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Jen 08-02-2013 05:43 PM

When your school changes names
 
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shirley1929 08-02-2013 05:45 PM

I think the combo "the former XYZ College [now XYZ University]" because your degree is from the college, but people might not know it as the old name. You've covered all your bases that way.

MysticCat 08-02-2013 05:54 PM

Paging SWTXBelle.

FWIW, I wouldn't say "the former"; I would simply say "Alma Mater College (now Alma Mater University).”

shirley1929 08-02-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2228788)
Paging SWTXBelle.

FWIW, I wouldn't say "the former"; I would simply say "Alma Mater College (now Alma Mater University).”

^^ Better! I knew there was a better way to say it. Yes, SWTXBelle has been through this one...

KDCat 08-02-2013 06:03 PM

What does your transcript ? I think it's fine if you put down whatever is on the transcript.

Sciencewoman 08-02-2013 06:09 PM

My mom graduated from Michigan State College in 1954. Shortly thereafter, it became Michigan State University. Before it was MSC, it was Michigan Agricultural College. The same thing happened at the university where I teach, in 1983.

The only place you're going to still see the old name is on your diploma. Once a college changes its name, it gets hard to even find any reference to the old name. My guess is that if you ordered a transcript now, your transcript will say the new name.

Use the new name.

SWTXBelle 08-02-2013 06:14 PM

HERE!

It's easiest to just get a new diploma and transcripts - so while I HATE IT, I put "Texas State" on all official documents. It has been so long now since the name change that many people aren't even aware of the old name.

Southwest Texas State University > Texas State University

knight_shadow 08-02-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2228794)
HERE!

It's easiest to just get a new diploma and transcripts - so while I HATE IT, I put "Texas State" on all official documents. It has been so long now since the name change that many people aren't even aware of the old name.

Southwest Texas State University > Texas State University

You were the first person that came to mind when I saw this thread pop up :)

I still don't like saying TxSt lol

DeltaBetaBaby 08-02-2013 06:16 PM

I think this question was just answered recently over at Ask a Manager. I'd search over there.

Titchou 08-02-2013 06:19 PM

True. No one remembers Auburn University's past names - except us Alabama fans who like to gig them just a little: East Alabama Male College then Agriculture and Mechanical College of Alabama and then Alabama Polytechnic Institute and finally Auburn University. Took 'em 4 tries to get Alabama out of their name!

Sciencewoman 08-02-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2228795)
You were the first person that came to mind when I saw this thread pop up :)

I still don't like saying TxSt lol

^^^ I'm going to start referring to cheerfulgreek's alma mater as Michigan Agricultural College. For their mascot, they should have a scarecrow, or a guy in overalls with a pitchfork, instead of Sparty.

knight_shadow 08-02-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228800)
^^^ I'm going to start referring to cheerfulgreek's alma mater as Michigan Agricultural College. For their mascot, they should have a scarecrow, or a guy in overalls with a pitchfork, instead of Sparty.

I'm in!

adpiucf 08-02-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2228794)
HERE!

It's easiest to just get a new diploma and transcripts - so while I HATE IT, I put "Texas State" on all official documents. It has been so long now since the name change that many people aren't even aware of the old name.

Southwest Texas State University > Texas State University

Did you have to ask them to issue you a new diploma? I could swear they mailed a second one to a friend of mine without any special requests.

MysticCat 08-02-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228793)
My mom graduated from Michigan State College in 1954. Shortly thereafter, it became Michigan State University. Before it was MSC, it was Michigan Agricultural College. The same thing happened at the university where I teach, in 1983.

The only place you're going to still see the old name is on your diploma. Once a college changes its name, it gets hard to even find any reference to the old name. My guess is that if you ordered a transcript now, your transcript will say the new name.

Use the new name.

It can vary depending on the school, I think. My mom graduated (in 1947) from the Woman's College of the University of North Carolina, which went co-ed and became the University of North Carolina at Greensboro in 1963 -- 50 years ago. Most people -- at least those from North Carolina and above the age of 30 or so -- still know what school is meant by "W.C.," and I can promise you that most W.C. alumnae never said they were graduates of or had degrees from UNCG. My mother always used the "W.C. (now UNCG)" format if she felt it necessary to use anything other than simply "I went to W.C." We were under very strict instructions that that's how it should be in her obituary (4+ years ago), and that's pretty common for W.C. alumnae.

By contrast, around the same time that W.C. became UNCG, North Carolina State College became North Carolina State University -- NCSU, NC State, or just "State." (Well, after a short stint as UNC at Raleigh. That's also when the University of North Carolina became UNC at Chapel Hill.) Perhaps because the name change for NC State was just "College" to "University," and because it didn't affect the State/NC State nicknames, only old timers and historians remember "State College."

Frankly, if the only thing that has changed for Jen is "College" to "University," I can't imagine how using either name alone would confuse anyone.

AZ-AlphaXi 08-02-2013 10:03 PM

My alma mater started as Western Kentucky State Normal School, then added "and Teacher's College", then dropped the Normal School and became Western Kentucky State Teacher's College, then dropped the Teacher's to be Western Kentucky State College (which is was when my father started teaching there) and finally became Western Kentucky University. I attended the lab school for elementary and high school. That went from College High to University High even though its official name was WKU Training School.

AZTheta 08-02-2013 10:05 PM

TEMPE NORMAL SCHOOL. :p *



*waiting for those ASU people to jump me.

AOII Angel 08-02-2013 10:06 PM

My University changed names about two years after I graduated. The alumni were not happy about it and many still aren't. I claimed my alma mater again after we beat Bama a few years ago and Auburn last year (Go Warhawks!) but I will ALWAYS put that I graduated from Northeast Louisiana University (now University of Louisiana-Monroe) on my CV. I did NOT graduate from ULM and will not say that I did.

AZ-AlphaXi 08-02-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2228837)
TEMPE NORMAL SCHOOL. :p *



*waiting for those ASU people to jump me.

Ahhhh .. you beat me to it :-)

pbear19 08-02-2013 10:21 PM

I have friends who went to Southwest Missouri State University. Apparently, when it made the recent change to Missouri State, they were asked if they wanted a new diploma, but had to pay for it if so. I gather it wasn't exactly cheap, either! :)

My alma mater changed names immediately before my freshman year. Thus, I applied and was accepted to one school, but actually attended another.

As for the OP, I would just put the new name without reference to the old.

Sciencewoman 08-02-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2228818)
I'm in!

I'm stopping by the 2013 football thread next....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2228835)
It can vary depending on the school, I think. My mom graduated (in 1947) from the Woman's College of the University of North Carolina, which went co-ed and became the University of North Carolina at Greensboro in 1963 -- 50 years ago. Most people -- at least those from North Carolina and above the age of 30 or so -- still know what school is meant by "W.C.," and I can promise you that most W.C. alumnae never said they were graduates of or had degrees from UNCG. My mother always used the "W.C. (now UNCG)" format if she felt it necessary to use anything other than simply "I went to W.C." We were under very strict instructions that that's how it should be in her obituary (4+ years ago), and that's pretty common for W.C. alumnae.

By contrast, around the same time that W.C. became UNCG, North Carolina State College became North Carolina State University -- NCSU, NC State, or just "State." (Well, after a short stint as UNC at Raleigh. That's also when the University of North Carolina became UNC at Chapel Hill.) Perhaps because the name change for NC State was just "College" to "University," and because it didn't affect the State/NC State nicknames, only old timers and historians remember "State College."

Frankly, if the only thing that has changed for Jen is "College" to "University," I can't imagine how using either name alone would confuse anyone.

This all makes sense. Your mother was obviously proud of her alma mater and the heritage. In that case, it was much more than a name change. Growing up, my neighbor's mom graduated from Southern Seminary, a women's college in Buena Vista, VA. It was definitely of the finishing school variety, but it has since been "bought out" and has changed names a couple of times. We loved looking through her old yearbooks...all the women's nicknames were listed. Most of them were rather boring, shortened versions of their first names, but someone nicknamed "Panama" caught our eye and that became a private joke. We'd call each other "Panama" randomly. We really wondered what the back story was with that name. If his mom knew, she wouldn't tell us.

DubaiSis 08-02-2013 10:26 PM

I'd play along with that, but with our colonization right around the corner I have to defer my Big 10 competition in favor of Big 10 pride. Give me some time and I'll chime in with the jibes ;)

MysticCat 08-02-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228848)
This all makes sense. Your mother was obviously proud of her alma mater and the heritage. In that case, it was much more than a name change.

True -- the name change was symbolic of a more fundamental change in the school.

To be clear, she was always proud to be associated with UNCG, as were most W.C. alumnae I've known. They just wanted to to be clear that they graduated from W.C., not UNCG.


And I love the story about Southern Virginia University (formerly Southern Seminary). I may have to start calling you "Panama." :p

Sciencewoman 08-02-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2228859)
And I love the story about Southern Virginia University (formerly Southern Seminary). I may have to start calling you "Panama." :p

If you do, you have to use the quotation marks. Air quotes were an integral part of the joke.

KillarneyRose 08-03-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2228796)
I think this question was just answered recently over at Ask a Manager. I'd search over there.

Isn't that the most awesome website? I've gotten so much good information from there.

SWTXBelle 08-04-2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 2228832)
Did you have to ask them to issue you a new diploma? I could swear they mailed a second one to a friend of mine without any special requests.

In their failed attempts to placate angry alumni, they offered a free diploma but you had to request it.

MaggieXi 08-04-2013 12:52 PM

I was in the last graduating class at Elon College. My diploma says College, but the institution offered University ones to anyone who wanted one. When I write where I went to school I say Elon University bc it's just easier. When I've said college- people would ask if that was a separate institution. But if your in NC (and probably parts of Maryland and Virginia- it's just Elon).

I was also the last of the Fighting Christians. The mascot was changed to the Phoenix when the school joined SoCon.


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