Smallest percentage of charters active?
 

This sort of goes with History, since it is Membership at a Macro scale.

I was looking at the Chapter roll (http://www.tep.org/chapters/chapter-roll) and active chapter list (http://www.tep.org/chapters/active-chapters) for Tau Epsilon Phi

Right now of 140 charters that Tau Epsilon Phi has granted, 14 are active, so only 10% of the chapters are active. Does anyone know whether any current members of the NIC, NPC or NPHC have (or had) a lower percentage?

Didn't TEP have huge legal problems a year or so ago when the membership effectively sued the governing body? I'm sure that greatly impacted their active chapter roll.

I think their percentage was low prior to the lawsuit.

They were, but the legal issues existed for a long long time.

Huge mismanagement of nfp funds and the Board was dealing in the mismanagement too. Some Chapters went local in order to deal with the situation before the law suit.

that's interesting....does anyone know who has the highest percent active of all Greek organizations? I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for information like this

I seem to recall NBH crunching the numbers a few years ago, which leads me to believe the answer is Chi Omega, at least among NPC's.

That list is completely off.

FTW.

Yes, TEP had some severe problems with their National Executive Director and other leadership (See http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/ny...frat.html?_r=0) among other things they went 10 years without an election for the National Board because the NED said that *no* chapters were eligible to vote because none had fulfilled their financial obligations. Some chapters did bail rather than paying humungous amounts that the National Office said they owed...

For some of the older NPC sororities where there were chapters formed at small women's colleges/finishing schools that are smaller than any school that an NPC sorority would go to today.

What is NBH and FTW?

For lowest percentage closed, my guess would have been one of the NPHC ...don't they have almost 1000 chapters each?

NutBrnHr (a GC poster who has trouble being objective).
For The Win (your post was spot on).

They have over 1000 chapters each, but those include undergraduate and graduate chapters.

There's that, but there have also been occasions in Alpha where chapters have have been chartered at a school, closed shortly thereafter for low (or even nonexistent) enrollment of eligible men, moved to another campus (our Delta Chapter did this), and then a second chapter is chartered at the first school.

Or a charter that has been revoked for risk management issues and then a brand new chapter is chartered there with a new name (SMU).

Or a metropolitan (city-wide) chapter that grows and splits off into separate chapters.

Because of cases like that, I'd really have no clue how to even count. Nor would I be very interested in doing so in the first place. No shade.

There were only 4 groups doing extension between 1867 and 1881. Those four were Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. Some of the early chapters did not survive for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it was because the institution ceased to exist. Extension was also willy-nilly. There really were no rules as we know them today. Both Pi Phi's and Kappa's Alpha chapters were forced off Monmouth's campus in 1884 and both groups continued to grow despite this loss.

Not every NPHC org has that many chapters. DST & AKA have the most and Iota Phi Theta has the least with over 300 chapters, but they are also the youngest org. We count both UG's & Alumnae in that chapter count, we do the same things so I guess I don't see a difference in that regard.

There are tons of elements in there, too, citywide chapters that split, schools that had a chapter and now don't, combined chapters (UG & Alumni/Alumnae) that split up, defunct grad chapters...That's a lot of history and math that I'm not messing with! :rolleyes:

Yup, there are an awful lot of us who will never have our Alpha chapters back.

It's awful to lose any chapter, but having a dormant Alpha chapter is especially hard.

Kappa and Pi Phi were lucky; it took decades, but both chapters were welcomed back in the late 1920s and early 1930s. I suspect this was due in part to the wife of the president, Minnie McDill McMichael, being a Pi Phi.

"Smallest % of charters active," no I never # crunched that one. I did start a thread about how many single-letter-chapters were still active.

What does 33girl think I'm supposed to be, a journalist?

Not looking for trouble here, simply hoping I can answer correctly...Kappa Kappa Gamma has, in my own estimation from number-crunching only the 26 NPC groups, the highest percentage of open chapters from their entire list of chapters.

I don't doubt it, but what are those numbers?

Not current info, but here's a list:
 

Source: "Baird's Manual," Nineteenth Edition, 1977

NPC group: Collegiate chapters active/inactive

1. Alpha Chi Omega: 110/17
2. Alpha Delta Pi: 132/25
3. Alpha Epsilon Phi: 32/37
4. Alpha Gamma Delta: 115/11
5. Alpha Omicron Pi: 86/36
6. Alpha Phi: 107/17
7. Alpha Sigma Alpha: 51/45
8. Alpha Sigma Tau: 36/18
9. Alpha Xi Delta: 111/44
10. Chi Omega: 167/9
11. Delta Delta Delta: 119/23
12. Delta Gamma: 100/25
13. Delta Phi Epsilon: 29/28
14. Delta Zeta: 181/63
15. Gamma Phi Beta: 89/18
16. Kappa Alpha Theta: 96/23
17. Kappa Delta: 112/50
18. Kappa Kappa Gamma: 100/15
19. Phi Mu: 118/44
20. Phi Sigma Sigma: 34/24
21. Pi Beta Phi: 113/27
22. Sigma Delta Tau: 28/31
23. Sigma Kappa: 100/45
24. Sigma Sigma Sigma: 72/31
25. Theta Phi Alpha: 10/27
26. Zeta Tau Alpha: 134/40

I. Am. Dying.

Good to know that 36 years ago, Chi Omega had the fewest closed chapters.

(I know you prefaced your post that it wasn't current info, but LOL!)

Don't die, blue... you're in the History Forum.

FWIW, I pulled the most up to date Kappa chapter listing from our website and saved it in a spreadsheet. In our history, we have chartered 162 chapters, and 22 of those are inactive, which is about 13.6%. We will soon be chartering THREE new chapters at Wichita State, Georgetown, and Elmhurst.

I have no idea how this compares to any other NPC or how to get any other NPC's info, but I was trying to provide current info for Cheerio's claim.

If anyone wants the spreadsheet, PM me.

Just stating in advance that I don't have the full numbers for all NPC sororities. Numbers are from (inter)national websites if possible. Otherwise from Irishpipes' thread A lot of NPC sororities don't openly name inactive chapters, so information may not be up to date or severely incorrect. Please post correct information if this list isn't accurate, and I'll update.

Active/total chartered (closed) as of sept. 3 2013

Alpha Chi Omega: 137/184 (47) 25.54%
Alpha Delta Pi: 146/209 (63) 30.14%
Alpha Epsilon Phi: 53/153 (100) 65.36%
Alpha Gamma Delta: 126/195 (69) 35.38%
Alpha Omicron Pi: 124/199 (75) 37.69%
Alpha Phi: 157/208 (51) 24.52%
Alpha Sigma Alpha: 105/150 (45) 30%
Alpha Sigma Tau: 96/133 (37) 27.82%
Alpha Xi Delta: 121/212 (91) 42.92%
Chi Omega: 179/ 230 (51) 22.17%
Delta Delta Delta: 138/189 (51) 26.98%
Delta Gamma: 146/190 (44) 23.16%
Delta Phi Epsilon: 89/164 (75) 45.73%
Delta Zeta: 158/ 297 (139) 46.8%
Gamma Phi Beta: 129/176 (47) 26.7%
Kappa Alpha Theta: 133/174 (41) 23.56%
Kappa Delta: 149/ 222 (73) 32.88%
Kappa Kappa Gamma: 140/162 (22) 13.58%
Phi Mu: 117/ 211 (94) 44.55%
Phi Sigma Sigma: 108/182 (74) 40.66%
Pi Beta Phi: 134/188 (54) 28.72%
Sigma Delta Tau: 62 /103 (41) 39.8%
Sigma Kappa: 115/211 (96) 45.5%
Sigma Sigma Sigma: 112/189 (77) 40.74%
Theta Phi Alpha: 53/98 (45) 45.92%
Zeta Tau Alpha: 162/215 (53) 24.65%

heh.

I believe you are correct! One day when I was procrastinating something, I did this compare for the NPC groups based on various sources (wikipedia, HQ websites, GC posts, etc--so it's not apples to apples) and IIRC, Kappa was far away the leader in terms of the smallest percentage of closed chapters. (And yes, realize I'm a humongous loser for doing this in my spare time!)

I don't remember which NPC had the highest percentage of closed chapters and sadly I didn't save the spreadsheet.

According to the numbers I have, Alpha Xi Delta has 121 open chapters, which includes 3 colonies in Fall 2013. There are currently 212 chapters that have been established.

We also have 4 colonies (2 new, 2 recolonizations) opening between Spring 2013-Fall 2016, so by end of Fall 2016 that number should be 125 out of 214.

Pretty proud of my org's recent expansion success, considering when I joined 5 years ago we had 112 open chapters out of 206. :)

Look at that Alpha Phi figure! 148 out of 155! Wow!

I hate to rain on the Alpha Phi parade, but I used CTRL+F to search through IrishPipes' list of chapters and roughly counted 49 closed Alpha Phi chapters. It's definitely more than 7.

Somehow I doubt they only ever closed 7 (if so, that would be amazing!), in this case (and a few others) my information is incomplete / not very reliable.

this. Not done yet, but time to get some sleep!

Hey, thanks for the time and effort you're putting into what you're doing!

Seconded! I love this kind of info and am super happy you're collating it:)

Yep, especially when it reopens and then goes dormant again.

Kind of regretting asking my question...I didn't mean to turn this into an NPC thread. I figured the least amount closed would be a NPHC

If you are compiling stats for all over the place, it would be nice to cite your source each time.

It's an estimation. I'm sure she's reviewing multiple sources and trying to make the numbers as accurate as possible. This isn't a dissertation she's writing. It's Greekchat.

I'm sure if anyone has corrections, they'll let her know (like everyone does for Irishpipes in her annual list of all the NPC chapters).

I also think it's more like 159 chapters open.

But our NPHC GC'ers who posted were all "yeah, I'm not feeling figuring that out," so those of us posting go with what we know. Just because we're talking NPC, it doesn't mean that we're not interested in hearing from other councils. I'd be interested in hearing about all the councils.

It might be Phi Mu...I know we had to close a lot of chapters in order to join the NPC, because many were at non-four-year institutions and the like.