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madmax 12-22-2001 03:05 PM

secret societies
 
Did anyone see the movie Skulls? What do you know about secret societies?

The1calledTKE 12-22-2001 03:10 PM

I know they are real and they are mainly at the Ivy league school. Some of the United State's most powerful leaders such as the Bushes belong to them.

twinstars 12-22-2001 03:22 PM

maybe not so "secret"
 
I know of at least 2 "secret" societies at my non-Ivy college.

madmax 12-22-2001 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
I know they are real and they are mainly at the Ivy league school. Some of the United State's most powerful leaders such as the Bushes belong to them.

I knwo they exist and they have them at Ivy League schools but do you know any details?

Lil_G 12-22-2001 03:37 PM

there was a thread that had the skull and key's website...i remember they refer to themselves as theta kappa nu society and that they have/had over 400 chapters

Betarulz! 12-22-2001 06:00 PM

There are three such secret societies on the campus of Nebraska. There's Theta Nu Epsilon (one of their pins is on sale at e-bay...) Rho Delta (female only) and the Secret Scrollers Society (SSS). So far during first semester they each put out a newsletter that ripped on people in the greek system. They also do a roll call where they make fun of each house. It's funny to read and no really takes them that seriously but of course everyone wonders who is in them and what goes on.

I was looking in some of my chapters history, some correspondence that my roommate put together as his pledge project and TNE was a problem for Beta back in the early part of the 1900s. Now all the actives had told that if anyone found out that a Beta was in one of those organizations they would be stripped of their badge by national, so it's pretty serious stuff I guess.

That's really all I know. I'd be interested to here what else is known.

carnation 12-22-2001 06:34 PM

Oh yeah, there are those 3 at UVa--what are they, Sevens , Imps, and something else? And when someone from the Sevens dies, the chapel bells ring in a certain cadence in the middle of the night. And when a member of a Greek group is chosen for one of those, suddenly the sign of it shows up painted on the house. Wish I could remember the details.

Lil_G 12-22-2001 06:36 PM

...whoops, that's who i meant - theta nu epsilon...i think it was their website where they said each yr. members from 50 different fraternities join, could be wrong.

KSig RC 12-22-2001 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by carnation
Oh yeah, there are those 3 at UVa--what are they, Sevens , Imps, and something else? And when someone from the Sevens dies, the chapel bells ring in a certain cadence in the middle of the night. And when a member of a Greek group is chosen for one of those, suddenly the sign of it shows up painted on the house. Wish I could remember the details.
There's more than that at UVA if I'm not mistaken - Secret 7s, IMP, and Zeta (or just "Z") are the most prominent, but we saw more society tags when we were there last spring . . . pretty cool stuff really.

dzsaigirl 12-22-2001 10:24 PM

I have never heard of that stuff!

DukeBlue 12-22-2001 10:30 PM

I know there's at least one here at Duke...and we're only a pseudo-Ivy. :p

curiouss 12-23-2001 01:05 AM

What's the difference between a SS and a GLO?

TPARose 12-23-2001 02:16 PM

Theres one at Pitt... Its funny, because the memembers arent allowed to say the name, so when you ask them "Are you in XYZ?" They say "Huh?/ What are you takling about... theres no secret society.. thats funny!" instead of saying "No, Im not in XYZ"....
I hope I dont get in trouble because of this ;)

shopgirl 12-24-2001 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by KSig RC


There's more than that at UVA if I'm not mistaken - Secret 7s, IMP, and Zeta (or just "Z") are the most prominent, but we saw more society tags when we were there last spring . . . pretty cool stuff really.



Is that why there are Z's on the sorority houses at UVA? If you look on the Greek Website for UVA sororities they show pictures of each house and I've seen Z's on some, if not all of them.:confused:

valkyrie 12-24-2001 01:16 PM

Here's a link to site shopgirl mentioned (UVA sororities) --

http://www.student.virginia.edu/~isc-uva/chapters.htm

It's pretty cool, because a lot of them have a big Z on the house, or a big IMP, or both. Does anyone know more about this? Do the tags stay there all the time, or do the houses remove them? Would the other sorority members even know who in their house is a member of either group? If your house has both Zs and IMPs, does that create problems? I'm assuming nobody knows how people get into these groups or what they do, since it's a secret, but I'm curious! It's really fascinating.

MoxieGrrl 12-24-2001 06:06 PM

Why have secret societies if there are fraternities/sororities? I don't know enough about ss to answer this question, so maybe someone can help me out on this one....

I mean, what do they do? Is it like "The Skulls" where you get a new car, $$$ in your account, and a tux party with hot babes? :)

AlphaChiGirl 12-24-2001 07:10 PM

If Brown has one, I surely don't know about it (and I'm the sort of person who would have at least HEARD of it). If we have them, they are nowhere near as prominent as Skull and Key or Z/Imp/7. There were probably clubs in the past, but I'm sure the student body wanted to make them co-ed. We've lost a few national fraternities because of it...

AngelPhiSig 12-24-2001 07:47 PM

I just think that is so interesting... huh... :)

twinstars 12-24-2001 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by MoxieGrrl
Why have secret societies if there are fraternities/sororities? I don't know enough about ss to answer this question, so maybe someone can help me out on this one....

I mean, what do they do? Is it like "The Skulls" where you get a new car, $$$ in your account, and a tux party with hot babes? :)

From what I understand, the female secret society at my school has mostly or all sorority members in it. They go through some weird hazing/initiation type stuff, and once they're in, I think they have parties every now and then. I don't think there's really much that they do other than that. Another all-male secret society on my campus always puts fliers with their symbol all over campus late at night so no ones sees them (they supposedly do this wearing scream-type costumes) and sometimes spraypaints their symbol on sorority houses or other places. I think this group actually has some money, and they've donated to the university.

angel_kak 12-25-2001 10:15 PM

I checked out the UVA website also and think this stuff is so cool...if anyone knows anything please post.

I loved the movie Secret Societies but have no clue if that is what is like...From what I've heard it is some rough stuff.

Kirsten

Lil' Hannah 01-03-2002 07:23 PM

I read this in From Here to Fraternity, a mediocre book about Greek life by Robert Egan

"UVA, designed by Thomas Jefferson, is one of the country's most beautiful campuses, buth what strikes a visitor most is not the classically styled red brick buildings, but the symbols 7, Z, and IMP painted all over them. They remain there, not because UVA is too busy to sandblast them, but because UVA is a very Greek and a very tradition-minded school, and they are the symbols for its most traditional and exclusive secret societies.

No one knows who the 7s are. (They might even be graduates.) All they know is that when one dies, the chapel bell rings seven times in the middle of the night. Rumor also has it that when the group makes a donation to a chairity or the school, the numbers are always in sevens (i.e.,$7,777.77).

The Zs and IMPs are less secretive (their names are published and they wear initialed rings), but no one knows exactly what they do. It is knowns that 1. most members are either Greeks or distinguished independents; 2. whenever Z is mentioned, any Zs present must leave the room; 3. the IMPs 'tap' their members by going to their houses in davil costumes, carrying tridents; and 4. any frathouse with a Z or IMP painted on the front has one or more members of that group in it."

valkyrie 01-04-2002 03:12 AM

Wow -- that is so interesting. Thanks for posting it!

Corbin Dallas 01-04-2002 11:59 AM

I've read some of this stuff before. I think the TNE website is http://www.tne.org i checked it out a while back. it's interesting. they allow greeks to join, but many fraternities have clauses against joining this group. also, Lil_G, Theta Kappa Nu is the fraternity that merged with Lambda Chi in 1939 :)

moe.ron 02-17-2004 07:38 AM

bump cause I said so
:)

MysticCat 02-17-2004 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by DukeBlue
I know there's at least one here at Duke...and we're only a pseudo-Ivy. :p
And down the road at the University of North Carolina, there is the Order of the Gimghoul. They have their own castle not far from campus.

katphishchick 02-17-2004 11:48 PM

This thread was interesting and got me thinking and googling....here's a page with info about the UVA secret societies:

http://uvaguides.zapto.org/resources..._societies.asp

azdtaxi 02-18-2004 12:05 AM

These societies have always intrested me so much. Do they have them other places besides ivy league colleges?

sageofages 02-18-2004 12:06 AM

which secret societies are co-ed?

Lil' Hannah 02-18-2004 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by azdtaxi
These societies have always intrested me so much. Do they have them other places besides ivy league colleges?
UVA isn't Ivy League, but by looking at that list posted above, it doesn't look like their secret societies serve much of a purpose, except for the 7 society, which seems more like a Skull and Bones type society. I would imagine a lot of the older private (and public too, for that matter) schools in the Northeast would have secret societies.

AGDAlum 02-18-2004 10:51 AM

The University of Missouri-Columbia has (or had?) a men's SS called Mystical Seven and a women's SS called LSV. (Said to stand for "League of Seven Virgins.")

Each spring a scandal sheet was published called Pi Xi. GLOs whose members were named had Pi Xis spray-painted on their houses.

The "secret society" could be an interesting study for an anthro, soc, or American studies major who needs a project.....

Tom Earp 02-18-2004 05:46 PM

WHOOOOO Pooky Pooky or is it Spooky Spooky?

This is to kewel, neato and fantastic!:D

I am for one amazed daily by the facts of Hoo Doo and Voo Doo from the Livereied Hallow Ground of the Secret Organizations who rule the world.

How do they do this. It is easy the small few with the $$$$$$$ who will rule what the mindless drones will bear!:(

Oh, please let me be one even though I have No $$$$$ but Pure Of Heart!:rolleyes:

Harry S. Truman was a member of Two Organizations of Prominence, Masons and LXA!

Basically My Home Boy would not put up with the other Crappola!:D

ADPiViolet 02-18-2004 09:22 PM

There is a secret societ at Brenau University called HGH Senior Honor Society and only 7 women are chosen from the junior class a year. After they are chosen they cannot leave campus for 7 weeks and then proceed to Panama City for "initiation" or bonding time. It is pretty crazy.

SiKeS 02-19-2004 02:25 AM

Skull and Bones
 
Did a little searching... Found this on Yale's Skull and Bones secret society..

http://skullandcrossbones.org/articl...llandbones.htm

Some interesting stuff...

:p

HollisterDXiChi 02-19-2004 11:12 AM

I guess they're not so secret if everyone knows about them. Speaking of the Skulls , has anyone seen the second part? Was it any good???

Lil' Hannah 02-19-2004 11:28 AM

Everyone knows about them, but their membership is (somewhat) secretive, and you have to take all of these webpages with a grain of salt. But here's another one for you! This was what first piqued my interest in the Skull and Bones, and secret societies in general.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

sairose 02-20-2004 05:25 PM

Wow this stuff is really interesting! I had heard of Skull and Bones but not the other groups. Cool stuff!

DigitalAngel126 03-10-2004 01:29 AM

*Bump*

Question about the letters being on the houses at UGA. If membership is seceretive, how do they know when to put "IMP" or "Z" on a house (i.e. any sorority house)? If they don't know who's in it, how do they know it's one of their own girls??

xyz333 03-10-2004 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MoxieGrrl
Why have secret societies if there are fraternities/sororities? I don't know enough about ss to answer this question, so maybe someone can help me out on this one....

I mean, what do they do? Is it like "The Skulls" where you get a new car, $$$ in your account, and a tux party with hot babes? :)

The difference is, you don't choose which secret society you can and can't belong to. You don't ask to join a secret society like you ask to join a frat/soror during rush, etc. They ask you. The other difference is, secret societies keep their membership very low and very exclusive, and only ask people that have proved themselves to be exemplary in a particular way.

Lil' Hannah 03-10-2004 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
*Bump*

Question about the letters being on the houses at UGA. If membership is seceretive, how do they know when to put "IMP" or "Z" on a house (i.e. any sorority house)? If they don't know who's in it, how do they know it's one of their own girls??

Membership to the Seven Society is the one that's most secretive there (it's at UVA, not UGA). I don't know if IMP and Z members are known on campus, but if they're not chances are there are 40 or so guys living in a house it would be hard to pinpoint exactly who the members of IMP and Z are, but it would be sort of a status thing to have it on your house, kind of like saying "hey, we've got members of our fraternity that are good enough to be in these secret societies."

33girl 03-10-2004 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
*Bump*

Question about the letters being on the houses at UGA. If membership is seceretive, how do they know when to put "IMP" or "Z" on a house (i.e. any sorority house)? If they don't know who's in it, how do they know it's one of their own girls??

The IMPs or Zs put the writing on the houses, not the sorority members. Kind of like someone TPing your trees and it's a status symbol. :)


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