Opinions on Local Sororities?
 

Heyy everyone,

I was just wondering, what are some of your opinions on local sororities as opposed to Pan-Hel?

What do you mean?

"Local" sororities are sororities that only have one chapter, so sororities that were started by students and say have only 60 or so members.

Local sororities have minimum standards for membership, too. They are not necessarily "easier" to get into, IF that is what you are thinking. You have plenty of work to do already. Pledge the library and get those grades up!

I have nothing against local sororities. I do, however, disagree with how the locals on my campus choose hazing to prove who is worthy of sisterhood.

^^^ What she said.

Oh no :( I'm sorry that's going on at your school. I just wanted to clarify (as a founder of the local sorority the OP is talking about--we are the only local on our campus) that our house never, ever hazes or condones hazing.

Always AlphaGam, have you thought about reporting the hazing activities to the GLO governing body, or whichever body oversees the locals? Or has this already been done without results? I'd hate to see these houses potentially sullying the reputations of other locals because they might be taking advantage of a (perceived) lack of national oversight.

That's a good one, the locals on that campus have hazed openly for years.

Lay off, Carnation. She doesn't know the situation on whatever campus you are referring to.

"Lay off"?" I think not.:rolleyes:

I already stated the situation. The locals there hazed openly and cruelly right in front of the Lord and everybody. They even hazed in front of the professors and administrators who were eating in the cafeteria. No one batted an eye. I worked with 3 new members who quit soon after the hazing began and they told us hair-raising stories about what happened behind closed doors.

The IFC and Panhellenic alum groups were thrilled when nationals came to campus! Finally, students could see that you could have brother- and sisterhood without running down the new members.

I am told that on many campuses, locals don't haze and maybe they don't at UGa, Xidelt. What I saw at both the last campus where I taught and at AlwaysAlphaGam's campus, though, was intense and cruel.

And so how is PhiAlpha responsible for that? She made a logical and rational suggestion based on what someone posted. I'm not seeing how that warranted your snark.

Wait - time out - or swerve or whatever. OP - you joined a local? You were asking a while back about whether your low GPA would adversely affect your recruitment, if memory serves. So, I gather from your other thread about athletic mixers and what PhiAlpha posted that you now have joined a local? And you want opinions about locals?

I think this thread was posted before she pledged. It just got bumped today.

Hey guys--sorry for the confusion. I'm not sure what the OP ended up doing, actually (though if she has any questions for me, I'm happy to help)--we did pledge a Lindsey this term, but she's a freshman, so definitely not the same girl. I wish the OP the best in whatever she decides about her Greek involvement!

My alma mater's Greek Life is really small blip on the radar. Greeks don't really have a governing body -- they all fall under Student Organizations. The locals on my campus have been around for decades longer than the Inter/National GLOs. I'm pretty sure the administration is aware of it but nothing has been done about it.

What I care about is them sullying the reputations of the houses on campus that DON'T haze. I don't want girls to be turned off from Greek Life altogether just because these locals choose to haze the crap out of these new members.

Again, I have nothing against local sororities. My concern is for the locals on my campus who treat their new members poorly. I fear that one day someone WILL get hurt and my campus does away with fraternities and sororities for good.

Actually, Xidelt, carnation is very well qualified to speak of the campus culture I was referring to as she witnessed it herself when she was a student. From what I gather it was worse then than it was when I was a student. Several of the groups didn't survive, but there are still a few that are still around.

It's very hard to explain how it's like there without giving the campus away. carnation and I were talking specifically about the locals on my campus and this shouldn't be taken as a jab to PhiAlpha or to local sororities as a whole.

Thanks. Obviously didn't follow my own GC cardinal rule which is "look at the dates on the posts." Migraine's got the best of me. :o

I believe Xidelt is operating under the assumption that these are two different campuses (which isn't inherently clear [intentionally?]). If they aren't, it seems like PhiAlpha was trying to make a helpful addition to the thread and carnation's response seems a bit abrasive. If they are the same campus then this all makes sense.

These are two different campuses.

carnation's comment was about locals on MY alma mater. Nothing abrasive about her comment. It's the damn truth. Sure, PhiAlpha was trying to help, but I know and carnation knows that the administration hasn't done squat to stop the hazing.

I don't get what the big friggin' deal is. OP goes to the University of Michigan, as does PhiAlpha. I didn't.

Thinking about all the crossways conversations that sometimes happen here, this came to mind, Always AlphaGam. ;)

Two different universes for locals.
 

In regards to asking about locals, I'd just like to say that I don't think there is that much in common between the following situations. ABC college where Panhel has 14 NPC sororities and there is also a local sorority on campus that started within the last 10 years and DEF college where the administration doesn't allow National Social Fraternities and Sororities and has 7 local sororities and 8 local fraternities and where most of them have been around since World War II. Yes there are a *few* schools that in between these two situations (like Gallaudet), but for the most part any question about Local Sororities needs to establish which of these situations is being talked about.

Exactly....except I'd change that 10 to 5. (1 year in college time = 4 years in real life time, like dog years)

I bow to your superior knowledge and experience... ;)

Well, there's also the third, though rare option: There are locals and NPC's, and at least one of the locals is relatively old and well-established.

There is a local at Eastern Michigan that is older than a lot of NPC groups original founding. That said, it's never as large as the NPCs, but it keeps on going nonetheless.

Yes, that's the "middle" Gallaudet type situation, I mentioned.

Oh, duh, sorry.