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AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 06:55 PM

Daughter Rushing at Mizzou...
 
Hi everyone,
My daughter will be rushing at Mizzou this Fall. No Alpha Xi Delta house there:(, but I hear that there are lots of great options. I hear that recs are a necessity. We are pretty much out of the Missouri loop- from Nor Cal...if this going to be tougher on her being from Cali? Thanks!

APhi4Ever 07-28-2013 07:49 PM

You absolutely need recs. Have you gotten any lined up?

AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 07:58 PM

Thx. She has nine of the fifteen lined up. Still searching... It was so different at SDSU- maaaannny years ago...:)

xibair 07-28-2013 08:17 PM

AZDBeachgirl,

I went to SDSU many many years ago as well. I was there from 1986 to 1989.
I love reading Greekchat and the information given is very useful. Hopefully you will get the information you are seeking.

Good luck to your daughter.

als463 07-28-2013 08:31 PM

What all organizations do you still need recs for?

AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 08:39 PM

We are still working on the following:

Alpha Phi
Chi Omega
Gamma Phi Beta
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Sigma Sigma Sigma
There are so many houses at Mizzou, it's hard to get them all covered.




AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xibair (Post 2227842)
AZDBeachgirl,

I went to SDSU many many years ago as well. I was there from 1986 to 1989.
I love reading Greekchat and the information given is very useful. Hopefully you will get the information you are seeking.

Good luck to your daughter.

I was there in 81 and 82. Thx.

Missouri Ivy 07-28-2013 08:48 PM

Not sure where in California you're at, but if you go to Alpha Phi's official webpage, there is a listing of all the alumnae chapters in the state. If they have a webpage or Facebook page, there will be a link. You might be able to find someone nearby.
Good luck to your daughter!

KSUViolet06 07-28-2013 08:58 PM

There's also a thriving Alumnae Panhellenic in SD that may be able to help you get recs for SOME of the ones you're missing. Their rec page is here: http://www.sdaph.org/contacts/index.html

If SD's APH doesn't have reps for all of them, there is actually a SC Council of Alumnae Panhellenics (a group representing ALL of the APHs in So Cal.) They help with recs, too. Their rec info page is here: http://www.sccap.info/Recruitment_Information.html

(They represent a number of APHs, so they probably have access to alumnae from EVERY group you need.)

Note: Anytime you're working with an APH to help get recs, your daughter will need to provide them with some info about her. Those sites let you know the info they'll need and when they need it.

Sidenote: I am a firm believer in SD being the greatest place on the planet. I'm originally from there (moved to OH in middle school) and my dad still lives there (15 minutes from PB.)

Good luck!


AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 08:58 PM

Thank you Missouri Ivy!

AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 09:00 PM

Thanks for the help KSUViolet06. Love SD, especially La Jolla. My fav place is the beach in LJ shores...

AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2227854)
There's also a thriving Alumnae Panhellenic in SD that may be able to help you get recs for SOME of the ones you're missing. Their rec page is here: http://www.sdaph.org/contacts/index.html

If SD's APH doesn't have reps for all of them, there is actually a SC Council of Alumnae Panhellenics (a group representing ALL of the APHs in So Cal.) They help with recs, too. Their rec info page is here: http://www.sccap.info/Recruitment_Information.html

(They represent a number of APHs, so they probably have access to alumnae from EVERY group you need.)

Note: Anytime you're working with an APH to help get recs, your daughter will need to provide them with some info about her. Those sites let you know the info they'll need and when they need it.

Sidenote: I am a firm believer in SD being the greatest place on the planet. I'm originally from there (moved to OH in middle school) and my dad still lives there (15 minutes from PB.)

Good luck!


We live in Northern California in the Sierra Foothills about an hour from Tahoe. I imagine there might be a SC Council of Alumnae Panhellenics that we can contact?

AZTheta 07-28-2013 09:13 PM

Do the best that you can in terms of recs - you still have time, do not panic, and tell your daughter to enjoy herself. I bet it'll all go great.

Miss CA; miss Santa Barbara, and miss the Pacific Ocean. San Diego is lovely, we Zonies love it there, in the summer most especially.

ETA, just saw your location, I know where you're located (general vicinity) and it's definitely not as populated as SoCal.

AZDBeachgirl 07-28-2013 09:40 PM

Actually, I meant there might be a NC Council of Alumnae Panhellenic that I could contact...

WCsweet<3 07-28-2013 10:38 PM

For Northern:
Sacramento
Tulare County
South Bay
Diablo Valley


There is one in San Mateo and Fresno but I couldn't find a webpage. Some of these are facebook pages, but I couldn't find anything better. I'd send a message asking for contact.

DubaiSis 07-28-2013 11:37 PM

I can't imagine you can throw a rock ANYWHERE in California without hitting an Alpha Phi. You just need to widen your search there.

AZTheta 07-29-2013 12:20 AM

Actually, DS, in that part of NorCA (Sierra Nevada foothills is my guess), the pickings ARE going to be slim. It's not like SoCA at all, population is way more spread out and not wall-to-wall people like the LA/Orange County/San Diego metroplex.

DaffyKD 07-29-2013 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xibair (Post 2227842)
AZDBeachgirl,

I went to SDSU many many years ago as well. I was there from 1986 to 1989.
I love reading Greekchat and the information given is very useful. Hopefully you will get the information you are seeking.

Good luck to your daughter.

I went to SDSU too! Earlier than you--71-75

DaffyKD

misscherrypie 07-29-2013 01:17 AM

I know that this is out of my lane, but, maybe I have some information:

There are Reno area Alumnae chapters for several of the sororities on her "needs recs" list, since I suspect she's rather close geographically to here too.

So, maybe checking with them can also be an option. Hope this helps. :-)

rockwallgreek 07-29-2013 10:29 AM

Pet peeve and OP may need to be aware... NO ONE who is a native Califorian says Cali...just like it is not Frisco...

If OP is in Northern California, might look into Santa Clara Valley. Last I knew they were active. It's as close as the South Bay, almost.

I live in Texas now, but I qualify as a 4th generation Native Daughter of the Golden West...

Old_Row 07-29-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misscherrypie (Post 2227893)
I know that this is out of my lane, but, maybe I have some information:

There are Reno area Alumnae chapters for several of the sororities on her "needs recs" list, since I suspect she's rather close geographically to here too.

So, maybe checking with them can also be an option. Hope this helps. :-)

You are out of your lane. This is not how NPC matters work. Please do not speak for us or offer incorrect advice.

LaneSig 07-29-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2227918)
You are out of your lane. This is not how NPC matters work. Please do not speak for us or offer incorrect advice.

And I am completely out of my lane and carnation, 33girl, honeychile, irishpipes, or any other women on here that I greatly respect are welcome to tell me so, but how is misscherrypie's advice incorrect? She said that if the op is close to the Reno area, she could contact alumnae groups for the groups she's missing. Even as a clueless IFC guy from my reading of GC over the years I do not see incorrect advice.

Old_Row 07-29-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2227924)
And I am completely out of my lane and carnation, 33girl, honeychile, irishpipes, or any other women on here that I greatly respect are welcome to tell me so, but how is misscherrypie's advice incorrect? She said that if the op is close to the Reno area, she could contact alumnae groups for the groups she's missing. Even as a clueless IFC guy from my reading of GC over the years I do not see incorrect advice.

If her daughter has truly exhausted all personal connections then she should go to the Alumnae Panhellenic group in the town or area that is closest to her, not start approaching individual sorority alumnae groups in whatever different areas that might be close by. There is a way these things are supposed to work to be most efficient and reasons why they are set up that way.

Giving any advice for a group that you do not belong to is never the right thing to do.

misscherrypie 07-29-2013 11:51 AM

Sorry.....I knew that I shouldn't have said a word. :-(

APhi4Ever 07-29-2013 12:50 PM

I have to agree with LaneSig on this one. It's not like misscherrypie suggested she contact an Alumnae Panhellenic in Georgia or New York, Reno, NV is relatively close. Obviously it makes sense to go with the nearest Alumnae Panhellenic to where the OP lives but this wasn't the most unsound advice in the world. I am pretty sure the OP will choose an Alumnae Panhellenic nearest to where she lives and go from there. Good luck!

Old_Row 07-29-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by APhi4Ever (Post 2227944)
I have to agree with LaneSig on this one. It's not like misscherrypie suggested she contact an Alumnae Panhellenic in Georgia or New York, Reno, NV is relatively close. Obviously it makes sense to go with the nearest Alumnae Panhellenic to where the OP lives but this wasn't the most unsound advice in the world. I am pretty sure the OP will choose an Alumnae Panhellenic nearest to where she lives and go from there. Good luck!

She didn't suggest contacting alumnae panhellenics. She suggested contacting the individual sorority alumnae groups.

AZTheta 07-29-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockwallgreek (Post 2227914)
Pet peeve and OP may need to be aware... NO ONE who is a native Califorian says Cali...just like it is not Frisco...

If OP is in Northern California, might look into Santa Clara Valley. Last I knew they were active. It's as close as the South Bay, almost.

I live in Texas now, but I qualify as a 4th generation Native Daughter of the Golden West...


IMPRESSED! My mother was born in the City and she regarded with disdain anyone who said "Frisco" or wore shorts in the City in the summer.

As for contacting individual Alumnae Chapters in Reno, I am with Old_Row on this one. You run the risk of stubbing your own toe, big time, if you approach individual sorority alumnae chapters with "hello, I need a rec". That's why you go through the "mother group" which is the Alumnae Panhellenic.

Not to mention that geographically, Reno can be a far piece from an hour from Tahoe on the California side. The Donner Party kind of learned that geography lesson the hard way.

Would go for Sacramento area.

KSUViolet06 07-29-2013 02:50 PM

The "where to go to get recs" hierarchy goes like this:

1. Personal connections (friends, family, teachers, people you know in real life.)

2. Alumnae Panhellenic (not as personal, but will get you what you need.)

3. Individual sorority alumnae chapters (they don't exist for rec purposes, so they're kind of a last resort.)

APhi4Ever 07-29-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2227953)
She didn't suggest contacting alumnae panhellenics. She suggested contacting the individual sorority alumnae groups.

Oh okay, sorry, my bad. I misread.

AZDBeachgirl 07-29-2013 03:45 PM

Thank you all for being so helpful...I guess this is what sisterhood is all about, regardless of house:)

ChioLu 07-29-2013 05:38 PM

You & your daughter have probably already tried this, but contact her high school teachers to see if they were in a sorority in college, or if they know any Greek alumnae. It may be Six Degrees of Separation.

sdtennisgal 07-30-2013 10:37 AM

I wish I had jumped in on this earlier. I concur that the Sacramento area group is probably the closest to the Sierra foothills, but Reno is not TOO far either. Looking at the recs you are still trying to get, I am SURE there are a ton of Gamma Phi/A Phi/Kappa/Chi O alumnae in the Sac area (given the close-by chapters at UC Davis, Sac State, and the Bay Area schools). Given the number of folks I have know who have parents who have retired to the Sierra foothills (beautiful area, BTW), you probably have some rec sources close by.

Gusteau 07-30-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2227880)
I can't imagine you can throw a rock ANYWHERE in California without hitting an Alpha Phi. You just need to widen your search there.

Haha, my thoughts exactly! I worked with Greeks on many campus across California, so when I saw Kappa, Gamma Phi, and Alpha Phi on the still needed list I thought the OP needed to ask around a bit more. Those three groups in particular have A LOT of chapters in California, and I'm sure the OP would find some among her friend group if she asked around.

Sciencewoman 07-30-2013 11:26 AM

There are regional differences. I have gotten rec requests as president of our local alumnae chapter, and I am not at all offended by this. I've even gotten a referral for a PNM who called our IH in desperation. I have no issue with helping these women, because our local Panhellenic Alumnae Chapter has no interest, none, nada, zip, in being involved in rec writing. We've discussed it...no interest. Sometimes alumnae make a FB post on the APH page about trying to help a PNM find someone to write a rec for a missing group...no response. All the recs I've written have been for women attending school in a southern state.

Recs just aren't big around here, and there is little acknowledgement of the worth of a rec written by someone who doesn't personally know the PNM. The chapter I advise gets less than a handful each year.

irishpipes 07-30-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228096)
There are regional differences. I have gotten rec requests as president of our local alumnae chapter, and I am not at all offended by this.

Yep. Around here, even with a very helpful Alumnae Panhellenic, people know how important recs are in this part of the country and understand why PNMs reach out wherever they can. Our Alumnae chapter gets requests every year. They just forward them to our local rec chair (who is me).

DeltaBetaBaby 07-30-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228096)
There are regional differences. I have gotten rec requests as president of our local alumnae chapter, and I am not at all offended by this.

Our Chicago-area chapters get this a ton, too, because 1) the Chicago AP has been defunct for a few years (and just got rebirthed this weekend?), and 2) Phi Mu is hard to find up here.

FSUZeta 07-30-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228096)
There are regional differences. I have gotten rec requests as president of our local alumnae chapter, and I am not at all offended by this. I've even gotten a referral for a PNM who called our IH in desperation. I have no issue with helping these women, because our local Panhellenic Alumnae Chapter has no interest, none, nada, zip, in being involved in rec writing. We've discussed it...no interest. Sometimes alumnae make a FB post on the APH page about trying to help a PNM find someone to write a rec for a missing group...no response. All the recs I've written have been for women attending school in a southern state.

Recs just aren't big around here, and there is little acknowledgement of the worth of a rec written by someone who doesn't personally know the PNM. The chapter I advise gets less than a handful each year.

Sadly, the Alumnae Panhellenic here in Naples has a similar attitude. I have even called members up on behalf of PNMs I personally know, and the answer is still "No." A ZTA sister and I have offered to organize a spring information session for area senior girls on behalf of the Alumnae panhellenic and the answer is "No". They have done the same thing for as long as the group has been organized, and until they all die off-and for most of the members, it might not be that long a wait- things ain't gonna change.

So when I know a great girl who needs recs., I network among my friends who are members of other sororities and we usually can cover all the recs. a girl needs. I have even helped PNMs going to colleges where there is not a ZTA chapter. As we often say, if you can find one sorority woman, she may know others. It is all about networking.

WCsweet<3 07-30-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2228096)
Recs just aren't big around here, and there is little acknowledgement of the worth of a rec written by someone who doesn't personally know the PNM. The chapter I advise gets less than a handful each year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2228127)
Sadly, the Alumnae Panhellenic here in Naples has a similar attitude. I have even called members up on behalf of PNMs I personally know, and the answer is still "No." A ZTA sister and I have offered to organize a spring information session for area senior girls on behalf of the Alumnae panhellenic and the answer is "No". They have done the same thing for as long as the group has been organized, and until they all die off-and for most of the members, it might not be that long a wait- things ain't gonna change.

So when I know a great girl who needs recs., I network among my friends who are members of other sororities and we usually can cover all the recs. a girl needs. I have even helped PNMs going to colleges where there is not a ZTA chapter. As we often say, if you can find one sorority woman, she may know others. It is all about networking.

This is how the Alumnae Panhellenic is here. When people find out that I'm writing recs the first question is if I know all the PNMs. Most are borderline offended when I say that I don't know them, but that someone I know sent them to me. There is a way to say that it is information only. I'm hoping to turn the AP around if nothing else.

ChioLu 08-11-2013 03:07 PM

Mizzou recruitment starts MONDAY! (Move In Day is today)

AZDBeachgirl -- keep us updated and let us know where your daughter finds a home.

IrishLake 08-11-2013 05:48 PM

I hope she got her last few recs!


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