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KiaBiaGirl 06-24-2013 12:14 PM

Hi I'm a newbie-Pledging Against Religion
 
Hello There All!

I would love to interact with each and everyone of you, and have a question?

Do you feel your religion prohibits you from pledging and/or are you a sinner because you have pledged? If so, why?

amIblue? 06-24-2013 12:22 PM

No.

SWTXBelle 06-24-2013 12:37 PM

No.

carnation 06-24-2013 12:43 PM

No.

FSUZeta 06-24-2013 12:54 PM

no

Missouri Ivy 06-24-2013 12:56 PM

No. I am a sinner because I am human.

NinjaPoodle 06-24-2013 01:05 PM

No & No.

WCsweet<3 06-24-2013 01:20 PM

No.

AXOrushadvisor 06-24-2013 01:25 PM

No.

MDGreek 06-24-2013 04:18 PM

Nope!

DubaiSis 06-24-2013 08:13 PM

Heathen that I am, I'm wondering why/how your religion is against you pledging a sorority. What exactly about sorority membership makes you think it's sinful?

And unless you are planning on pledging some sorority I don't know of whose official or unofficial religion is satanism, you're good to go. Any form of Christianity or Judaism is going to be easy peasy to find a match for you if you want to stay within your faith. And if you meant you wanted to pledge a sorority whose core principles are different than yours, I think you need to do some more reading. In the NPC, there are a few Jewish sororities, a few nondenominational ones, and all the rest have varying degrees of Christian structures. And if you open up your search to sororities with a much more direct religious focus, there are lots of those out there too, like ones that require you to be a particular flavor of Christian and attend church every week.

maconmagnolia 06-24-2013 09:16 PM

No.

MysticCat 06-24-2013 09:35 PM

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2222358)
Heathen that I am, I'm wondering why/how your religion is against you pledging a sorority. What exactly about sorority membership makes you think it's sinful?

There are churches/religious groups that do not approve of taking oaths or vows. There are churches/religious groups that do not approve of the secrecy involved in the oaths or vows of most GLO. There are churches/religious groups that do not approve of the philosophies that (as they understand them) underlie Freemasonry, and that as a result have problems with GLOs to the extent that there is any a sonic influence in them. And there are churches/religious groups that have a problem with the Greek mythology that pays a ritualistic role in many GLOs, seeing it as idolatry or syncretism rather than metaphor or symbolism.

Yes, there are Christian (or Jewish) influences in many GLOs, and there are specifically-Christian GLOs. There are still some religious groups that might have problems with fraternity or sorority membership.

AZTheta 06-24-2013 09:43 PM

No.

MaryPoppins 06-24-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2222370)
There are churches/religious groups that do not approve of the philosophies that (as they understand them) underlie Freemasonry, and that as a result have problems with GLOs to the extent that there is any a sonic influence in them. And there are churches/religious groups that have a problem with the Greek mythology that pays a ritualistic role in many GLOs, seeing it as idolatry or syncretism rather than metaphor or symbolism.

In particular I have heard that the Mormon Church has prohibitions against Secret Societies that require oaths.

MysticCat 06-24-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins (Post 2222377)
In particular I have heard that the Mormon Church has prohibitions against Secret Societies that require oaths.

There are some smaller Lutheran groups that do as well. That's why there were some Lutheran fraternities and sororities.

naraht 06-25-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins (Post 2222377)
In particular I have heard that the Mormon Church has prohibitions against Secret Societies that require oaths.

My wife is a Latter Day Saint and is a member of Alpha Phi Omega which is a co-ed community service fraternity.

I know people who are both Latter Day Saints and Masons and (from the wikipedia article Mormonism and Freemasonry)

From 1925 to 1984 the Grand Lodge of Utah prohibited Latter-day Saints from joining, but no other Grand Lodge followed this ban and Mormons were free to join Lodges outside Utah. In 1984 the Grand Lodge of Utah officially dropped its anti-Mormon position and allowed LDS church members to join. Today there is no formal obstacle in Utah or in any other Grand Lodge preventing Mormons from becoming Freemasons.
The presidency of the LDS Church has not made an official statement as to whether or not Freemasonry is compatible with Mormonism. However Don LeFevre, a past spokesman for the church has said the church "...strongly advises its members not to affiliate with organizations that are secret, oath-bound, or would cause them to lose interest in church activities."[8] There are many LDS Masons in Utah and other Grand Lodges who serve and have served in various leadership positions, including Grand Masters, other Grand Officers, and Worshipful Masters.

TriDeltaSallie 06-25-2013 01:42 PM

More conservative Baptists would also not look kindly on membership. Some Baptist churches do not allow you to be a member of the church if you are in a lodge, Mason, etc.

irishpipes 06-25-2013 03:57 PM

The Catholic church doesn't allow Masonic membership, but has no issue with GLOs.

AnchorAlumna 06-25-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie (Post 2222485)
More conservative Baptists would also not look kindly on membership. Some Baptist churches do not allow you to be a member of the church if you are in a lodge, Mason, etc.

I haven't seen one that prohibits Greek or lodge membership.
I'm sure they're out there, but the more mainstream, the less likely.
Of course, there are 4011 different kinds of Baptist churches!

TSteven 06-25-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins (Post 2222377)
In particular I have heard that the Mormon Church has prohibitions against Secret Societies that require oaths.

Over the years, I've met various fraternity members who happen to be Mormon and none expressed any conflict with being Mormon and being Greek. Also the University of Utah has Greek Life and roughly 50% of the students are Mormon. So statically, half of the UofU GLOs might be made up of Mormons.

Former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, Jr. is a Sigma Chi (Penn) and a Mormon. And the Mormon Tabernacle Choir has recorded fraternity songs.

The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi by The Mormon Tabernacle Choir :D

drness 06-26-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiaBiaGirl (Post 2222209)
Hello There All!

I would love to interact with each and everyone of you, and have a question?

Do you feel your religion prohibits you from pledging and/or are you a sinner because you have pledged? If so, why?

God does not think like us. But He did say you shall have no other god before Me. So don't make the Sorority or Fraternity an idol god....God hates idolatry. Just enjoy the brotherhood and sisterhood while honoring God.

Xidelt 06-27-2013 12:39 AM

The University of Utah also had church sponsored GLOs on campus until they disbanded them a few years ago in favor of the Institute. The sorority was Lambda Delta Sigma and the fraternity was Sigma Gamma Chi. I remember learning about Lambda Delta Sigma in an edition of Baird's from the 1960s or 70s.

SoCalGirl 06-27-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2222380)
There are some smaller Lutheran groups that do as well. That's why there were some Lutheran fraternities and sororities.

My mom was raised in the Wisconsin Synod. Girl/Boy Scouting was not allowed so I can't fathom them being down with GLOs. Course she signed me up for Girl Scouts and never expressed religious objections to my membership.

IrishLake 06-27-2013 07:42 PM

No and no.

misscherrypie 06-27-2013 08:20 PM

No and no.


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