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IndianaSigKap 11-24-2013 04:04 PM

Indiana University 2014 Recruitment
 
Over 1700 women have registered for recruitment at Indiana this winter according to t-witter posts. Recruitment registration closes this evening. This is the first year in which all of recruitment will occur after winter break. Good luck to all the women going through!

pinksequins 11-24-2013 06:40 PM

My hunch is that a majority of these women are not familiar with IU's bed rush and how, with the fewer openings (than preference based quotas), keeping an open mind is essential. How many registered last year and how many stayed in after the December parties?

IndianaSigKap 11-24-2013 07:34 PM

Many of the 1700 have an idea how bed quota works. I have been told it is discussed at the Greek Opportunities for Women info session which almost 1200 women attended. Also, it's pretty well known on campus. It's not like it's the white elephant in the room that no one mentions.

IU's recruitment usually starts out around 1700. The last few years less than 100 women chose to not come back after break. This year, women will not be able to attend open house round without meting the grade requirement which is one positive of the move from having open houses during first semester.

pinksequins 11-24-2013 08:56 PM

Thanks. Good to know. Good luck to all PNMs on exams and in recruitment.

DubaiSis 11-24-2013 09:09 PM

I think IU, more than any other school, the girls need to think strategically as they make their lists between rounds. Think before you list! You will have a pretty good idea about what common perceptions are about the ranking of each sorority against each other, but what about the ones you liked (didn't think were so bad) that the other girls AREN'T talking about, or maybe are even talking badly about? You have a better shot at those chapters, plain and simple. The top 3 most competitive chapters at IU will take combined in the range of 130 girls. Maybe even fewer. The 3 least competitive chapters will probably take 225 or even more. If you felt just fine with one of those bottom 3 it really behooves you to keep them in the top portion of your list.

Now, understand that you likely WILL be cut from some chapters after round one and your rankings won't mean as much, but if you should happen to have an awesome round one and your bottom list actually comes into play, you don't want to have cut a chapter that you wish you'd kept come bid day. And I would use this strategy throughout the process. There ARE chapters who participate in quota additions so it is in your interest to keep one or two of them in the mix through the whole process.

I'm not suggesting you keep a chapter that you hate, but really, how valid is your opinion after a few minutes of a single party? I'm just saying, you will undoubtedly have a feel for most and least competitive chapters and do yourself a favor by keeping a mix on your list. And NOW is the time to think about how you feel about a houseless chapter. Would it be so bad? Maybe, maybe not. But don't get to bid day and then have an epiphany one way or the other. It will be too late. And IU is not a school known for second chances at rush.

And one final note, there is another colony coming on in the spring, right?

IUHoosiergirl88 11-24-2013 09:17 PM

Yes, Delta Phi Epsilon is coming on in the spring as a colony. This is a little lower than some recent years (generally ~1800 girls go through), but that doesn't mean much at IU.

In terms of the rest of your advice...the top 3 most competitive chapters generally take ~100-110 members (those of you who are familiar with IU know which 3 I'm talking about) solely based on the size of their physical houses.

If you are going through recruitment at Indiana, you need to be happy with getting a bid to ANY house. Your collegiate experience will likely be similar no matter what chapter you're a part of, but when it comes down to it...you'll have to decide: would you rather have a set of letters and a sisterhood or nothing at all? As awful as it is, many girls will choose the latter.

DubaiSis 11-24-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88 (Post 2250398)
If you are going through recruitment at Indiana, you need to be happy with getting a bid to ANY house.

While you are completely right, what I was getting at was what happens as the week progresses. I'm going to use 10 houses for my example because it's easier. Round 1, you rank the houses in order from 1 to 10 (and in this scenario, 1 is the most sought after chapter and 10 is the least). You have a great round 1 and you get invited back to 1-7 and 8, 9 and 10 are now off your list. After round 2 you rank them 1-7 and you have a not so great round and you get invited back to 4, 5, 6 and 7. You're still ok with these chapters, and you still have a full party schedule. After round three you rank them 4, 5, 6 and 7 and you get invited back to only 7. Now, how did you feel about chapters 8 9 and 10? Maybe they weren't so bad. Maybe about right now you're really wishing you had a full party schedule. And maybe deep down you knew you weren't a good fit for 1, 2 and 3, no matter how much you might like that to be true. I'm saying, if you were a bit more realistic you'd have ranked 1 (a girl can dream), 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Then, minus any other changes and 8 and 9 continued to like you, you WOULD have a full schedule and a much better chance at a match on bid day.

IndianaSigKap 11-24-2013 09:44 PM

With RFM, these "top" houses do have to make huge cuts after the first round. Grades do play a part in those cuts but it does go deeper than that pretty early. I, agree, strategic ranking is more important at Indiana than at any other school because of bed quota.

IndianaSigKap 11-25-2013 11:09 AM

Registration closed last night with 1898 women registered, which is a new record for Indiana.

sigmagirl2000 11-25-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2250465)
Registration closed last night with 1898 women registered, which is a new record for Indiana.


This is still crazy to me. I can't conceptualize a chapter with over say 110 women total. I'd be too worried about learning everyone's name, and recognizing sisters when they aren't in letters. Heck, I have a hard time learning names of all collegiate members of the chapters I advise at (let's be real. I don't know ALL their names, but I'm probably up to about 55/ 70)

Good Luck to everyone involved

CookiesNCream 11-28-2013 07:00 PM

We actually have exactly 1900 women signed up... a few were sneaky and had the page open as the registration page was being shut down.

Unfortunately, the sad truth is that some of them are automatically going to be cut for grades without even undergoing 21 party because the first round of recruitment does not begin until January. I am not sure whether or not paying $70 upfront with the knowledge that you may not even ever get your recruitment t-shirt or the 21 party experience is going to motivate girls to get better grades... I guess we will see.

ForeverRoses 11-28-2013 07:45 PM

1900? Good luck to everyone on both sides of the process!!!

Blue2 11-30-2013 03:28 PM

Wow, 1900 PNMs. Crazy. Is there still talk about adding another chapter after D Phi E? Also what is the latest update on new housing?

IUHoosiergirl88 12-01-2013 04:32 PM

I'd say the problem will be less with the 1900 girls and more with the grueling schedule for the actives. Can't say I'd have wanted to be on the recruiting end anymore.

The talk is still to have all 26 GLOs by 2020 (I think...IndianaSigKap, correct me if the date is wrong). Tri-Sig was set to colonize instead of DPhiE, but backed out. In terms of housing, I don't think anything is in the cards, but the land is available if the funds are there. FIJI will be moving into a new house near Theta since the university bought theirs. IMHO, you're not going to see any of these chapters getting housing until they are well established. No national organization is going to be willing to toss out over a million dollars to construct a house if there's a chance the org isn't going to make it.

(The remaining chapters not on IU's campus are Tri Sigma, Sigma Kappa, Phi Sigma Sigma, and Alpha Sigma Alpha, in case anyone forgot)

Dnpgopenguins 12-01-2013 04:52 PM

I thought Alpha Sigma Alpha colonized last year?

IndianaSigKap 12-01-2013 05:00 PM

They did. I believe IUHoosiergirl made a typo. It should read Alpha Sigma Tau instead. :-)

IUHoosiergirl88 12-01-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2251064)
They did. I believe IUHoosiergirl made a typo. It should read Alpha Sigma Tau instead. :-)

This is what happens when I post before caffeine! You are correct, I meant AST

IndianaSigKap 12-28-2013 07:42 PM

Thought I'd post the recruitment schedule since it's so different from years past. Good luck to everyone involved: the PNMs, sorority women, advisors and the IU Panhel.


Open Round/21-Party
Please provide snacks for Rho Gammas each Round, as they most likely will not have time during break to eat. Drink Rounds will be every 4 rounds

Thursday Jan. 9
9:00- 9:30
9:50- 10:20
10:40-11:10
11:30-12:00- drink round
12:20-12:50
BREAK 12:50-3:00
3:00- 3:30
3:50- 4:20
4:40- 5:10- drink round
5:30- 6:00
6:20- 6:50
7:10- 7:40

Friday Jan. 10
9:00- 9:30- drink round
9:50- 10:20
10:40-11:10
11:30-12:00
12:20-12:50-drink round
BREAK 12:50-3:00
3:00- 3:30
3:50- 4:20
4:40- 5:10
5:30- 6:00- drink round
6:20- 6:50

First Invite/14-Party
Please provide snacks for Rho Gammas each Drink Round, as they most likely will not have time during break to eat. Drink Rounds will be every other round

Saturday Jan. 11
10:00-10:45—Drink Round
11:05-11:50
12:10-12:55—Drink Round
1:15-2:00
BREAK 2-4:15
4:15-5:00—Drink Round
5:20-6:05
6:25-7:10—Drink Round
7:30-8:15

Sunday Jan. 12
10:00-10:45
11:05-11:50—Drink Round
12:10-12:55
BREAK 12:55-3:10
3:10-3:55—Drink Round
4:15-5:00
5:20-6:05—Drink Round

Second Invite/ 8-Party
Please provide snacks and beverages for Rho Gammas at each round.

Saturday, Jan. 18
9:00-10:00
10:20-11:20
11:40-12:40
1:00-2:00
BREAK 2:00-4:15
4:15-5:15
5:35-6:35
6:55-7:55
8:15-9:15

Preference Round/ 3-Party
Sunday Jan. 19
1:00-2:15
2:35-3:50
4:10-5:25

Bid Night
Tuesday, Jan. 21, 2014

Lalucas 12-30-2013 04:17 PM

Hello ladies... with rush starting just next week and the PNM at home shopping for the "perfect" outfit.. maybe you experienced women can give them some tips for dressing, talking, or just staying upbeat during these crueling days. Like should they take notes on thier phones between houses? are they even allowed to carry thier phones? Do they stress over jewelry and makeup? any tips on standing out when everyone is dressed the same?

Lalucas 12-30-2013 04:21 PM

Also.. I have seen on other posts...stragegies for dealing with girls doing thier rankings... like how to be honest with your chances of getting in the "top- or most desired" sororities... that many girls at IU drop off ones in first rankings that they wish they had back when it comes down to the end... after the "popular-top" one drop them. I haven't really been thru it so if one of you can explain it better...please do.

Lalucas 12-30-2013 04:22 PM

Also how do you all think the cancelling of pre-recruitment activites will affect the process this year... my daughter is a senior now and I can attest that her sorority really did curtail those "exclusive- you have to know someone to get invited events" that were quite prevelant when she rushed years ago. i think it should help "level" the field.

DubaiSis 12-30-2013 04:52 PM

I don't think there is any way to REALLY be prepared for rush at IU. Just charge on, keep hydrated and get as much sleep as you can.

pinksequins 12-30-2013 06:36 PM

Though I believe you meant to type "grueling", the term "crueling" somehow seems to be somewhat apropos.

DubaiSis 12-30-2013 06:48 PM

I thought the same thing!

Maman 12-30-2013 08:11 PM

Do PNMs know how many 'beds' are open at each house? Does that factor into strategy? Are the sororities roughly equal in member total? In 2012 average chapter size was 156.

DeltaBetaBaby 12-30-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalucas (Post 2254139)
Also.. I have seen on other posts...stragegies for dealing with girls doing thier rankings... like how to be honest with your chances of getting in the "top- or most desired" sororities... that many girls at IU drop off ones in first rankings that they wish they had back when it comes down to the end... after the "popular-top" one drop them. I haven't really been thru it so if one of you can explain it better...please do.

Honestly? If your daughter is rushing as a second-semester senior, she really doesn't need to worry about this. The odds of her having a full schedule in the first invitational round are very slim.

Maman 12-30-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalucas (Post 2254140)
Also how do you all think the cancelling of pre-recruitment activites will affect the process this year... my daughter is a senior now and I can attest that her sorority really did curtail those "exclusive- you have to know someone to get invited events" that were quite prevelant when she rushed years ago. i think it should help "level" the field.

"her sorority" I think Lalucas daughter is in a sorority, not rushing.

IndianaSigKap 12-30-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maman (Post 2254159)
Do PNMs know how many 'beds' are open at each house? Does that factor into strategy? Are the sororities roughly equal in member total? In 2012 average chapter size was 156.

No, PNMs are not told how many openings each chapter has available. But a savvy PNM could make an educated guess by looking at last year's stats from recruitment. Most chapters will take a similar number of girls this year as they did last year. For example, if XYZ took 50 women, I would expect them to take between 45-55 this year. Also, DPhiE will be colonizing in late January at the conclusion of recruitment. Historically speaking, they could take any where from 80-120 women initially.

DeltaBetaBaby 12-30-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maman (Post 2254166)
"her sorority" I think Lalucas daughter is in a sorority, not rushing.

Oh, duh, that makes a LOT more sense.

DubaiSis 12-30-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2254168)
No, PNMs are not told how many openings each chapter has available. But a savvy PNM could make an educated guess by looking at last year's stats from recruitment.

And the savvy rushee would use that information when making lists. There is a HUGE range in number of girls each chapter will take. Keeping a couple of the high number chapters in your upper group could really help out later. And no, nobody here is going to do that work for you. But DEFINITELY remember, your ranking only comes in to play to the extent that the chapters invite you back. Many and maybe most girls don't have full schedules after round 1. And that's ok. If nothing else a light round 2 schedule will give you precious time to rest so you can be your fully enthusiastic self at the houses who did invite you.

IUHoosiergirl88 12-30-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2254175)
And the savvy rushee would use that information when making lists. There is a HUGE range in number of girls each chapter will take. Keeping a couple of the high number chapters in your upper group could really help out later. And no, nobody here is going to do that work for you. But DEFINITELY remember, your ranking only comes in to play to the extent that the chapters invite you back. Many and maybe most girls don't have full schedules after round 1. And that's ok. If nothing else a light round 2 schedule will give you precious time to rest so you can be your fully enthusiastic self at the houses who did invite you.

This. Not having 14 houses after round 1 or 8 houses after round 2 may seem like the end of the world, but let me promise you, it's not. Talk to an active during round 8 of 8 and that's the quality of conversations your full schedule PNMs are having :D

DubaiSis 12-30-2013 10:25 PM

And have that 11th party be at a party that doesn't have a prestigious reputation and you'll blame it on AWKWARD, when really it's exhaustion. Keep note of what ORDER you saw each house. You remember parties 3-4/7-9 as great and 1/2/5/6 as ok and 10/11 as terrible? It's you, not them.

ForeverRoses 01-06-2014 09:13 PM

The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

IndianaSigKap 01-06-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2254835)
The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

Looking forward to hearing your take on the new schedule and how it's working. Good luck to everyone involved. :)

HQWest 01-07-2014 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2254835)
The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

My guess - it means that any chapter can invite a PNM to 2nd round if they want, regardless if she was able to attend their 21 party.
It could also mean that if say she can only attend 12 parties of first round - then she can choose which ones and hope for the best?

ForeverRoses 01-07-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2254837)
Looking forward to hearing your take on the new schedule and how it's working. Good luck to everyone involved. :)

13 parties on Friday. We will be going from 9am to 920 pm with one break. Then we get to get up Saturday and do it all again!

DGTess 01-07-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2254882)
13 parties on Friday. We will be going from 9am to 920 pm with one break. Then we get to get up Saturday and do it all again!

Doesn't this type of schedule fall under the concept of hazing if chapters do it - to their members, their pledges, etc? I don't understand how schools can require this type of schedule.

IUHoosiergirl88 01-07-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGTess (Post 2254884)
Doesn't this type of schedule fall under the concept of hazing if chapters do it - to their members, their pledges, etc? I don't understand how schools can require this type of schedule.

Normally the schedule is ever so slightly more relaxed (9 am -8 pm day 1, 9 am-6 pm day 2)...most actives are just used to it, it's part of having 21 chapters unfortunately

For anyone who's interested, here is the new 21 party schedule:
Thursday, January 9th
3:00 - 3:30 / 3:50 - 4:20 / 4:40 - 5:10 / 5:30 - 6:00 / 6:20 - 6:50 / 7:10 - 7:40 / 8:00 - 8:30 / 8:50 - 9:20

Friday, January 10th
9:00 - 9:30 / 9:50 - 10:20 / 10:40 - 11:10 / 11:30 - 12:00 / 12:20 - 12:50 / 1:10 - 1:40 / BREAK 1:40 - 3:50 / 3:50 - 4:20 / 4:40 - 5:10 / 5:30 - 6:00 / 6:20 - 6:50 / 7:10 - 7:40 /8:00 - 8:30 / 8:50 - 9:20

Sciencewoman 01-07-2014 06:34 PM

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If my daughter complains again this week about their horrific 3 day/6 chapter recruitment schedule (she sounded exhausted Sunday night and was complaining about losing her voice because "we practiced singing so much!"), I will remind her that she could be at Indiana and life on the other side could be much, much, much worse....:p

IndianaSigKap 01-07-2014 06:49 PM

Wait...there is yet another new schedule for recruitment. Thursday is a no go and now recruitment begins on Friday. I am glad they are putting safety first. They will be running 23 events so the number of PNMs will be smaller at each event. Each party will be 45 minutes and PNMs will have some open slots to rest.


FRIDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 /
11:10 - 11:55 / Drink Round
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 /
5:20 - 6:05 / Drink Round
6:25 - 7:10

SATURDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 /
11:10 - 11:55 / Drink Round
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 /
5:20 - 6:05 / Drink Round
6:25 - 7:10

SUNDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 / Drink Round
11:10 - 11:55 /
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 / Drink Round
5:20 - 6:05 /
6:25 - 7:10 / Drink Round

It also looks like one round is being eliminated and PNMs will go 21-12-3. I hope I am getting correct information.


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