UCLA 2012 Recruitment
 

UCLA Recruitment started Tuesday, 9/25.

Schedule:
Tuesday, 9/25 - Open House Day (part 1) -- 11 parties total in 1st round
Wednesday, 9/26 - off day (Jewish holiday)
Thursday, 9/27 - Open House Day (part 2)
Friday, 9/28 - House Tours -- full round would be 8 parties
Saturday, 9/29 - Entertainment Round -- full round would be 5 parties
Sunday, 9/30 - Pref. (morning) -- full round would be 2 parties
Bid Night (7pm)

Here are the chapters at UCLA (alphabetical order):
Alpha Chi
ADPi
Alpha Phi
Chi O
Tri Delta
DG
Gamma Phi
Theta
KD
Kappa
Pi Phi

Total signing up for Recruitment is 845
(down just slightly from last year, which was 907)
After the 1st half of Open House round, 785 women are still in the process. Per Greek Life (I am quoting them) estimated quota is 58 (as of Thursday noon).

Prior to start of Recruitment, all chapters were at quota or very close.

Note: Alpha Gamma Delta is recolonizing at UCLA Fall of 2013. AGD kept their house (right next to Gamma Phi) and will be renovating this year (probably have already started).

You mean total right?

Glad to hear they are all at or near total... about 10 years ago, most of the chapters were not and were doing COB every QUARTER.

Thanks for the updates! When you say that all houses are at or close to total (I assume you meant total instead of quota), which number is that? Isn't total floating and set after fall formal recruitment? And several chapters recruited in the spring.. were they all able to recruit up to total? That's unusual, but great news.

BTW... I'm going to put my money on Quota = 51.

Yes, meant Total.
My job starts at 2am (wake up at 12:30am). I was getting "fuzzy-brain" by 1:27pm Thursday.

Additionally, I corrected by 1st post that AGD is re-colonizing Fall 2013 (next year), not this fall.
The following school year -- predicted Fall 2014 -- Alpha Xi Delta will be re-colonizing at UCLA. They are working to secure housing on Hilgard Ave. (sorority row).

At one time, there were 23 sororities at UCLA (now 11 + AEPhi -- see footnote below) As chapters closed, many they sold their houses. While the W Hotel in Westwood now stands on what was 2 sororities lots, another few were torn down to become apartment buildings, but several became boarding houses (with little floorplan change). AZD is securing 1 of those boarding houses. The plans that were shown at the expansion presentations were gorgeous.

The hope is that, with a growing recruitment, other GLOs that are invited to UCLA will have the ability to purchase/lease the existing boarding houses (which were all originally sorority houses) and, one day, become a full sorority row once again. (And they lived happily ever after ...) :D


Footnote: AEPhi, from their HQ & local alumnae, wants to get back to their roots as a Jewish sorority. With permission of UCLA Panhellenic, they are not closing the chapter, but also not participating in Recruitment -- either formal or informal. In "Idle Mode" and will re-establish when they are ready.

A little surprised that the number of women that registered for recruitment was down from last year! My impression from reading GC this fall recruitment season is that registration numbers have been on an up-tick.

Also--would LOVE a UCLA recruitment story!!!! Fingers crossed!

They still have some active sisters though, right?

AEPhi current members may be taking alumnae status. I'll try to confirm that.

Today is 5 party day (Entertainment), then Sunday is Pref. (2 parties).
Since parties are going from 5 to 2, I'm sure you can imagine what that means .... (besides that I'll be up LATE to help with voting session).

My daughter went to ucla and it is a tough recruitment schedule for the actives. Parties go late into the evening (10:00 pm +), then voting, then take down and set up for the next day. The weekend is tough because they finish parties in the evening today and then have the first pref party tomorrow at 9:00 am!! Lists of who is coming to party #1 and party #2 usually arrive to rush chairs at around 4:00 am!! Then they do the matching for the parties!! Crazy!! They all manage to pull in off without a (visible) hitch though and they look beautiful all the while!!

Good luck to all of the UCLA sororities this year!!

Just a question -- has anyone ever likened this type of schedule to hazing (i.e. overwork and sleep deprivation)? I've never been through it, so I simply don't know.

I'm sure at some point someone has. I'm sure people have also compared hazing with sponsoring homecoming candidates (putting women on display to be unfavorably judged by men); intramurals or Greek week (athletic activity beyond normal everyday exercise); and living in the house (forced constant interaction with members).

When rush is a huge production with tons of rushees as it is at this school, I'm wagering that the women would rather do it this way than drag it out for a month. If they hated it too much, they could change the schedule. Panhellenic is the ones who decide on it, not the national orgs, the school administration or adult advisors/volunteers.

P.S. We are old. We do not remember how you can go on adrenaline for as long as you can at ages 18-21.

Having been through the almost month long recruitment process (albeit a long time ago), I would much rather have had this short-but-crazy schedule. When you're young, it's sort of fun, I imagine. :) The drawn out recruitment is tiring and not helpful for academics or anything else.

In the 20 years since I joined, UCLA lists have never been distributed at 4 am except for preference schedules, which would be distributed earlier if people got their lists in on time.

Usually UCLA lists are due at 7 a.m. Preference lists are the exception, and they were due 30 minutes ago.

UCLA's Total resets to Median Chapter Size rounded down to the closest 0 or 5 at the conclusion of bid matching. That means that going into recruitment 1/2 the chapters are at or above Total. It also means there is always some room for COB.

Median chapter size going into recruitment was 104.

Is there any kind of guarantee about receiving a bid as long as you maximize your options? One of my very good friends from high school is participating in UCLA's rush right now and I'm afraid to ask her about the details. She's very nervous about bid night.

I'm a member of a GLO at Ole Miss, so the rules/regulations/norms of other recruitment processes are a little bit confusing to me.

Only Tufts and maybe one other place "guarantee" you a bid. Others are all the same if they use RFM - as both Ole Miss and UCLA do. Your odds are more than very good if you maximize your options. There is always a chance, though small, that you won't get a bid but she should feel pretty secure that she woudld get one if she followed all the rules and got to pref.

Thank you, Titchou! She did maximize her options, but with how nervous she is I was just curious. We'll know tonight I guess!

Maybe ChiOLu can give some post recruitment stats?? How many of the original group voluntarily dropped out of recruitment? How many bids went out? Finally, what was quota this year?

Are bids handed out at 5:30/6:00 pm tonight? I am excited because I know several girls going through this year!!

I found that the sleep deprivation and insane workload of recruitment as a VPM was great preparation for residency. When I hit intern year, I already knew that I could go for two solid weeks with practically no sleep and remain ruthlessly efficient. The only difference is that when you're the intern on call and have twelve admissions overnight, you don't have to do them with perfect hair and makeup!

IF you maximize your options at UCLA, it is HIGHLY LIKELY a PNM will receive a bid. (There are tons of threads why it's not 100%, but "highly likely".)

UCLA has QAs (Quota Additions) -- if you are ONLY invited to ONE Pref party, it is HIGHLY LIKELY a PNM will receive an invite to that group.
This does NOT mean SIP/Single Intentional Preference (aka "Suicide"/only listing 1 GLO when you went to 2 parties for Pref).

And since UCLA has a large # of upperclassmen (due to transfers), there is a high UC quota (2-digit) and MOST chapters maximize the UC quota because there are so many women who have stellar qualifications (grades, activities, leadership, philanthropy, etc.).

Finally, UCLA has a good # of International Students who are at the university for just 1 year (their "study abroad" program) and these women can be "IQAs" -- International Quota Additions, that are not counting in quota.

So for an EXAMPLE, if quota is 58 with 42 freshmen and 16 upperclassmen (or rather, upperclasswomen), a New Member Class could go well beyond 58 with quota, QAs & International QAs. With all NMs added in, it's not uncommon to go 2-digits above quota.

More women in Greek Life!

And there was much rejoicing ...

I really love the idea of International QAs for women who are there short term!

Dating myself when posting but my senior year 1976 at UCLA was one of the largest recruitments in the country at the time (believe 1200 plus). believe total was 170, quota 54. 18 houses, 2 9 party days for open house.Skit round 12 parties, House tours 8, then 4 parties (believe we did philanthropy), Preference 2 Soooo looking forward to Alpha Gam-Delta Epsilon being back on the row next fall. Back in the day you were guaranteed a bid if you did not 'suicide' before pref. Not sure how much has changed.

Primary pool Quota was 31. Secondary was 19.

Oh, I do too!

Chi Omega has 52 New Members!

ETA #s:
Alpha Phi -- 55
Delta Gamma -- 55
Gamma Phi Beta -- 56
These are from Facebook. No numbers listed on twitter.
(will get official #s from Panhellenic in a few days & update)

Yes! And Gamma Phi is now hovering around 170 in membership! Amazing growth the last couple of years. UCLA could really use those colonies.

What chapter total would UCLA like to have?

I'm no longer advising there, so I don't want to speak for others, but I believe that at least a few of the chapters currently struggle to fit all their members at their houses for meetings and dinner. Total was 115 for many years, and that seemed to be a good number to allow each chapter to fill up their live-in spaces without creating too much excess demand. Most of the houses fit 45-65 women living in. I mentioned in another thread that sometimes sophomores who don't get to live in wind up dropping out because they truly can't afford $2,500-3,500 in live-out dues year after year.

Those are some serious live-out dues. If the chapter house is paid for and full, that actually seems really greedy to me.

Maintenance, replacements and repairs! That stuff adds up fast. My own home seems determined to run me to the poor house.

Updating the Recruitment numbers ...
Quota: Freshmen 31, Upperclass 19 (= 50)
(note: some chapters go over with Quota Additions and International QAs

Alpha Chi Omega - 47
Alpha Delta Pi - 53
Alpha Phi - 55
Chi Omega - 52
Delta Gamma - 55
Gamma Phi Beta - 56

No numbers yet
Delta Delta Delta -- ??
Kappa Alpha Theta -- ??
Kappa Delta -- ??
Kappa Kappa Gamma -- ??
Pi Beta Phi -- ??

Please add if you know.

I've seen facebook posts on each chapters' page welcoming the new members, but few are listing numbers. (Hmmm, since almost every group met/exceeded quota, I wonder why not post?)

Probably to de-emphasize the importance of the actual number. I think we can get caught up in the range of numbers and the chapter that makes exactly quota or misses by a few can be seen as failing when that is not at all the case. As we've discussed, with RFM being what it is, a chapter can have such tight restrictions and be head to head with the same, equally restricted chapters, and end up dividing up an already very small pool.

I wish they would post ALL the numbers, but I guess I can see why a chapter/organization/school would prefer if we didn't.

I could also see it being plain old lack of organization or caring. When it comes to keeping websites, twitter accounts and facebook pages up-to-date, a lot of college chapters just aren't very good at it. I see a lot of updates and activity in the month before recruitment, then it all slows down. I'm sure most of the sisters are focused on loving their new members and getting to work on their classes, but this kind of PR and communication is really an afterthought for many groups.

Here are Recruitment #s from UCLA Panhellenic, as of 10/1/12, with some updates from earlier numbers.

Quota: Freshmen 31, Upperclass 19 (= 50)
(note: some chapters go over with Quota Additions and International QAs)

numbers are Freshman, Upperclass, Total
Alpha Chi Omega - 47 (31, 16, 131)
Alpha Delta Pi - 55 (33, 22, 166)
Alpha Phi - 55 (33, 22, 156)
Chi Omega - 55 (33, 22, 162)
Delta Delta Delta - 50 (34, 16, 121)
Delta Gamma - 54 (34, 20, 157)
Gamma Phi Beta - 56 (33, 23, 167)
Kappa Alpha Theta - 50 (31, 19, 164)
Kappa Delta - 53 (31, 22, 151)
Kappa Kappa Gamma - 53 (31, 22, 161)
Pi Beta Phi - 55 (33, 22, 160)

Panhellenic Chapter Total is now 160. (Avg. chapter size is now 154.)

Good God, the chapters are huge. But then again, it is UCLA. :D

Huge?? they are small compared to Ole Miss standards and Ole Miss's student body is TINY compared to UCLA!

I think they are huge for a California Public University standard. Especially with the number of chapters they have.

I belive only 13% of UCLA students are Greek and that includes ALL GLO's (IFC, NPC, Asian Greek Council, Latino Greek Council, Multi-Interest, NPHC). NPC population is now 1696 women and hopefully adding more as the groups under the 160 total can COB.
You see way more people wearing UCLA hoodies than greek letter clothing.
Isn't the Ole Miss Greek population 25% or more?