Another Sex & marriage question
 

A few of my co-workers and I were having the conversation about sex and marriage.
One of my co-workers, believes that if you are married you are obligated to have sex with your spouse even if you don't want to. She feels that your body belongs to each other. What do you think?

hellz no! (sorry for the profanity, but thats how i feel about it)

I agree. If I say no, that is what I mean.:mad: Sometimes you JUST are not in the mood. If I am maaaaaad @ you I do not want you to even touch me with your crusty baby toe.:cool: :p

I totally disagree with your co-worker. Your body doesn't belong to your spouse simply because you all are married. You are still a a person, an individual, if you don't want to have sex then why should you. You are not his property and neither is he yours. Its women like this who have men thinking its ok and here they come trying to have sex with you thinking its they property because some other sister told him so. I'm starting to ramble because I'm upset so in closing I disagree.

awww naww
 

okay, so... NO!

if i'm not in the mood...if i don't like you right now...if i say no, my husband had BETTA respect that. no one is obligated to have sex with any other person, married or not. now, i believe that married people are more giving when it comes to that and of course, it's expected for your spouse to please you, but that woman don't have the good sense God gave a chicken if she believes that!:rolleyes:

Well...according to the Bible, when a man and woman marry, they DO become one in MANY aspects. BUT... I'm not assuming that means taking over each other's bodies. I DO believe that intimacy between a husband and wife should ALWAYS be MUTUAL. We do have some men who feel that it's a woman's DUTY to "make herself available" to her husband whenever HE wants it. PERSONALLY, I don't agree with that philosophy. It's bogus and sounds "enslaving" (if there is such a word). I feel that many people misconstrue the MEANING and CONCEPT of a woman's SUBMISSIVENESS to her husband. God wants us to be able to understand His word in the RIGHT concept. He did not create woman to be a "sex slave" (among other things) to man. He created woman to be a "help meat" to man.

Freudian slip or pun intended?
 

'helpmeet'

LOL!!

Maybe this ties in with the discussion...
 

Sorors,

Did any of you hear about the KeKe Wyatt stabbing her husband five times? I want to know the details of the story. Thanks!!:p

Re: Maybe this ties in with the discussion...
 

I remember reading about it under the Celebrity Dish II thread in AKA forum. Here is the link to the last page and the news was posted by IU INtelligence.

http://www.greeksource.com/gcforums/...204#post140204

Re: Another Sex & marriage question
 

See this is the mind set that had pepople believing a husband cannot commit a rape of his wife. YES HE CAN! While I think that sex is a part of marriage that should not be used as a game or manipulation or coercion against one another, neither party is ever obligared to do it. PERIOD! As someone else said, she does not have the good sense a good gave a CHICKEN if she believes that mess.

God also gave husbands a command per Ephesian 5:25- "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it." If Christ died for the unsaved and husbands should love their wives in the same manner as Christ loved the church, then he should respect her wishes.

I'm my husband's wife...not his chattel. He's my husband...not my gigolo. Even though we're married, we're still individuals. Even though we've pledged our love to each other for eternity, it does not mean we have carte blanche access to each other's naughty bits, even if the other partner is not in the mood. That's a little too close to rape, IMO.

As a married man, I personally feel that neither of us have a right to demand sex or that we must have sex just because the other party is "in the mood". Contrary to popular belief there are times where the man may not want to have intercourse for whatever reason. It's not always just the man trying to "get some"
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Thanks MCCOYRED, I wasn't sure if the spelling was right any way, but you know what I meant. LOL :D:D

Red6, your co-worker sounds like one of those folks that reads (or more than likely was told) about a piece of a scripture, then took it to a whole 'nother level. The scripture he/she may have been refering to is 1 Corinthians 7:3 -6"

Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
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The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
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Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
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But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.


Based on my interp. of this scripture (sure to be a bit controversial), a woman/man should not deny his/her spouse, but at the same time, the spouse should love the other so much (Eph 5 that snuggles mentioned) that if the other is tired/sleepy/just plain ole don't want to 'cause these my brand new sheets and I spent a lotta money on them (:D oops...TMI ;), then the other spouse should say "let's cuddle". Some of the best advice my hubby and I got when we got married was "That we should each put the other person second in everything we do-God should always be first." If I think "What does God want?" first, then "What does my spouse want?" before I think about sleepy/tired/new sheets, etc. my perspective totally changes. In the same way, if he puts God and my needs before his needs, his perspective changes as well. I'm no bible scholar, but that's jsut the way I see it. Where's my girl Shalom2U when I need her??? :)

Sorry for the book folks, but God is really revealing some things to me about my marriage! I know that is probably WAY more info than y'all wanted.

I was thinking the same thing.
Oh Shalom:D

Eclipse, Sisterfriend, you said a mouth full. And as far as not being a "Bible scholar" goes, I feel that you have a better insight about this than a lot of proclaimed "Bible scholars" have. I'm happy to see that God is revealing things to you (I'm going through something very similar). :) :) :)

I haven't had a chance to respond because I have been out of work with the flu. (Cough Cough!). I read the responses and I agree with what everyone said, but why did everyone assume it was only the woman that had to submit sexually. It was meant that both partners had this obligation to each other.

Mmmmmm...
 

I'm kinda feelin you on this Reds6, because as I read the posts, I just kept thinking that I'd be mad as H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS if my husband tried to "catch a headache" on me...mad and SUSPICIOUS!!

But hey, that's just me :rolleyes:

I hope you are feeling better Reds6!! You are sooooo right though. I guess I was thinking about my own situation 'cause my husband is always, as he puts it, on "R" (for ready)! LOL

You are right. There is mutual submission between husband and wife. I think the marital relationship of mutual submission reflects the relationship of God, His Son and Holy Spirit.

I DON'T CARE WHO I MARRY MY BODY BELONGS TO ME. IF I SAY NO, I MEAN NO! AND HE BETTER ACCEPT IT.:mad:

Submission to the Husband? Why?
 

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A bit traditional I guess
 

Before I answer...I am NOT married yet...... ;)

I don't believe that you MUST have sex with your husband if you don't want to...if its to the point of rape of course.....HOWEVER....I do believe that a woman should not withold sex from her husband just because she's mad, trying to get back at him, or just holding out because she wants her way.....
Hey you can if you want to.....but don't be surprised if he starts tipping out.... I dont believe in 50/50 I believe in giving 100%.... and sometimes you gotta do what you don't want to do....to make someone else happy...

Thats just my SINGLE 6 cents :D