University of Oklahoma Thread!
 

Hey y'all! I do see OU information in threads, but nearly as much as SEC schools and UT. Lets use this thread to post helpful relevant information for recruitment at OU! Super excited for rush starting on Aug 7! I'm a PNM (hope its ok that I start this) and I have questions about pref dresses. Is it better to have black like in the rush manual or a colored dress? How dressy?

Oh man, I'm an Okie native but never went to school in state... I'm just here to lurk. I'm not sure we have any OU actives on the board, actually.

Hithere112, I attended OSU, but my dad went to OU and i had several friends at OU in the greek system. They loved it! Best of luck to you! Can't wait to hear about your adventures. Take great notes and post after ...not during.

I don't know any thing about OU. I think your question is valid on the pref dress. It seems to be one that is asked often and even I asked it on this board. There are 2 schools of thought on the color. Stay away from black or white and or don't. To answer how dressy I would want to know what time of day Pref is and what they say in the manual. Cocktail dress attire and afternoon wedding are 2 completely different looks.

The manual that is online for OU greekmlife does not show black for pref for the PNMs..it shows two short dresses, both colored. Pref begins at 7 pm, and they say no sequins or beads...suit, dress, skirt/blouse.

Yeah for OU! My husband and I did graduate school at OU, and we love Norman!

Just for info, here is the link where you can find the 2013 manual: http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlif...enic/join.html.

Good luck!

yes .. quota is (with one or two exceptions) based on the number of women who sign after preference. So if 900 sign cards with 11 chapters quota would be around 81 .. might be a little lower with "extra" women placed as quota additions. But everyone who plays by the rules and attends all parties and lists all chapters attended for preference will be extended a bid.

OU is quite competitive. Make sure you have recs!

Good luck!

Play around with melt proof make up and hair. Dang it's hot in Oklahoma in August! I am so glad pref is at night..a little cooler. We had pref at night at OSU back in the day and it was a little less brutal than getting glammed up at high noon in 100 degree heat and then walking what felt like miles across campus. I know you will have so much fun!

My daughter has several friends at OU and they absolutely love it there! OU has a great greek system, but it is competitive. You will need recs for every chapter and remember to keep an open mind. Every single chaper at OU is amazing! As another poster stated, it will be HOT! I always tell girls that are going through recruitment in the South to buy a small battery powered fan...trust me, you will be glad you did:). Be sure to come back here and let us know how things are going! Good Luck!

I have a best friend going through recruitment at OU and she had an amazing first day! They're going to rank at 4:30 today.

Keep thinking positively and keep your mind open!

I will! I'm very excited for the opportunities I have!

My daughter is a freshman PNM and also had some tough cuts. She was only invited back to 4 houses out of 8, but did get asked back to her top two. She did not seem too upset, maybe a little anxious but overall calm. Fingers crossed for a good day for all the girls!

Today is skit day and house tours! The PNM's can visit a max of 5 houses today.

Good luck to your daughter MCHammer. Please keep us updated.

I recieved 1 house back today and decided to withdrawl. I know I know, how terrible of me. But I know what I want and didnt want to take away the chance from someone who did love that house. I was so hopeful after round 2, I had great convos (not exaggerating) and loved the ones I got cut from. I am a lot less sad then I thought I would be, and want to wish other PNMS good luck! Hopefully I can get involved in other orgs on campus.

I am sorry that things didn't work out for you. Definitely get involved with other fun activities on campus-at OU there have to be tons of choices!

My daughter attended 3 out of a possible 5 parties for skits yesterday. She is hanging in there with a good attitude. Pref is tonight, they can attend up to 2 parties. Invitations are issued at 4pm today. I'm not going to be able to get any work done until then, lol!

I do not envy you MCHammer. Good luck to your daughter!

Excited to hear the results of bid day today at 2 p.m.!!

Any news from Oklahoma University???

Posting on a DG thread that quota is 81!

One rec girl went AXO and another DG. Still waiting on news about the others.

2 Gamma Phi Betas, a DG, Kappa, and an AOII!

I actually received a bid today after dropping out, but I will write a recruitment story to reveal how it went down and maybe give some advice to a PNM that has the same experience as me next year!:)

My rec girl who was a legacy to my sorority preffed them but wasn't high enough on their bid list, I guess, to get a bid. So she got her 2nd choice. It's a real bummer that nowadays you can take a legacy to pref and not give them a bid. I'm tempted to write our Exec. Office and express my disapproval with that policy!

She's a legacy under your sorority's definition of legacy? This is one I've never heard of happening. I've only ever heard the rule that if you are a legacy and attend a preference party you are REQUIRED to be on their first list. That's why legacies regularly get cut just before preference. Is it possible your rec girl is telling you she got her second choice because she doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings? I can't say that I know everyone's rules, but I've never heard anyone contradict this policy.

Is it possible that she may not actually be a legacy according to your chapter's definition? My sorority acknowledges granddaughters, however my good friend's does not.

Every sorority has different rules. There are at least two groups, that do not require legacies to be at the top of the bid list. It does happen.

ETA: I'll leave names out.

Yes, please share your recruitment story, but first... did you accept your bid?

My quilting buddy's daughter went AOII at OU.
I offered to write a rec -- mom said she didn't know if daughter was interested -- evidently she was! First-time Greek for their family.

Wow did not know there were sororities that would take a legacy to pref and not bid them, that is sad.


Still following up on my rec girls
But so far
1 did not get a bid (I think she SIP'd), 1 Pi Phi, 3 Gamma Phi's, 2 Delta Gammas, 1 AXO and 1 Kappa

can't wait to hear hithere's story!

Honestly, it's only sad because people assume that if you're a legacy you're in. If you have a legacy going through for these groups, alumnae need to know THEIR legacy policy and inform their legacy that being at pref isn't a sure thing for a bid. Chapters have a right to choose their own members. To those groups, they may feel they are giving the legacy every chance to shine before making their final decision.

Btw, I have a chapter sister that was a double legacy to one of these groups and did not receive a bid after listing them first on her bid card. She was a better fit in my chapter than in the other. She made a stellar AOII. I won't say she wasn't crushed, but she didn't know that she had a possibility of not getting a bid.

Oh believe me, the rec girl and her MOM (who the legacy was) knew it was NOT a guaranteed bid but, of course, the girls in the chapter certainly made her FEEL like she was in and was wanted and would be getting a bid. I'm sure the ones who knew her did want her in. She just wasn't high enough on the list, I get that. It just saddens me that that IS our legacy policy. I think chapters need to know who their legacies are and if they want them, they should decide by the 3rd round. It makes it more fair for the pnm's and other sororities to know that the legacy chapter is not going to take them. So they shouldn't be invited to pref! I knew the policy before last year when my DD went thru at an SEC school. Thank God my sorority released her after skit day but she has a pledge sister who did get invited to my sorority (and her mom's sorority) and ended up not getting a bid nor did she get her 2nd choice because they assumed she would get her legacy so she got her 3rd choice and pledged with my daughter. You can imagine neither she nor her mom were happy (especially if they didn't know) and I just don't think that needs to happen!

The sad thing is that legacy policies are posted somewhere on each national website, and I would venture to say that they posted in the sorority magazine yearly, and are even on some collegiate chapter websites. Despite these efforts, members seem to miss them year after year and the confusion continues.

I agree that the policies should be clearly communicated, but I don't know that it would really solve the problem. Even if the policy says that legacies aren't guaranteed anything, if the member's experience has been that legacies are treated a certain way, she may mistakenly believe the policy is technically true but not really done in practice.

I heard about this from a friend whose daughter participated in recruitment at OU. I'm not trying to throw gas on the fire, but this girl was the epitome of the term, legacy. Apparently, her mother and two aunts were all members of this same house at OU, and her sister is sitting (a present member) of the house as well. Plus one of the aunts served on the sorority's advisory committee to celebrate the house's 100 year anniversary.

its true. It literally does not matter how many connections you have to a house at OU, they will and do cut ANYONE. Maybe this girl did not have the grades. That is one thing these houses will not compromise on.

I think that's clear across the board from school to school how important grades are. I thought most of the grade cuts were earlier and wouldn't happen after Pref round. Again, we don't know the WHY? for this particular girl and can only vent and/or speculate.

Thank you, Lovethesand! None of us was present for MS. We entrust that to our active members. To criticize them when the only information we have is from the injured party is unfair. I know girls and moms are disappointed, but a lot of times the "facts" we get from an unhappy PNM/mom are skewed by the emotion of the situation.

It is very competitive to get into certain chapters at OU. Everyone knows that. Those chapters also have lots of legacies. The actives have to make a lot of tough choices.



On another topic: Hey OU Panhellenic - please open for expansion. Thank you.

I think most legacies know the specific policy for their legacy house, so in my opinion it is not lack of education. The issue is the inconsistent policies between organizations and the confusion it causes PNMs during tent talk and the anxious period between the final rankings and the opening of the envelopes. For a girl who prefs their legacy house ABC, and ABC policy says, "pref girls get first bid list", she knows she will be and ABC if she went to pref and ranked them first. For the girl who prefs DEF, her legacy house, yet that chapter does not guarantee first bid list, it causes a great deal of confusion and hurt to hear other girls talk about how they know they will be an ABC because they ranked them first, and their celebrations begin 12 hours earlier than everyone else...no stress...all fun. IMO, all legacy that go to pref should be on the first bid list. Otherwise other house will either release them not invite them at all and we all know it is such and emotionally charged time, who needs that?