate manner. Whether it is just in good fun or not, exposing one's body out on the street or in a club or other public place is inappropriate, plain and simple, not to mention the fact that it can get you arrested. I'm not saying that there aren't girls out there who just think they're hot sh*t and like to show off, but classically, the majority of these people aren't like that.

To each his own.....:confused:

SAE at USC had a pornographic film created at their chapter house. Some SAE's from my university took a road trip to visit their brothers and take in the refined entertainment.:rolleyes:

Yes, it is bad to judge people. I'm very guilty of it. It's human nature to pass judgements....doesn't make it right, but it happens. *shrugs*......But I feel that when you are putting yourself on a video that's being advertised on television, you are setting yourself up to be criticized or admired for that matter. And there are consequences for behavior, especially ones that are videotaped. (Check out Rob Lowe's life!)

I always weigh my actions in the sense of is what I'm doing going to embarrass my parents? "Having fun" should not make ANY parents' question how they brought their children up.

LexiKD, im glad that we agree on something ( ;) ), even though like ErikaXO, im a lil confused by it b/c of your opinion about playboy. But I know at times we view things that are kind of in the same category differently.

ErikoXO, i understand where you're coming from completely. Its just that in my opinion, you have three categories of ppl who do this. One, like you said is the girl who is seeking approval from men because she doesnt have much self esteem for herself. Then theres the "God I am so hot, and look better than anyone else, so Im gonna show my stuff" girl, who just does it to be a B&%$@ in a way. These make up the majority. Then you have the last group that just does it b/c its like a girls night out of fun and people get a rush off being silly, people start daring ppl and so on. Its one of those time were you just wanna let lose and get a little rowdy.(That would be my situation, cuz I definately know im not the hottest thing out there, everyone has different taste, but I have a great self esteems to know, yeah I do have faults (who doesnt)but im make the best of what I have knowing that Im not unattractive either but your average decent girl)
I think what just got me going a little was the white trash comments ( i hate anything that refers to race in a neg tone) and the fact that it seemed to generalize that all girls who do sucj stuff have little to no self esteem. But like I said you have a very good and valid point! :D

One of my buddies said that some girls he knows from high school were in one of the GGW videos from PCB. He said at the time they were under 18.

Also, another friend bought the first GGW DVD online or whatever, and then he was away from home for the summer. They kept sending more videos, part of the purchase agreement I'm sure, but he wasn't around to send them back, so he ended up with all of them being charged to his credit card. i really don't think he minded keeping them though :)

Damn Erika, Tell us what you really think, don't keep holding back . . lol

pbpck: Good for SAE! great college momento:)

Moxiegirl, I hope your parents embarrassed themselves a bit, its part of living life. If you never have a risque moment, you never pushed life's envelope and always allowed yourself to be circumscribed the way other people want you to behave . . . often while they are out doing what they are preaching against!lol

The self esteem issue really doesn't come into play unless the person is being pressured into it against their will. So they are really unwilling to flash but peer pressure makes them do it.

Alcohol induced flashing is a whole nother matter.;)

Now doing it and then getting all righteous and indignant because people are watching you or commenting might not be real rational.

As for the videos, they are pretty entertaining. I think I'll take a video camera to my next spring break and see how far we can push the envelope.

UMgirl, I get you totally. Didn't mean to "attack" or anything, I was just kind of foaming at the mouth over other people's comments....

Lexi did you get my PM.......didn't mean to attack you either....being a very frank and blunt person (thanks James!) I detest hypocrisy or perceived hypocrisy

Ok, point taken. I guess it's one thing to embarrass your parents, and another thing to make them feel as if they didn't raise you right. *shrugs*

(At the water cooler)

"Hey, I umm.....saw your daughter on the GGW video.."

"Wha, wha, what??!!"

(uncomfortable silence)


I think it's the whole "behavior on videotape" part that bothers me more than the behavior.....

Or maybe I'm just bored and want to argue..

Either way, I'm going back to bed. Debates are cool. So are opinions. *blows kisses*

Ok Here goes: Yes I have issues regading Playboy and Pornography. These other "girls gone wild" type things are during a time in a person's life when we all have done some crazy things. Some crazier than others.

BUT: Sending in pictures to intentionally be nude in a national publication is different. Similiar but different. There has to be some consideration for intent. The women in playboy and such are sober/willing participants and the "girls gone wild" are college women on break not in a sober state, not thinking about the responsibility of anything much less their letters.

I work a lot with our college members and they think very differently then I do and so I have learned to think from their point of view on some issues. I wouldn't suggest flashing anything, but in these cases they are usually not under normal circumstances. It doesn't make it better, just different.

Erika: I never said Playboy was about moralitiy, it was about your choice to subject your family/organization to that type of publicity.

You all may be interested to know that a few months ago, some guy was arrested for filming two under-aged girls(13 years old-15 years old). He claimed they lied and said they were over 18. The tapes were supposed to be for a Girls Gone Wild-type tape. It was filmed somewhere in the Florida Panhandle during Spring Break time. Seems the parents found a tape & saw some of it. They took it to the police. It was in our local paper because it was only a few counties away.

Oh wow that really sucks, that can be up to 20 years in prison depending on the state. Unless its a federal statute.

yeah, if the crime occured across state lines then yes it would be a felony if it was on the books. CJ major here. Sounds like they are definitely going to be potentially facing a lot of time.

I have seen one of these "films" - I was under the impression that they went to spring break places and gave video cameras to kids and told them to tape parties and getting drunk etc - the production people went along with them, but its the kids that actually filmed it.

I especially hate it when these Girls Gone Wild video commercials have a "Sorority Sweethearts" bonus!! As if the stereotype isn't bad enough these stupid commercials exploit sorority girls as bonuses! :p