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babynolegirl 02-20-2014 01:50 PM

"Sitting on a bid"
 
I recently participated in spring rush because I did not rush in the fall. I got a bid from a house I really like, but since I can't afford it this semester, I opted to pledge in the fall.
Now I don't know if I made the right choice waiting because I feel like they dropped me and I don't know what to do.

33girl 02-20-2014 02:06 PM

Are you keeping in touch with the sisters? Are they keeping in touch with you? They shouldn't just lock you down and then forget about you.

Titchou 02-20-2014 02:33 PM

Ummm...I'm not aware that they can do this. You either accept it or you don't. I wouldn't count on it being there in the fall. Personnel can change and it's possible no one will remember.

irishpipes 02-20-2014 02:46 PM

This sounds like a recipe for failure. If you hang out too much, members may resent you getting for free what they are paying for. If you don't hang out, they will forget about you.

thetalady 02-20-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by babynolegirl (Post 2262028)
I recently participated in spring rush because I did not rush in the fall. I got a bid from a house I really like, but since I can't afford it this semester, I opted to pledge in the fall.
Now I don't know if I made the right choice waiting because I feel like they dropped me and I don't know what to do.

What did they say to you when you asked to put off pledging until the fall semester? I have not heard of an NPC sorority holding a spot open in a pledge class like this. Not to say it never happens, but it is pretty uncommon.

Are you absolutely, without a doubt, positively certain that you will be able to afford the cost of sorority membership next semester and for the rest of your college career?

LouisaMay 02-20-2014 04:30 PM

I'm sorry...I'm not as well versed as I should be in NPC bidding rules, but I thought every bid was good for one year. When I was in college, you could accept a bid in the fall and start pledging in the spring. Or pledge in the spring and join the pledge class in the fall.

Am I am totally misremembering? Maybe things changed in the last 10-15 years?

Titchou 02-20-2014 05:15 PM

NPC bids are good for as long as the chapter wants it to be good. NPC has nothing to do with how long a bid is open. It's how long your acceptance of said bid lasts. In NPC, the acceptance is binding for one year OR until the next formal recruitment period. So if you accept a COB bid in February and formal recruitment is in August, you can terminate your pledgeship any time between Feb and Aug and participate in fall formal recruitment. However, if you accept a bid during fall formal recruitment, you are bound to it for a year. Understand?

33girl 02-21-2014 01:12 AM

The way I read it, she has already signed a bid. This used to be done a lot more when there were issues with totals not being realistic - it padded numbers and kept the national off your case. The RM factor wasn't as big a deal either. But at a school like Florida State (where I assume she is) I don't know why a chapter would do this unless she was, like, Dakota Fanning making a movie the same semester as formal rush.

DeltaBetaBaby 02-21-2014 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262051)
NPC bids are good for as long as the chapter wants it to be good. NPC has nothing to do with how long a bid is open.

Tangent: I thought I remembered something like, in informal recruitment, the PNM has 24 hours to make a decision, but I'm assuming that was just a campus rule. It makes a TON of sense to me, because it stops chapters from pulling any sort of "sign this instant" nonsense, but the MOI has nothing about this, right? It kinda seems like it would be a nice addition.

Titchou 02-21-2014 07:56 AM

PH can't really track COB bids as they are handed out, unless it's a partially structured COB. So putting a time limit on them to be accepted really wouldn't work. How would it be tracked? But generally speaking, groups need an answer so that they can give that bid to someone else if that PNM doesn't take it.

And the OP said she opted to wait till fall to pledge so I interpret that as she did not accept it/sign the card because she would be accepting it if she did.

KDCat 02-21-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262116)
PH can't really track COB bids as they are handed out, unless it's a partially structured COB. So putting a time limit on them to be accepted really wouldn't work. How would it be tracked? But generally speaking, groups need an answer so that they can give that bid to someone else if that PNM doesn't take it.

And the OP said she opted to wait till fall to pledge so I interpret that as she did not accept it/sign the card because she would be accepting it if she did.

Why would the chapter agree to hold a bid open for her all the way to the fall? Doesn't that mess with their quota/total numbers? Unless they're REALLY under total, how can they be sure to have space for her after formal recruitment?

Titchou 02-21-2014 09:32 AM

Sorry you aren't reading between my lines....I don't think she's really "sitting on a bid." I think she told them she couldn't accept right now but wants to in the fall and they said "Sure! Come thru fall recruitment and we'll have a spot for you." Which is all well and good except that 1/4 of the chapter won't be there any more and the rest probably aren't going to remember or care. I think she's in for a rude awakening. But that's just my 2 cents worth....

LouisaMay 02-21-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262051)
NPC bids are good for as long as the chapter wants it to be good. NPC has nothing to do with how long a bid is open. It's how long your acceptance of said bid lasts. In NPC, the acceptance is binding for one year OR until the next formal recruitment period. So if you accept a COB bid in February and formal recruitment is in August, you can terminate your pledgeship any time between Feb and Aug and participate in fall formal recruitment. However, if you accept a bid during fall formal recruitment, you are bound to it for a year. Understand?


Gotcha! Thanks. :)

33girl 02-21-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262116)
PH can't really track COB bids as they are handed out, unless it's a partially structured COB. So putting a time limit on them to be accepted really wouldn't work. How would it be tracked? But generally speaking, groups need an answer so that they can give that bid to someone else if that PNM doesn't take it.

And the OP said she opted to wait till fall to pledge so I interpret that as she did not accept it/sign the card because she would be accepting it if she did.

Accepting a bid and beginning pledging are two different things. Let's ask the OP and see. Babynolegirl - did you actually SIGN a bid or just tell them you were interested but couldn't pledge until fall?

DeltaBetaBaby 02-21-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262116)
PH can't really track COB bids as they are handed out, unless it's a partially structured COB. So putting a time limit on them to be accepted really wouldn't work. How would it be tracked? But generally speaking, groups need an answer so that they can give that bid to someone else if that PNM doesn't take it.

Sorry, I meant it the other way...PNM's got AT LEAST 24 hours to make a decision, i.e. the group could not take a PNM into a room and say "decide right this second or the bid is gone." It's a minor thing, but it's akin to preventing "hotboxing" during formal rush.

Griffins&Quills 02-21-2014 02:47 PM

Hotboxing lol.

KDCat 02-21-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262127)
Sorry you aren't reading between my lines....I don't think she's really "sitting on a bid." I think she told them she couldn't accept right now but wants to in the fall and they said "Sure! Come thru fall recruitment and we'll have a spot for you." Which is all well and good except that 1/4 of the chapter won't be there any more and the rest probably aren't going to remember or care. I think she's in for a rude awakening. But that's just my 2 cents worth....

Isn't that bid promising? And shouldn't it be right out?

OP, if that's what happened, don't count on them having a bid for you. If you go through formal recruitment, keep your options open.

DubaiSis 02-21-2014 11:59 PM

Probably not. It depends on what they really said versus what she heard. The way Titchou said it could easily be accurate - sure, give it a shot in the fall, why not? And what she heard was - sure, we'll hold a space for you next fall, why not? The former is probable, the latter is unlikely.

babynolegirl 02-26-2014 03:50 AM

Hi guys,
When I talked to the recruitment chair, she said that I could pledge in the fall, but accept my bid in the spring. So I signed a paper accepting my bid, but that I would later be pledging. She told me that I would be pledged along with another girl who did the same thing at the end of the spring semester so as not to lose us, but after bid night I haven't heard a word from them. I know I'll be able to afford the sorority, it's just that my mom didn't want me to join because my grades aren't too great.

Titchou 02-26-2014 07:49 AM

Since this is not in any NPC recruitment rules, I would be surprised if this works out the way you say. I doubt the FSU PH Office would bless this.

SoCalGirl 02-26-2014 10:57 AM

I'm not sure why there's confusion about this, she'll be considered a hold over pledge. I've heard of those and seen CPC Recruitment rules and chapter bylaws acknowledge them.

From what I've seen, in rules but never experienced first hand, is that she'll count towards this year's quota.

NoleGirl - I would suggest reaching out the recruitment chair to ask that she introduce you to the other holdover pledge. Ideally the chapter should keep in touch with you during this semester and summer but due to busy schedules "out of sight out of mind" tends to occur. Please don't take is personally but do reach out as much as your comfortable to make sure you don't fall through the cracks.

It'd be fantastic if you, the other holdover and a handful of actives could routinely get together for "normal" socializing and activities. Like studying, lunch, coffee, etc. You won't be able to go to 100% of chapter activities but it's reasonable for them to ask you to a few.

Good Luck and make sure to make your grades the priority!

eta: This isn't that much different than a pledge really than a girl who "doesn't make grades" for initiation and has to pledge again the following semester.

Titchou 02-26-2014 11:05 AM

This is entirely different, SoCalGirl. She is not on their roll, is not required to attend meetings and is not paying dues. Holdover pledges do all of that....and more.

KDCat 02-26-2014 02:04 PM

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babynolegirl 02-27-2014 02:52 AM

I spoke to the spring recruitement chair and she said that I will be pledging in april and will technically be a part of the fall pc

Titchou 02-27-2014 08:13 AM

Well, what a way to circumvent at the very least the spirit of the rules....

AZTheta 02-27-2014 03:04 PM

This situation seems dicey at best.

babynolegirl, make your grades. Because, without discussing MS, I will say that grades do matter and if your grades are that poor, you may NOT end up in any new member class at all. During the new member period, it is not difficult to terminate an uninitiated member (compared with terminating an initiated member). You know what you need to do - good luck!

33girl 02-28-2014 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2262883)
This is entirely different, SoCalGirl. She is not on their roll, is not required to attend meetings and is not paying dues. Holdover pledges do all of that....and more.

What she outlined is pretty much exactly what I described in my first post. NPC isn't wild about it but it IS permissible unless the school puts the kibosh on it. I don't understand why a chapter at a school like FSU with so much Greek interest is doing it, but I guess ours is not to question why.

KDCat 02-28-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babynolegirl (Post 2263548)
I spoke to the spring recruitement chair and she said that I will be pledging in april and will technically be a part of the fall pc

Good!

It's very weird to me, but if they're holding your new member ceremony, and telling you that you are in the fall new member class, it sounds like it's working out for you and for them.


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