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Mizeree I2K 08-23-2013 09:50 PM

Stop-and-Frisk law...WTF?
 
This is bullshit and racial profiling at its best. This isn't unconstitutional?

Stop-and-Frisk law

MysticCat 08-23-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K (Post 2233374)
This isn't unconstitutional?

According to a US District Court judge last week, it is unconstitutional, at least as currently practiced. I think Bloomburg has said the City will appeal.

DrPhil 08-24-2013 01:59 AM

Yeah this is dumb.

Kevin 08-24-2013 09:22 AM

Searches without any probable cause at all?

--seems legit.

DrPhil 08-24-2013 09:33 AM

Just in case there is a misunderstanding...Kevin is being sarcastic.

violetgeek 09-14-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239841)
Maybe a certain group of people should stop destroying neighbohroods and schools with crime.


On a troll ranking scale of 0 to 10:

User Name: -2
Posts Content: -5

PersistentDST 09-14-2013 01:55 PM

Yeah it's been happening all through NYC! And it's not just happening to minorities. I've read a few articles about young white students being frisked. It's awful.

Nanners52674 09-14-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239841)
Maybe a certain group of people should stop destroying neighbohroods and schools with crime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239843)
Stop the violence rallies are much more successful.

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239847)
Who says they don't have probably cause? The criminals?


According to NY law they need a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.




http://www.blackenterprise.com/news/...yc-96-percent/

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239849)
What do you think about the 500 murders a year in NYC? Is that constitutional?

http://www.blackenterprise.com/news/...yc-96-percent/

Normally tolls amuse me, but I'm just not up for this kind of bs today. GO AWAY!

Mizeree I2K 09-14-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239859)
The truth hurts my sista.

There are 500 murders a year in NYC and 90% are committed by one group. Where is the outrage?


What is your solution? Maybe you can organize another stop the violence rally.

Have a seat home's.

http://lonsdale-data.info/live/produ...ter-chairs.jpg

PersistentDST 09-14-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2239858)
That is what happens when you have 500 murders a year and 90% of them are committed by one group.

Why don't you complain about the murders?

Ahhhh, a racist, lying troll. Cool beans!

Psi U MC Vito 09-15-2013 02:12 PM

I was wondering when Max would return.

Psi U MC Vito 09-15-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240012)
Why do you get more upset with enforcement of laws than you do with the people who break the laws?

You mean the police when they perform warrentless stops on people? There are ways to lower crime rates without resorting to unconstitutional methods. All programs like stop and frisk do is make it so that minority groups do not trust the police, and are thus less likely to report crimes.

MysticCat 09-15-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240012)
No what im saying?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240023)
They need probably cause. . . .

No what im saying? . . . .

In the history of the planet, has their EVER been . . . .

Your stupid is showing again, Max. Glad that education is working out for you.


For the new GCers, this is just the latest incarnation of a repeatedly-banned poster originally known as madmax. Saying that his posts are a broken record would almost as big an understatement as saying that they are unimaginative and tiresome.

No need to feed the troll—he'll likely be gone soon enough.

DrPhil 09-15-2013 03:14 PM

Welcome back, madmax. GC needs stuff like this to outweigh the boredom.

Nanners52674 09-15-2013 03:15 PM

You need to go back to school crashtest and take a beginning grammar and writing course.

lovespink88 09-15-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2240006)
I was wondering when Max would return.

THANK YOU! I couldn't remember his name. I had a hunch it was him and I just could NOT remember. I was like, "it's that racist troll...the one who always calls Philadelphia "Philla"...he's always asking people if we're scared of the truth and what not..." But his name would just not come to me.

Thanks :)

Psi U MC Vito 09-15-2013 03:55 PM

I needed to pull my pants up and stop rapping on the corner first, but I managed in between taking care of all my illegitimate children.

DrPhil 09-15-2013 05:57 PM

Psi U MC Vito has always been the biggest thug on GC. He and knight_shadow scare people.

badgeguy 09-15-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240012)
Why do you get more upset with enforcement of laws than you do with the people who break the laws?

That is why your neighbohrood is a ghetto.

No what im saying?

Thanks crashtest guy for making my posts seem normal.....

And I definitely think you wasted your money on whatever education you received.....

amIblue? 09-15-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2240054)
I needed to pull my pants up and stop rapping on the corner first, but I managed in between taking care of all my illegitimate children.

OMG... I'm crying over here.

DrPhil 09-15-2013 07:35 PM

:) Madmax is an intentionally amusing, wannabe offensive, troll.

Badgeguy's just someone who is clueless and unthought on certain topics yet he keeps typing about those topics.

badgeguy 09-15-2013 07:38 PM

aww....bummer....

MysticCat 09-15-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2240109)
:) Madmax is an intentionally amusing, wannabe offensive, troll.

I think you're giving him too much credit with "intentionally amusing." "Intentionally annoying," maybe.

SWTXBelle 09-15-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240012)

No what im saying?

Let me fix it - "No, what am I saying?"

(late to the party, I know).

lovespink88 09-15-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2240197)
Let me fix it - "No, what am I saying?"

(late to the party, I know).

I misread this and thought that you were not understanding what he was trying to say. Then I realized....

the joke







my head


:o

DrPhil 09-15-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2240116)
I think you're giving him too much credit with "intentionally amusing." "Intentionally annoying," maybe.

I'm more amused than annoyed by Madmax. :)

knight_shadow 09-15-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2240080)
Psi U MC Vito has always been the biggest thug on GC. He and knight_shadow scare people.

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/f...me-arthur.jpeg

lovespink88 09-16-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2240250)

OH. MY. GOD.

StealthMode 09-16-2013 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240023)
They don't need a warrent. They need probably cause.

That was HILARIOUS.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2240054)
I needed to pull my pants up and stop rapping on the corner first, but I managed in between taking care of all my illegitimate children.

*hi five*
Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2240250)

This meme has nothing on my Arthur costume. NOTHING.

MysticCat 09-16-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2240219)
I'm more amused than annoyed by Madmax. :)

I'm sure of that. I just don't give him credit for intending to be amusing. I think he intends to annoy. It's all part of the troll-fail.

DrPhil 09-16-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240464)
You are wise. You know I am right.

Exactly.

No justice, no peace.

Psi U MC Vito 09-16-2013 01:49 PM

Just because I want to put off contracts, I'm going to respond to this.
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240467)
I am waiting for you to tell me YOUR methods for lowering crime. Do you plan on organizing another "stop the violence" rally?

There are many tools that can be used. Gun buybacks, community policing, and yes strong social pressure. There are a lot of factors involved in creating violence, and a lot of factors needed to reduce it. One of those is the popular media, which is overwhelmingly controlled by upper class Caucasians and targeted at middle class Caucasians.


Quote:

Tell me ANY method that works for YOUR people and we will use it.
You mean well educated middle class Americans? Because that is what I am. Caucasian does not always mean affluent, just as non-Caucasian does not always mean impoverished.

And to address your other two points, I will say this. First while 500 deaths a year (which is an inaccurate number) is a tragedy, compared to population, it only works out to about 6.3 per 100K people, which is lower then many other cities. Second, stop and frisk requires reasonable suspension which is actually even a lower standard then probable cause, which is part of the problem. If you look at the number, the majority of people stopped are Hispanic or Black, yet the majority of seizures occur for Caucasian suspects.
Quote:

Your main disadvantage is bad parenting.
Shit. I can't imagine how far I would have gone by now if I have only had good parenting. I guess being a first generation college graduate isn't enough.

Tom Earp 12-15-2013 03:54 PM

Have any of you walked in the shoes of either those who stopped them or those who were stopped?:confused:

Been there as a COP. Started in 1969 and that is when riots started. Worked in the North end, namely Black area. Had no problem as I got along with the people.
Worked Western area, mostly white area.
I stopped people when I saw a law broken, I didn't care who they were. They screwed up, I went after the, period.

But yes some others were not me!

If a certain group causes problems then that skews guys minds. It boild down, certain groups be on guard or maybe get shot/killed.

Have any of you been shot? I have, guess what it hurt, DAH!:eek:


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