Local Greeks Hazing "Scandal"
 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/03/28/56136.html

What do you guys think about this?

Sorry, wrong link.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/03/28/56136.htm

I hope that the plaintiffs win and that every group there gets shut down. For years, I have heard about the hazing at Young Harris and couldn't figure out why the college ignored it. I still can't.

Why would they give the finger to state hazing laws?????

A good bit of the faculty, administration, and even some of the campus police attended school there and were members of the organizations. Nearly every professor is completely aware of what goes on and those who speak out are harassed by students or fired.

:eek::eek::eek: A national sorority ceased their attempts to colonize there a couple of years ago. I expect they were afraid that the chapter would try to act like the locals and can you imagine the liability?

Now I *really* hope that the AJC gets wind of it. How dare these kids violate state law and also harass professors?

Holy shit.

Went to the YHC website, no Gamma Psi listed there although two of their members are right in front of the group Greek photo. I'm betting that they may be existing sub rosa because you can still find their website (active) on Google.

I wonder if the school tried to keep the lid on it because YHC recently transitioned to a 4 yr university. They may have been afraid hazing problems would have jeopardized this or caused them to lose financial support.

What year is this? 2013? Oh, okay, just checking.

HOLY COW. Those people are in Big Trouble. It's gonna suck to be them. Oh yeah. Big Time.

ETA: "Young Harris College is a private, Methodist-affiliated liberal arts college located in the mountains of northeast Georgia. The current president is Cathy Cox, former Georgia Secretary of State."

wait...what?

Yiii! I didn't realize that it was that Cathy Cox! And look, she suggested that they go outside and duke it out!

I seem to recall some political scandal related to her when I lived in Atlanta, but I can't remember details, so I guess I really don't have anything to contribute to this thread other than OMFG! What?

Wow, wow, wow. Unbelievable. I live roughly two hours from Young Harris and have always thought it was a quiet little school in the scenic mountains of North Georgia. Boy, what I don't know. I do know a teacher in my community who is a YH grad and was active with one of the local fraternities. Hard to fathom him ever taking part in any of the described activities -- really hoping he didn't.

I wonder if Atlanta news will pick this up? Agree with Carnation in hoping that plaintiffs win and the whole system gets shut down. This is just appalling.

It does strike me as a bit odd that when I google "'Young Harris' hazing," all that comes up is the linked article (from a legal news service I've never heard of), this thread, which was started by a newbie who seems to have registered just to post the story and ask what we think about it, and references to YH's policies. I think I would like to see some other reports before drawing too many conclusions.

Well, the college and hazing was discussed here previously

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=107804

I attend the college and know for a fact the article is true and was just wondering what Greeks from other schools thought. That's all.

I'm trying to figure out what tItle IX has to do wIth anything.

Not sure I saw that thread before. I know the name of the school didn't ring any bells at all. Thanks.

I figured you're a student there, and I'm not saying that you or anyone else are just making things up. But between this thread and the one amIblue cited, all there is is one article describing a complaint in a lawsuit and a number of people passing on what they've heard from other people.

I guess I've just been practicing law long enough to be hesitant to take stories like this from sources such as the ones we have so far at face value.

One of the girls I pledged with years and years ago had transferred from Young Harris. She had pledged a local there and told us stories of how she was personally treated and their hazing. We were stunned and horrified. She ended up as our risk management chair and was very against hazing. Our chapter did not haze, but having someone who made sure that message was given to the incoming freshman (who often wanted to be hazed because of their high school experiences) helped make sure it didn't get introduced to the chapter.

I thought Phi Mu was going to colonize at Young Harris. Are they the NPC who backed out or is their intent to continue to colonize?

So maybe all the tent talk stories in that thread I started aren't made up... Some of those were right out of that thread...

Why in the world would anyone subject themselves to that kind of abuse?

I wasn't trying to say this was the gospel truth, just that it had been discussed before.

I wonder if maybe other people (reporters, friends, alumni?) try to hide it/deny what's happening, and that's why there isn't much information on it? Just a guess.

If this is all true, it's disgusting. :(

That's what I always wonder! I'd like to think that if anyone ever tried to haze me, I'd walk out and never look back.

I imagine group mentality and the desire to belong or to be popular often overtake common sense and rational thinking. It is also said that the human brain is not fully developed until our early 20's, so there is something to be said for poor decision making being the result of an underdeveloped brain. Also, those who join GLO's tend to be people who believe in conforming to group ideals (which is great if we're talking about people working in a team toward a common goal, but extremely dangerous if everyone is jumping off a bridge so you decide it is a good idea because everyone else is going for it), so people are trying to conform and please. This is a terrible, tragic situation and I hope that the students who have been harmed will heal.

Well from personal experience, I was seeking acceptance and a family at school and also a way to prove that I was 'strong'.

Well, Zeta Phi Beta (NPHC) is at YHC, is that the sorority that you were talking about? http://www.yhc.edu/student-life/camp...greek/chapters

Carnation was the one who initially said it, but I think she is correct. I don't think it was an NPHC, but an NPC that considered colonization.

It all sounds like the plot of a B-movie you'd see at the drive-in. Small town with its dirty secret, powers look the other way and anyone who speaks up pays a bad price. Hope everyone who has really suffered from this finds a way to heal. Referring back to the earlier thread about the school, I keep remembering the comment about the guy who has deeply buried some of his fraternity experiences. Shouldn't be that way. Really, the lid needs to be blown off this thing and the YH Greek system shut down.

That synopsis could be Penn State or Steubenville.

Oh, I know. And I know, too, that this may all be (sadly) true. Where there's smoke and all that. Some of the GCers passing on these stories are people I trust not to just spread gossip on something like this. I just would like to see more on it, that's all.

It is probably the ugly truth about a lot of little places throughout this country...definitely can't judge a book by its cover.

Forgive me if I've made a mistake (I'm on some meds that make me a little wonky), but when I googled "Young Harris" hazing , they served me up over 22k search results.

No, I doubt you made a mistake. (Though from what I can tell, the 22K+ results included everything with "young" and "Harris," not just "Young Harris.")

I probably shouldn't have said "all." The "all" I refered to were the hits on the first couple of pages. I would have been more accurate had I said "the top hits as I'm seeing them on the first few pages . . ."

Obviously there could be more buried in there, but I was operating under the assumption that any news about the lawsuit would have to be recent and therefore any google hits would likely be up top -- though I might have done better on narrowing it all had I included "complaint," "sued" or "lawsuit" in the search.

Sorry for not being clearer. Either way, I'm still not finding much in the way of reports or articles other than the Courhouse News article.

The fact that Steubenville has dirty secrets is no secret to anyone within spitting distance. I'd also hardly consider either place a "small" town.

The lawyer representing the student and faculty has set up a website looking for "witnesses and information" regarding hazing at Young Harris College, past or present. There's also a link to the full legal filing for anyone interested.

http://jamesradford.com/yhc/

I wish it was possible to submit information completely anonymously.

I think you probably could respond anonymously, but they're trying to get as much information from named witnesses because that would be admissible in court (whereas anonymous submissions wouldn't). But if you have specific information that might help their investigation (tips or things to check out, names or dates, specific incidents), that might still be worth submitting without your name.

I am one of the attorneys representing the Plaintiffs in this case. We would greatly appreciate any information anyone can provide on hazing at YHC through the above link. Colleen is right, you may respond to the above form anonymously; however, it would be much more helpful if you could give us your name and, at least, some contact information. We will not disclose your identity or involve you in the case without first speaking with you to get your consent. If you feel more comfortable you may also email us or contact our offices directly. All of our contact information can be found on our website.

Caleb
www.jamesradford.com

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Is Mama June running this school?