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carnation 12-09-2012 05:45 PM

Duck Dynasty
 
I saw this for the first time yesterday. I can't believe it, but it was great! These guys are obviously more well bred and well-educated than they act but they are masters of comedic (?) timing. I felt for long suffering older brother Willie. And everyone has their Uncle Si, lol.

ADPi95 12-09-2012 05:50 PM

Isn't the show great? I love Uncle Si :)

tinydancer 12-09-2012 09:05 PM

Happy, happy, happy. This is one funny show. I'd like to meet them just as long as they didn't try to serve me frogs legs.

AOII Angel 12-09-2012 09:37 PM

These guys are from my Alma Mater and everyone in LA loves this show. It drives me nuts.

Just interested 12-10-2012 01:58 PM

You're right, Carnation. Daddy Phil went to La Tech and played football with Terry Bradshaw. He taught school for a while before he went in the duck calling business. There are 4 boys but not all of them are a part of the show. They are cousins to a friend of mine so I have been following them from the beginning. I think it is one of the best "reality" shows on TV. It has quite a cult following here in Texas, as you can well imagine.

AOII Angel 12-10-2012 02:04 PM

Phil supposedly was a better QB than Bradshaw but had no interest in going pro.

IndianaSigKap 12-10-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2192762)
Phil supposedly was a better QB than Bradshaw but had no interest in going pro.

The NFL would have interfered with duck season, that's what he said on Leno. I love this show. I got on board last season. I am impressed with the teenagers who all say "Yes ma'am" and "Yes sir" to adults. Even if some of it is scripted or exaggerated for the camera, I'll take it over the mindless Jersey Shore crap any day.

Just interested 12-10-2012 10:07 PM

Phil is also on the inspirational speaker's circuit. He travels around the United States speaking to church groups about his faith.

Old_Row 12-10-2012 10:30 PM

This show is so funny! My daddy and grampa say their duck calls are the best too.

ASTalumna06 12-21-2012 09:51 PM

I just watched this show for the first time the other day.. it's hilarious!

The only thing I can't stand- Jase (spelling?) sounds like someone.. from another show, I believe.. maybe a cartoon? I don't know.. I can't put my finger on who it is exactly..

IrishLake 12-21-2012 10:37 PM

AST, I've thought the same thing. His voice is so familiar. He's my favorite though, along with Uncle Si!

carnation 12-26-2012 12:06 AM

So Blazercheer's boss, a local doctor from Louisiana, was over here the other night and someone mentioned the show. She said, "Those guys are my sister's in-laws!" So funny!

DrPhil 12-18-2013 03:45 PM

I really like this show (and find the Christmas album cute) but may boycott until fools learn to stop alienating power minorities. This isn't about "politically correct". This is about "keep some things to yourself" and "what is your damn point?" GQ knew this guy was just rambling and they intentionally let him bury himself. Funny but not funny.

http://t.entertainment.msn.com/duck-...remarks?toc=TV

amIblue? 12-19-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2253132)
I really like this show (and find the Christmas album cute) but may boycott until fools learn to stop alienating power minorities. This isn't about "politically correct". This is about "keep some things to yourself" and "what is your damn point?" GQ knew this guy was just rambling and they intentionally let him bury himself. Funny but not funny.

http://t.entertainment.msn.com/duck-...remarks?toc=TV

Saw a FB post from an in laws best friend going on and on about how the only people who don't have freedom of speech are the CHRISTIANS because the LIBERALS even when what the CHRISTIANS are saying jives with the MUSLIM beliefs (i.e. homosexuality). It made my head hurt, but I think the essence was "poor white people." Also, the spiel ended with a comment about how Phil should pull the plug on the show because that would show A&E. (as if the network is worried about generating more publicity for this show.)

DrPhil 12-19-2013 12:37 AM

He has been suspended.

http://t.entertainment.msn.com/duck-...omments?toc=tv

@ amIblue? Most people are clueless regarding the doctrine of other religions. If they took the time to learn about other religions they would find many similarities with their own religion. I think we've discussed this before on GC (religions started off as cults and can still be perceived as cults; humans are a trip and will use religion to justify their ignorance). Christianity is not the only religion that supposedly perceives homosexuality negatively. I disagree with all religions regarding many things and those many things are the ties that bind different religions.

amIblue? 12-19-2013 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2253169)
He has been suspended.

http://t.entertainment.msn.com/duck-...omments?toc=tv

@ amIblue? Most people are clueless regarding the doctrine of other religions. If they took the time to learn about other religions they would find many similarities with their own religion. I think we've discussed this before on GC (religions started off as cults and can still be perceived as cults; humans are a trip and will use religion to justify their ignorance). Christianity is not the only religion that supposedly perceives homosexuality negatively. I disagree with all religions regarding many things and those many things are the ties that bind different religions.

I agree with you that there are many similarities among religions; I just couldn't figure out how the Muslims got singled out (in all caps) in this conversation and what exactly they had to do with Duck Dynasty. I found the train of thought sad and mind blowing.

Actually, I do know because there is a large contingent in this area who are hell bent on trying to run a decades old established mosque out of town, so I think the thinking is that if LIBERALS (again all caps) are okay with MUSLIMS (all caps) hating on homosexuality (because of course) then LIBERALS ought to be okay with CHRISTIANS (all caps) hating on homosexuality.

DrPhil 12-19-2013 09:53 AM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ay_tirade.html

This guy is a complete dumbass. Scroll down the article to what he said about Black people. As one commenter said, this idiot doesn't get the point that the Blacks were always the workers and never (extremely rare) the owners of the land. The poor white workers were working alongside the Blacks because of social class whereas the Blacks were working because of an intersection of social class and race. And there were still racial divides. The poor whites weren't allies with Blacks. Some of the poor whites eventually owned their own land (more likely to do so than Blacks). The poor whites worked their own land thus physically developing the "red necks". The poor whites often found Blacks and other underprivileged nonwhites to work the land.

He also doesn't understand the history of Negro Spirituals and singing while working, in general. Slaves around the world, laborers, and prison inmates historically and presently sing while working and during "leisure time". That doesn't mean they are happy and well treated, dumbass.

I now believe the Duck Dynasty family is a bunch of Bible thumpers who have escaped criticism because they appealed to the American Dream and poor-turned-rich sensibility. I appreciate their expressions of faith but I doubt this dumbass is the only one in that family who holds these ideologies.

This guy has a right to an opinion and to run his mouth. Those of us who disagree have a right to respond and to boycott the show if we choose. Suspending him from the show will not keep me from boycotting the show.

*winter* 12-19-2013 09:57 AM

Apparently he doesn't like gay people either...

http://www.glaad.org/blog/ae-network...ti-gay-remarks

It's pretty offensive, the things he says in the name of "Christianity."

DrPhil 12-19-2013 10:14 AM

This controversy and suspension happened because of what he said about homosexuality. That's why I bumped this thread.

What he said about Blacks has received much less attention because his comments are considered cluelessly ignorant but not prejudiced.

ASTalumna06 12-19-2013 02:28 PM

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news...asty-star?lite

1) Why politicians feel a need to publicly respond to this, I don't know.

2) It makes me sad that they don't even know that Freedom of Speech protects you from government, not from A&E firing your a$$ because you're a loud-mouthed bigot.


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“I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV.* In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive,” Jindal said. “But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views.* In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.”

......

Former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin expressed her support for Robertson in a Facebook post.

“Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us,” she said.

amIblue? 12-19-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2253242)
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news...asty-star?lite

1) Why politicians feel a need to publicly respond to this, I don't know.

2) It makes me sad that they don't even know that Freedom of Speech protects you from government, not from A&E firing your a$$ because you're a loud-mouthed bigot.

1. Yes

2. OMG, yes!

Kevin 12-19-2013 03:45 PM

So apparently Jindal believes we have a Constitutional right to a show on A&E.. wish I knew that before I spent all that time in college.

candygirl200413 12-20-2013 02:55 AM

Although I don't agree with his opinion, I do agree that yes he does have the right to say what he wants.
But I feel like people forget that while yes you can say your opinion, expect ANY type of backlash. Whether of course you agree with it or not.

DrPhil 12-20-2013 08:07 AM

And this issue isn't really about Freedom of Speech. There is so much embedded in this that they are hiding behind Freedom of Speech.

The people who keep crying Freedom of Speech in these situations are typically hypocrites with more socially conservative viewpoints (conservatives are the ones rallying behind Duck Dynasty) who want people to be punished when something is said that offends their sensibilities. Most of them rarely cry Freedom of Speech when someone expresses a perceivably negative yet honest (and sometimes accurate) opinion of something they hold dear like Christianity, for example. They see themselves as spreading "the gospel" under Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion because they falsely believe this is a conservative Christian country and they hold THE TRUTH (not just opinions). Everyone else with viewpoints are heathens flapping in the wind and that includes other Christians whose different viewpoints aren't "real Christianity."

AOII Angel 12-20-2013 09:31 AM

Being that I am originally from Louisiana and went to college in Duck Dynasty territory, you can only imagine what my FB wall looks like right now. :roll eyes: Anyway, I can across this blog post that I thought was a must read for anyone that was indignant about Phil having his "First amendment rights trampled because he was just telling the Truth!" I try to divorce the horrible opinions being spouted from the people. I try. Anyway, give it a read.
http://theboeskool.com/2013/12/19/5-...-dynasty-mess/

DrPhil 12-20-2013 11:39 AM

Thanks for that good article.

Of course the comments section is funny. I dislike it when people say "she/he who is without sin cast the first stone." I especially dislike that phrase from people who think they are supporting the rights of marginalized people. No, you're not protecting homosexuals with that phrase. You are equating homosexuality with sin and telling people not to judge.

amIblue? 12-20-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2253306)
Being that I am originally from Louisiana and went to college in Duck Dynasty territory, you can only imagine what my FB wall looks like right now. :roll eyes: Anyway, I can across this blog post that I thought was a must read for anyone that was indignant about Phil having his "First amendment rights trampled because he was just telling the Truth!" I try to divorce the horrible opinions being spouted from the people. I try. Anyway, give it a read.
http://theboeskool.com/2013/12/19/5-...-dynasty-mess/

I can only imagine what your FB feed looks like given the Louisiana comnection because mine makes me want to poke my eyes out with a crochet hook. Going to have to stay off FB until Christmas Eve and everyone starts making the obligatory Christmas yadda yadda happy blessed yadda yadda posts.

DrPhil 12-20-2013 12:36 PM

Inside the decision to suspend:

http://t.entertainment.msn.com/duck-...bertson?toc=tv

Psi U MC Vito 12-20-2013 12:59 PM

I love how the one comment aid it was obvious the author of the blog hadn't read the First Amendment, yet had no idea what the First Amendment actually said. Also, why are the group that are normally so for the free market and letting corporations making their own decisions so angry about what a private corporation did? There was one comment how this was activism and not the free market. But aren't the two fairly closely related?

33girl 12-20-2013 01:14 PM

The funniest part of all this is how people think the programming executives at A & E actually watch, enjoy, or relate to the current programming on A & E.

pshsx1 12-20-2013 01:20 PM

I read a post from a former Facebook friend (defriended his ass quick) that explained how Christians are being discriminated against and how liberals are being racist toward white people.

lololololol

ASTalumna06 12-20-2013 01:32 PM

I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

:rolleyes:

ThetaPrincess24 12-20-2013 01:37 PM

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from ramifications or ruffled feathers from what you say or how you choose to say it, whether one agrees with what was said or not. This family has a show on A&E. A&E is a private corporation as far as I know. Right, wrong, ridiculous, justified, or whatever, they have the right to air or suspend whatever from their network for whatever reason they like. I really don't look at it anymore than a business decision...and with any business decision there are both positive and negative consequences to the decision.

I say let the market decide. If people want to watch or boycott the show, let the people/viewers decide. If people want to watch or boycott A&E, let the people/viewers decide the fate. It isn't like there aren't other channels out there to watch. A&E will figure out what to do later if it hurts their bottom line and likewise for the Robertson Family.

As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion. :)

pshsx1 12-20-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2253332)
I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

:rolleyes:

Also, it's different when a man says it versus when a woman says it.

Paula Deen says something racist, she's a bigot and a bitch.

Duck dude says something, he's a champion of morals and truth.

:|

candygirl200413 12-20-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 2253335)
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from ramifications or ruffled feathers from what you say or how you choose to say it, whether one agrees with what was said or not. This family has a show on A&E. A&E is a private corporation as far as I know. Right, wrong, ridiculous, justified, or whatever, they have the right to air or suspend whatever from their network for whatever reason they like. I really don't look at it anymore than a business decision...and with any business decision there are both positive and negative consequences to the decision.

I say let the market decide. If people want to watch or boycott the show, let the people/viewers decide. If people want to watch or boycott A&E, let the people/viewers decide the fate. It isn't like there aren't other channels out there to watch. A&E will figure out what to do later if it hurts their bottom line and likewise for the Robertson Family.

As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion. :)

Agree with everything you said to a T!

DrPhil 12-20-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2253332)
I keep wondering why everyone wasn't yelling "Free speech!" when the whole Paula Deen thing went down. Is Robertson more likeable, and therefore, he should get a pass?

:rolleyes:

Some of her supporters did try the Freedom of Speech thing just as with Chik-Fil-A. I think the Chik-Fil-A thing is more similar to the Duck Dynasty situation. Paula Deen's supporters said she was being unfairly persecuted and presumed guilty. They also said that some of the things she believes are just part of her upbringing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24
As for the show itself, I would be shocked if the family does not stick together along the lines of, 'ban one of us and you ban us all" or something like that. The show is so enormously popular despite what was said, that I think other networks would be in line to pick them up should things not work out with A&E. Will it be popular on another network? Again, let the market/viewers decide.

On a different note, it bothers me a bit that this is such big news. No one would give a flip what he said if he wasn't on TV. I'd rather see more newsworthy stories--like the grossly under-reported issues of human trafficking (sex & labor) going on in the U.S., or how the government abuses its power every day and has been for decades, unnecessary excessive force from police, military benefits going down the toilet, etc.--a.k.a. real problems/issues. Or, maybe report on some feel good stories for this time of year of people helping other people/putting others first before themselves.

Just my opinion. :)

There was talk of the entire family no longer doing the show. We shall see

Of course we are hearing so much about this because of fame just as he was interviewed for GQ because of fame. That goes without saying. But it isn't true that no one would care if it wasn't for fame. Fewer people knowing about something doesn't mean those who do know will not respond. Non-famous people get responded to or punished everyday when they can't keep certain words and actions to themselves.

ThetaPrincess24 12-20-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2253341)
But it isn't true that no one would care if it wasn't for fame. Fewer people knowing about something doesn't mean those who do know will not respond. Non-famous people get responded to or punished everyday when they can't keep certain words and actions to themselves.

Point taken, but I still don't find this story being as newsworthy as it has become in light of other issues out there. :)

DrPhil 12-20-2013 02:17 PM

:) I understand what you're saying but it is easier for members of the power majority to say a topic has expired and there's more important news. This topic has only been discussed for a few days. If we had a GC thread to rank news stories based on perceived relevance and time that should be spent discussing them, I'm positive opinions would vary and it would spark a good GC debate. For goodness sake, CNN keeps showing me Dennis Rodman's ugly ass making himself into a diplomat. LOL. But they are showing it for a larger issue beyond Rodman's ugly ass. Likewise, there is a larger point being made beyond Duck Dynasty.

whiteviolet 12-20-2013 02:50 PM

I'm of the opinion that this entire controversy is fabricated by A&E. He'll be off the show for an episode or two, they'll have a 'Welcome back Phil' extravaganza, ratings will shoot up... :rolleyes:

ChioLu 12-20-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2253341)
There was talk of the entire family no longer doing the show. We shall see

One can only hope, Dr. Phil.

The Bible also preaches Love.
Maybe the Duck Dynasty folks forgot about that part.

It is ironic that people use the Bible to uphold prejudice.


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