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bama13 05-07-2013 05:53 PM

University of Alabama Sororities?
 
Hi. I will be going through recruitment this fall. I have most of my recs and have read everything I can find about Alabama and rushing. I'm so excited. The only thing I can't seem to find is the costs of the sororities. I went to preview weekend and the sororities were all so nice. Are the sororities with the newer houses more expensive? Is there a way to find out what each sorority costs? Is the price difference minimal? Thanks for any help. :)

Titchou 05-07-2013 05:58 PM

http://www.uapanhellenic.com/index.p...test&Itemid=45

And you can check out the 2012 Greek Chic which is still available online. A link is included on the above web site.

bama13 05-07-2013 06:53 PM

Thank you for your reply. They only give ranges and I've heard some are even more expensive than fees listed..... I am wondering which sororities are the higher range and which are the lower range and how much in extra costs I should expect. I've heard old row pays more than new row because they pay for that status, but is it less expensive to be in old row than new row in a brand new house...... Thanks

MaryPoppins 05-07-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bama13 (Post 2216036)
Thank you for your reply. They only give ranges and I've heard some are even more expensive than fees listed..... I am wondering which sororities are the higher range and which are the lower range and how much in extra costs I should expect. I've heard old row pays more than new row because they pay for that status, but is it less expensive to be in old row than new row in a brand new house...... Thanks

Some GLOs have extra fees called assessments that are tacked on as the year happens, which could drive costs over the predicted costs. Some do not allow assessments as a matter of course. Can someone better explains "assessments" for me? Also there are the fines that one earns for failing to do certain mandatory required things. Fines are avoidable, but some people do not make avoiding them a priority and so that too can drive of the cost of membership above what is shared.

AZTheta 05-07-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bama13 (Post 2216036)
I've heard old row pays more than new row because they pay for that status, but is it less expensive to be in old row than new row in a brand new house......

wait...what? They PAY for STATUS at Alabama? You buy it? Oh. That explains ... nothing. Nevermind. Nope. Just, no. *scratches head, looks puzzled* No, that can't be it, surely not.

Then again... on second thought... oh, I really shouldn't. I won't. It's killing me, but I'll be good. At least I'm not annoyed.

adpiucf 05-07-2013 10:09 PM

Pick up a phone and call the office of Greek Life. Ask them for the cost of first semester new member and spring semester member dues for each and every chapter in the last year.

Titchou 05-07-2013 10:13 PM

Honey, Old Row has moved to New Row...and in much bigger houses. and the ones who haven't are planning to. Didn't you see all the signs at Preview Day? And check out the PH website for where everyone is moving and who's enlarging. It's EVERYONE! I don't think you're going to get exact figures here for any chapter. You can ask when you go thru recruitment and they do have to share than info with you. The problem is - what if you are aboslutely in love with - and they with you - the high end group? Do you refuse to go to their events and risk losing the opportunity to maximize your options? Very risky. Read the section about maximizing your options and understand that they can remove you from recruitment if you refuse to attend a party you are slated to attend. Only you can decide if that will be OK for you.

honeychile 05-08-2013 12:07 AM

OP, we do NOT annoy AzTheta on GreekChat!

Seriously, whatever the dues, parlor fees, etc are, plan on also having the money for at least one formal a year (and all that entails), big/little sister gifts, "just because" gifts, and such. I pledged years and years ago (think Carl Sagan) and was told to expect to spend at least an extra $200 on the extras - I'm sure it's more like $2,000 now.

frogbait 05-08-2013 10:09 AM

I have a D in an "old row" house at bama and her roommate was in a new row house. I compared our dues to one another and though ours was a bit higher I later found out that ours was an "all inclusive" price, meaning it covered just about everything. The roommate still had to pay for a pin and other things. I would loosely budget $8,000-$10,000 a year for living out of the house.

Remember that this also covers your meal plan. The girls eat at the house M-F for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You will automatically be taken off of the campus meal plan when you accept a bid.

As far as outside fees, the only thing my D has purchased is goofy stuff for theme mixers and one or two formal type dresses (one long and one short). If you have these already, they can be re-worn. The girls in her sorority even set up a facebook dress exchange and borrowed each others formals.

Good luck to you! It will be the best year of your life (so far)!

TriDeltaSallie 05-08-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by frogbait (Post 2216110)
I would loosely budget $8,000-$10,000 a year for living out of the house.

The All Access meal plan at Alabama is $1,578 per semester so $3,156 a year.

So you are saying sorority costs per year are between $5k and $7k?

33girl 05-08-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bama13 (Post 2216036)
Thank you for your reply. They only give ranges and I've heard some are even more expensive than fees listed..... I am wondering which sororities are the higher range and which are the lower range and how much in extra costs I should expect. I've heard old row pays more than new row because they pay for that status, but is it less expensive to be in old row than new row in a brand new house...... Thanks

If you can't afford the highest figure mentioned, don't rush. Period.

Titchou 05-08-2013 11:37 AM

And Old Row doesn't necessarily indicate where the house is located now. A group could be "Old Row" in status and have a house on "New Row." Confusing, I know.

DeltaBetaBaby 05-08-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frogbait (Post 2216110)
I would loosely budget $8,000-$10,000 a year for living out of the house.

:eek::eek::eek:

My northerner brain just exploded.

AGDee 05-08-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2216151)
:eek::eek::eek:

My northerner brain just exploded.

So did mine!

KDCat 05-08-2013 04:16 PM

Never mind. I just saw that it says "out" of house, not "in" house. That's a lot for living out.

Titchou 05-08-2013 05:50 PM

Remember, that's your full meal plan, dues, formal, parties, tee shirts, retreats, etc, etc, etc.

frogbait 05-09-2013 12:05 AM

Yep, titchou is correct. That's an all in one price. Bama greek ain't cheap! Be prepared for the big price tag!

Hartofsec 05-09-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bama13 (Post 2216027)
Hi. I will be going through recruitment this fall. I have most of my recs and have read everything I can find about Alabama and rushing. I'm so excited. The only thing I can't seem to find is the costs of the sororities. I went to preview weekend and the sororities were all so nice. Are the sororities with the newer houses more expensive? Is there a way to find out what each sorority costs? Is the price difference minimal? Thanks for any help. :)

The concept of "Old Row" sororities is not a designated place at Bama (like where the new houses are), or a "status" that is purchased (unless something has changed in recent years).

The concept has been around for a very long time -- including the same sororities, for the most part, for decades -- and there were no "Old Row" charges or extra "Old Row" costs on the house bill then.

Historically (and currently) "Old Row" sororities might be considered strong-rushing chapters that are in-state strongholds. If shirts are sold or joint parties held, it is possible that these involve increased costs (but this could happen regardless of what chapters are involved).

I don't think the prospect of a new (or entirely renovated) house at Bama is avoidable at this point -- but wish we had more specific info on costs for you.

Good luck to you during recruitment!

pinapple 05-09-2013 08:23 PM

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So you are saying sorority costs per year are between $5k and $7k?
I think is right in line with other SEC schools as well as the University of Texas

gee_ess 05-09-2013 08:47 PM

I have no idea what is involved in costs for KKG at Alabama BUT I can tell you that it is against our bylaws and standing rules to charge monetary fines for anything. So, while other houses may fine girls for missing chapter, etc, the KKGs do not. Hope that helps.

tootiepie2 05-09-2013 08:47 PM

LSU is no where near that expensive. Maybe living in house but then you are not paying for a dorm or an apt. so I don't know if I would even count that as sorority costs since you have to pay for that anyway.

33girl 05-09-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess (Post 2216403)
I have no idea what is involved in costs for KKG at Alabama BUT I can tell you that it is against our bylaws and standing rules to charge monetary fines for anything. So, while other houses may fine girls for missing chapter, etc, the KKGs do not. Hope that helps.

If you don't mind my asking, then what is the discipline involved? Getting sent to standards?

DubaiSis 05-10-2013 12:04 AM

I don't recall my chapter having financial fines either. If you didn't make enough points (chapter attendance, grades, other stuff) I think there were things you weren't allowed to attend, like formal. But I don't remember us ever having a problem with people not showing up to stuff.

gee_ess 05-10-2013 12:27 PM

Yes, repeated infractions result in being sent to standards. Nd possibly could result in some sort of probation, i magine, if things got really bad. Standards is out of my wheelhouse so am not sure what happens with habitual offenders. During recruitment, etc if you are late, for example, you get a "Job Jar" assignment. You are given a job to do like empty the trash cans after the rec session or straighten all the chairs, etc. No one likes doing this stuff because when the rec session is over, you are ready to get the heck out of that room for a while and grab some food and a nap!

Personally, I really did not realize this was unusual or not the norm until I became an advisor. I just thought everyone did it this way. But I can see how arbitrary these fines can become and how unpredictable this monetary component of sorority membership can be, and therefore,be somewhat difficult for young women.

Titchou 05-10-2013 01:18 PM

With our chapters, they can do either - pay the fine or work it off. But it's up to Honor Board to determine which and how it is set up is in the standing rules.

AnchorAlumna 05-10-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bama13 (Post 2216027)
Hi. I will be going through recruitment this fall. I have most of my recs and have read everything I can find about Alabama and rushing. I'm so excited. The only thing I can't seem to find is the costs of the sororities. I went to preview weekend and the sororities were all so nice. Are the sororities with the newer houses more expensive? Is there a way to find out what each sorority costs? Is the price difference minimal? Thanks for any help. :)

If you go here http://uapanhellenic.com/index.php?o...id=11&Itemid=4 and click on the various profiles, the resulting page will often (not always, but usually) have a link for a 2013 brochure. The resulting brochure often (not always but often) has a list of costs.
Seems to be around $6,000 or so per year for out-of-house expenses. First year, add another $600 to $1,000 for various one-time fees. Some may be less, some may be more.

KDCat 05-10-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2216479)
If you go here http://uapanhellenic.com/index.php?o...id=11&Itemid=4 and click on the various profiles, the resulting page will often (not always, but usually) have a link for a 2013 brochure. The resulting brochure often (not always but often) has a list of costs.
Seems to be around $6,000 or so per year for out-of-house expenses. First year, add another $600 to $1,000 for various one-time fees. Some may be less, some may be more.

I was interested so I looked there and that led me to this:
http://greekaffairs.ua.edu/parents.c...Responsibility

The Greek Life office estimates $2100 per semester for a sorority member who lives out of house.

BAckbOwlsgIrl 05-10-2013 08:14 PM

Monetary Fines
 
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My chapter had HUGE monetary fines. Specifically for recruitment. It was a major turn off. I almost dropped because of it.

Now after I graduating, I understand them; if you miss work, you don't get paid. However, at the time, working my way through college, I needed that money to pay for school. The chapter needed all the bodies they could for recruitment. My family with a long tradition of Greek life had never heard of this. They were were appalled. They could not believe that the chapter would be so adamant about attendance, let alone fining.

I really wish this side of Greek life would be discussed more here. PNMs need to know about ALL aspects of Greek life. Granted every chapter is different. It is not like you go into Recruitment and say "How much are your fines?"

Maybe things have changed. I hope they have. But, I doubt it.

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DubaiSis 05-10-2013 10:55 PM

I think you're right, in that sorority membership is a commitment, for better and for worse. There are plenty of both and when there seems to be a lot more worse than better, it's time to suck it up. You made a commitment. I would guess that ridiculous financial fines was the only way to hit home with a lot of girls. You can't deny them the possibility to be an officer because the chapter is so huge that opportunity is slight anyway. You can't deny them the opportunity to attend social events or formals because they don't want to go anyway! Ability to live in the house: same. But on the other hand, the financial penalties don't hurt a lot of girls either because Mommy and Daddy just pay it, no questions asked.

I think the next big challenge in Greek life is member retention and there is some creativity that needs to be tapped to solve some of these issues. I would start by making the pledge period more of a challenge (not hazing but not 6 weeks of Christmas either) and a real discussion about commitment with the pledges. All the gifts and adoration might be counter-productive.


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