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Sen's Revenge 06-02-2013 10:34 PM

Michael Douglas' Throat Cancer Caused By Oral Sex, Not Smoking Or Drinking
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3375500.html

^^ The article is related to HPV.

After I discovered that one of my partners from a decade ago now has HPV, I realized I (as a man, and just as a person) really had no idea what HPV was or that it even had complications for men. I literally had to call my friend who is a sexual health scholar (MPH) and have her talk me down off the ledge.

I think some people will think this article is salacious, but the fact is men need to know that they can/do/will carry HPV and that it has very real repercussions, including EFFING THROAT CANCER.

That's crazy. I am glad Michael Douglas came out about his HPV status.

WCsweet<3 06-02-2013 11:01 PM

That is awesome that he came out about it. I know when the vaccine came out there was attention put towards HPV, but it has died down a lot. It isn't that rare either and it often doesn't have symptoms until much later so it is easily passed on without knowledge to either partner.

Munchkin03 06-03-2013 02:40 PM

A GC-er mentioned once that her fathers oral cancer was an HPV related one.

Maybe this sounds dumb, but I would expect more women to have throat cancer from HPV, as opposed to men...:confused:

honeychile 06-03-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2219499)
A GC-er mentioned once that her fathers oral cancer was an HPV related one.

Maybe this sounds dumb, but I would expect more women to have throat cancer from HPV, as opposed to men...:confused:

I read on that great authority (Facebook) today that a lot of the gender difference in HPV is from the thinness of the woman's genital skin as compared to that of a man's.

While I appreciate Michael Douglas's candor, I can't help but wonder how Catherine Zeta Jones feels about this revelation.

amIblue? 06-03-2013 02:56 PM

I am not usually squeamish when discussing medical issues or STDs, but for some reason, every time I read or hear about this, I want to plug my ears and scream "na na na can't hear you!"

Yes. I know that makes me super immature. I'm not proud of it.

DeltaBetaBaby 06-03-2013 03:04 PM

Something like 90% of people who've had multiple partners have some form of HPV. Most otherwise healthy adults ultimately do NOT get cancer from HPV, even if they contract a cancer-causing strain. New research (within the past decade) shows that the body can actually clear it, and often does within 2-3 years. So, if you read the full article, his wife even mentions that serious stress may have been a contributing factor, and it would be silly to rule out drinking and alcohol.

In conclusion, if you are in the age group for the vaccination, do it. If you are not, stop stressing out. The last thing we need in this world is less oral sex.

Mizeree I2K 06-03-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2219506)
Something like 90% of people who've had multiple partners have some form of HPV.

Aww shit.

Sister Havana 06-03-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2219500)
While I appreciate Michael Douglas's candor, I can't help but wonder how Catherine Zeta Jones feels about this revelation.

I had the same thought.

AnchorAlumna 06-03-2013 08:45 PM

TMI.
TMI!!!

Munchkin03 06-03-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2219506)
The last thing we need in this world is less oral sex.

LIKE!

Sciencewoman 06-03-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2219529)
TMI.
TMI!!!

We're thinking alike...but hopefully more people will get vaccinated.

ADPiEE 06-03-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2219529)
TMI.
TMI!!!

^^^^^
This

Sen's Revenge 06-03-2013 10:28 PM

CZJ could have very well been the person who gave it to him.... not that it matters, it just seems odd to wonder what she thinks.

Sen's Revenge 06-03-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2219529)
TMI.
TMI!!!

And at one point, people thought discussions about HIV/AIDS was TMI.

Munchkin03 06-03-2013 10:45 PM

I was also thinking whether it was tmi that he publicly made the connection, or that the connection was being made in general. Although she never came forth to say it, it's likely that Farrah Fawcett's anal cancer was caused by HPV.

I was also surprised to learn that after 30, if a woman has had 5 normal paps and negative HPV tests, she can choose not to have a Pap smear for years!

ASTalumna06 06-03-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2219564)
I was also surprised to learn that after 30, if a woman has had 5 normal paps and negative HPV tests, she can choose not to have a Pap smear for years!

Well you can always choose not to have one ;) .. but I know what you're saying.

I believe it was fairly recently that reports/articles/research has come out indicating that women only need to have a pap once every 2 or 3 years, rather than every year.

But maybe that's been the case for a while and I only recently heard this...?

33girl 06-03-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2219500)
While I appreciate Michael Douglas's candor, I can't help but wonder how Catherine Zeta Jones feels about this revelation.

Oh please. He's twice her age and was a Hollywood star in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm sure she didn't think she was his first and only.

33girl 06-04-2013 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2219566)
Well you can always choose not to have one ;) .. but I know what you're saying.

I believe it was fairly recently that reports/articles/research has come out indicating that women only need to have a pap once every 2 or 3 years, rather than every year.

But maybe that's been the case for a while and I only recently heard this...?

They keep saying all this stuff can be done at longer-apart intervals and my response is "I'll stick with yearly, thanks." I've gone 2 years without a dental appointment and now I'm in the midst of a root canal. Never again. So you can imagine how I feel about anything down under.

ASTalumna06 06-04-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2219576)
They keep saying all this stuff can be done at longer-apart intervals and my response is "I'll stick with yearly, thanks." I've gone 2 years without a dental appointment and now I'm in the midst of a root canal. Never again. So you can imagine how I feel about anything down under.

I went 6 years without a cleaning.. end of college, then graduated and didn't have health insurance, then got a job and was traveling all the time (and in all that time I lived in 3 different states) - and suddenly it was more than half a decade later and I realized I really needed to go to the dentist.

Fortunately, I only needed a deep cleaning. It was still pretty terrible, though. As you said, never again.

And I'm definitely still going for a yearly gyno exam.. no point in taking a chance!

Munchkin03 06-04-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2219577)

And I'm definitely still going for a yearly gyno exam.. no point in taking a chance!

Me too! I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would go for it...

Sciencewoman 06-04-2013 11:01 AM

TMI on the "not going to the dentist" revelations....;)

AnchorAlum 06-04-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Havana (Post 2219515)
I had the same thought.

Make that three of us. I'd have to hit me a man who blabbed that much. :mad:

DeltaBetaBaby 06-04-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2219580)
Me too! I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would go for it...

The technology has actually changed in the last decade or so (with the introduction of ThinPrep), and with it, the ACOG recommendation for yearly paps.

honeychile 06-06-2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2219575)
Oh please. He's twice her age and was a Hollywood star in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm sure she didn't think she was his first and only.

I didn't think she was. I did, however, wonder how Catherine Zeta Jones would feel about people thinking that she gave it to her husband. Obviously, she didn't want to be considered the source of her husband's cancer:
Barbara Walters: Michael Douglas' Wife Not Source of Virus



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