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jcm1152 10-11-2012 04:31 PM

Am I free to join another sorority if I'm nationally terminated?
 
I joined SororityA at University but transferred shortly after b/c of financial aid and another school had a better academic & financial offering for me. I've received emails from nationals saying to sign a form for an update- if I don't I'll be nationally terminated. I love my sorority and my Big & my soon to be twin but I am going to another university and I only experienced sorority life for a short time. I've read forums about transferring & not being able to join another sorority "ever, never ever forever.... Ever" but if I'm nationally terminated- kicked out by the head honchos- am I STILL unable to join another one? Does that basically soil my name w/ NPC?
PLEASE don't chew me out or see me as a sorority jumper or anything, I'm just curious.

APhi4Ever 10-11-2012 04:37 PM

Are you initiated in sorority A and is it an NPC member sorority?

summer_gphib 10-11-2012 04:37 PM

The search function is your friend.

First, were you initiated? If not you should be able to rush at your new school and join another sorority, as far as I know-- others here would know more.

If you HAVE been initiated, you can probably go alum, or try to see about joining the chapter of your sorority at your new school, if there is one, and if they will permit it. You need to contact your nationals if this is the case.

And if you HAVE been initiated joining another NPC is out of the question. You might be eligible to join a local if they have them at your new school.

KDCat 10-11-2012 04:39 PM

No. If you initiated, you cannot join another NPC sorority, even if you are kicked out.

My advice is to do whatever it takes to stay in good standing with your nationals. You might want to participate as an alumna.

amIblue? 10-11-2012 04:43 PM

As Taylor Swift might sing: you are never ever going to get together (with another NPC sorority) if you were initiated.

AZTheta 10-11-2012 04:49 PM

No.

And... you'll be terminated if you don't "sign a form for an update" ??? Can you please elaborate? This has piqued my curiousity.

Members in good standing go MIA all the time; they move, get transferred, whatever, and don't update their info with Headquarters. However, we don't terminate members if we don't have a current address for them. At least, my NPC GLO doesn't. I can't speak for the other 25 NPC GLOs.

Methinks there is a little more to this story.

etadrisophila 10-11-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcm1152 (Post 2184093)
I joined SororityA at University but transferred shortly after b/c of financial aid and another school had a better academic & financial offering for me. I've received emails from nationals saying to sign a form for an update- if I don't I'll be nationally terminated. I love my sorority and my Big & my soon to be twin but I am going to another university and I only experienced sorority life for a short time. I've read forums about transferring & not being able to join another sorority "ever, never ever forever.... Ever" but if I'm nationally terminated- kicked out by the head honchos- am I STILL unable to join another one? Does that basically soil my name w/ NPC?
PLEASE don't chew me out or see me as a sorority jumper or anything, I'm just curious.

I admit confusion. You've already transferred or you plan to transfer? You're getting a twin (but you're transferring?)

Can you please clarify and perhaps explain this situation in a linear fashion?

knight_shadow 10-11-2012 05:16 PM

My first thought

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gement-day.jpg

/no other contributions

amIblue? 10-11-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2184101)
No.

And... you'll be terminated if you don't "sign a form for an update" ??? Can you please elaborate? This has piqued my curiousity.

Members in good standing go MIA all the time; they move, get transferred, whatever, and don't update their info with Headquarters. However, we don't terminate members if we don't have a current address for them. At least, my NPC GLO doesn't. I can't speak for the other 25 NPC GLOs.

Methinks there is a little more to this story.


We do not terminate MIA members, either, so that's 2 of the 26.

ASTalumna06 10-11-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2184105)
We do not terminate MIA members, either, so that's 2 of the 26.

Neither do we. That's 3.

DubaiSis 10-11-2012 06:45 PM

Neither do we. That's 4. Could you imagine?

I started an alumnae chapter several years ago and the biggest thing I had to do was wade through the list and try to make updates. We would have been terminating HUNDREDS of members if that were the case and that was in just one metro area.

My guess is she never finished paying her new member fees.

carnation 10-11-2012 07:09 PM

We don't, that's 5.

Smile_Awhile 10-11-2012 07:10 PM

We don't either... we just call them "lost sisters" in the database. We do occasionally receive e-mails asking if we know any "lost sisters" personally, to get them to update their info!

So 5 out of 26 don't do so.

Titchou 10-11-2012 07:14 PM

And we don't - so that's 6

WCsweet<3 10-11-2012 07:15 PM

I'm pretty sure we are 7. I haven't heard of us doing this anyway.

Mevara 10-11-2012 08:02 PM

So it looks like these groups do not terminate "MIA" members:
Alpha Chi Omega
AST
Kappa Delta
Kappa
TriDelta
Theta
Pi Phi

I guessed the affiliations from either username or signatures.

thetalady 10-11-2012 08:05 PM

So, OP, we are interested in hearing something that makes a little bit more sense...

greekdee 10-11-2012 09:01 PM

Add Phi Mu to the list. We don't terminate the missing sis either -- but we are very glad if and when she's found again. :)

TPA85 10-11-2012 09:43 PM

and Theta Phi.

Sciencewoman 10-11-2012 09:55 PM

Gamma Phi Beta doesn't either.

However, in instances where a member leaves with a large outstanding chapter bill, she is not considered to be in good standing, and efforts are made to collect what is owed. When I read the OP's post, the first thought that came to mind was that she may still owe money to the chapter, and her IH is trying to collect.

Titchou 10-11-2012 10:09 PM

And Delta Gamma

BrandonPKT 10-11-2012 10:10 PM

I know it sucks you can't have greek life, but personally I don't think you should WANT to join another organization. You join yours for a reason...because it's where you belong. Those are YOUR letters now. IMO I wouldn't ever want any other letters

DoctorD 10-11-2012 10:49 PM

Suspension only occurs if there is cause.

Otherwise, in Alpha Gam, you're a lost sister if you disappear.

So, there's another.

AOII Angel 10-11-2012 11:22 PM

We rip those letters away ASAP...you'd better get that update back quick! JJ...add AOII to the list of groups that don't drop sisters just for being off the radar. I agree that she probably left in bad standing.

amIblue? 10-11-2012 11:37 PM

So the list is now

AOII
DG
AGD
Theta Phi
Phi Mu
Alpha Chi
KD
KKG
AST
Theta
Pi Phi
Tri Delta
Gamma Phi

13! I hate typing on my phone!

AZ-AlphaXi 10-11-2012 11:48 PM

Add Alpha Xi Delta to the list ... sisters are just listed as lost.

AZTheta 10-12-2012 01:35 AM

waiting on
ZTA
ASA
AEPhi
SDT
Phi Sigma
Tri Sigma
DZ
SK
Alpha Phi
ADPi
DPhiE
ChiO

Wonder which one the OP is a member of? This has the potential to go off the rails, does it not? (cue hopeful tone of voice; it's been too long since there's been a good wreck). Realistically, on second thought ... then again, not going to say it. Practicing restraint (although it's killing me).

(To any of the NPHC ladies or MCGC ladies reading, the OP said she was in an NPC group; if your group does not terminate members who have gone MIA, and you want to be added to the list, you are more than welcome. Lots of place settings at my table!).

ChioLu 10-12-2012 08:01 AM

I'm pretty sure Chi O doesn't either
(though 1 exception might be if they are not in good financial standing ...
i.e. left without paying for initiation fees or their pin!)

FSUZeta 10-12-2012 08:45 AM

ZTA does not terminate lost sisters.

LibOzZoHam 10-12-2012 09:18 AM

DZ does not either. Most of my pledge class is "lost" but none have been terminated.

33girl 10-12-2012 09:49 AM

ASA doesn't terminate lost or left-school-early sisters. As sciencewoman said, debtors may not be in good standing, but they won't be terminated.

ForeverRoses 10-12-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChioLu (Post 2184209)
I'm pretty sure Chi O doesn't either
(though 1 exception might be if they are not in good financial standing ...
i.e. left without paying for initiation fees or their pin!)

That's what I am thinking. The letter wasn't so much an "update your info or get terminated" as much it was a "update your payment information or get terminated".

purpleandpearls 10-12-2012 11:16 AM

DPhiE reporting here...I haven't heard of this happening and we had a lot of sisters seemingly drop off the face of the planet.

konane 11-07-2012 03:44 PM

I am curious about the actual circumstances of person who originally posted.
Was she initiated before transfering or after?
As a former Recruitment/Membership adviser for an NPC group, these are some of the scenarios I have gone through with CIMS (change in membership status).
Many of the NPC groups have turned all the financials over to something called Omega Fi ... If this woman hasn't officially signed off on her financial commitment (as in leaving school) the chapter is paying for her as someone on the chapter roll, whether initiated or not. The chapter would like to not be doing that so she needs to give them an official answer about transferring
If she was not initiated, and this sounds more like the case, she would have received a letter notifying her that her 'pledge' is being terminated. That would be 'nationally' terminated.
If she were to remain at the same campus (believe this is standard) she is not free to join another NPC group until a year after she signed her initial bid card and/or went through New Member Service.
However, if she has transferred prior to initiation she is free to go through recruitment at her new school.
If she was initiated and transferring to a school that had her NPC chapter, then she should inquire about affiliation and become a member of that chapter. She would have to be in good standing to do so, financially and otherwise.
If she was initiated and there is no chapter at her new school, and she is in good standing, she should look into the alumnae club in the area.

APhi4Ever 11-07-2012 04:07 PM

Alpha Phi does not terminate lost members. A member is listed lost if her contact information is no longer accurate.

APhi4Ever 11-07-2012 04:11 PM

So the list is now:
AOII
DG
AGD
TPA
Phi Mu
AXO
KD
KKG
AST
KAO
Pi Phi
Tri Delta
GPhiB
AXiD
Alpha Phi
XO
ZTA
DZ
ASA
DPhiE

Still needing:
AEPhi
SDT
Phi Sigma Sigma
Tri Sigma
SK
ADPi

SydneyK 11-07-2012 07:33 PM

I'd say that our OP has just accepted the fact that she cannot join one NPC sorority after she's been initiated into another. Since (practically) a month has passed since her last (first and only) post, I doubt there's a need to keep contributing to this thread for her benefit. Of course, people might want to keep contributing to the list of NPCs which terminate lost sisters just for the fun of it...

kateee 11-07-2012 09:21 PM

Chi O won't let you get initiated if your new member dues are not paid. You just will not become active until you get the money in. And we don't terminate missing members, they are lost sisters until we find their whereabouts.

ASUADPi 11-07-2012 09:38 PM

ADPi doesn't terminate membership based on a sister moving and not updating her contact information.

We have a long process to terminate a membership, as I'm sure the other NPC's do as well.

trisigma212 11-08-2012 07:10 PM

Tri Sigma doesn't terminate due to loss of contact. Just because you don't update your contact information doesn't mean they can strip you of anything. Termination is very serious, like I'm sure it is with any other group. Since the OP hasn't posted again, I'm sure that it was something else and not just forgetting to update information, if it was even that to begin with. She may just not be in good standing and not terminated. But who knows. The OP flounced and we will never know.


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