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Vitashort 07-27-2012 02:58 PM

Can I get the same experience being in a sorority if I can't live in their house?
 
For a full year i have a contract to be in a dorm or on campus apartment and since its hard to get out of that i have to stay until the year is up so i wont be able to go live in a sorority until my senior year..will i not get the same experience? i do like my space and privacy mostly, but I wanted to be more involved by living with everyone seeing how i am a junior.

knight_shadow 07-27-2012 03:10 PM

Are you in a sorority?

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2162296)
Are you in a sorority?

Not yet, but I figured i should take this into consideration even before rushing. So do you think someone can get the same experience?

knight_shadow 07-27-2012 03:16 PM

Being Greek is about more than being in a house.

This is the last thing you should be worrying about at this stage. You don't even know the rules for living in yet. You're psyching yourself out for nothing.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2162300)
Being Greek is about more than being in a house.

This is the last thing you should be worrying about at this stage. You don't even know the rules for living in yet. You're psyching yourself out for nothing.


Could you elaborate more on what you mean by rules other than the obvious dues and representing the sorority positively?

ASTalumna06 07-27-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162297)
Not yet, but I figured i should take this into consideration even before rushing. So do you think someone can get the same experience?

Why don't you worry about getting into a sorority first?

Will living in a dorm be the same as living in the sorority house? Obviously not. Will it be better or worse? We can't really say. That's up to you to determine. But it'll only be a year before you can live in anyway.

Assuming you actually receive a bid, of course......

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2162303)
Why don't you worry about getting into a sorority first?

Will living in a dorm be the same as living in the sorority house? Obviously not. Will it be better or worse? We can't really say. That's up to you to determine. But it'll only be a year before you can live in anyway.

Assuming you actually receive a bid, of course......

I had a feeling someone would say that, but getting in isn't my concern due to where i live. The last school I went to they accepted everybody. However, I didn't rush there. That's a different topic, however.

If you could explain in your own experience, what are the best things about living in a sorority that you wouldn't be able to get being in a dorm?

knight_shadow 07-27-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162301)
Could you elaborate more on what you mean by rules other than the obvious dues and representing the sorority positively?

"In XYZ Sorority, the only people who live in are sophomores and officers, due to space limitations"

You don't know what the requirements are for living in, so again, you're putting the cart before the horse.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2162307)
"In XYZ Sorority, the only people who live in are sophomores and officers, due to space limitations"

You don't know what the requirements are for living in, so again, you're putting the cart before the horse.

Oh I already know the rules for that.Where i go to school they take juniors and seniors constantly. I have spoken to members in the sorority as well as the council members. So that is why I am not as concerned.

knight_shadow 07-27-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162309)
Oh I already know the rules for that.Where i go to school they take juniors and seniors constantly. I have spoken to members in the sorority as well as the council members.

That has nothing to do with what I posted.

Also, if you speak to sorority members and council members, why not ask them this question?

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2162310)
That has nothing to do with what I posted.

Also, if you speak to sorority members and council members, why not ask them this question?

I thought it did..Juniors and seniors just initiated have lived in the house and this was said by a member.

It just seemed easier to get multiple people's opinions on it here, but I will ask them as well.

agzg 07-27-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162311)
I thought it did..Juniors and seniors just initiated have lived in the house and this was said by a member.

It just seemed easier to get multiple people's opinions on it here, but I will ask them as well.

This is just incredibly hard to answer since all campuses and chapters are different in this regard.

ASTalumna06 07-27-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162306)
I had a feeling someone would say that, but getting in isn't my concern due to where i live. The last school I went to they accepted everybody. However, I didn't rush there. That's a different topic, however.

So getting into a sorority is secondary to living in the house?

Makes sense.

:rolleyes:

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2162314)
So getting into a sorority is secondary to living in the house?

Makes sense.

:rolleyes:

I said it is not as big of a concern because most people get accepted in the schools I have been to. In the one before me everyone got accepted and the one I go to most people do. I'm sorry I'm just not too worried about getting in. I like to be prepared for when I do. It might come off cocky, but it's not. If I do get in and then don't know what to expect that isn't a good thing either. I think you are confused as to what I meant, but that is okay. Have a good night!

Vitashort 07-27-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2162313)
This is just incredibly hard to answer since all campuses and chapters are different in this regard.


That is okay I understand. Thanks anyway!

ree-Xi 07-27-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162315)
I said it is not as big of a concern because most people get accepted in the schools I have been to. In the one before me everyone got accepted and the one I go to most people do. I'm sorry I'm just not too worried about getting in. I like to be prepared for when I do. It might come off cocky, but it's not. If I do get in and then don't know what to expect that isn't a good thing either. I think you are confused as to what I meant, but that is okay. Have a good night!

That's not what the Magic 8 Ball tells me, but if you believe it to be so, good luck with that.

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/%7Essanty/images/1.gif Question: Is Vitashort going to receive a bid?

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2162327)
That's not what the Magic 8 Ball tells me, but if you believe it to be so, good luck with that.

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/%7Essanty/images/1.gif Question: Is Vitashort going to receive a bid?

Aww that was cute, but doesn't make sense because I never said I was getting in 100 percent I just said I chose not to worry about it. It's like people on here want you to stress and worry about it. Some sororities where I live accept everyone, it may not be the exact sorority of your choice, but they accept everyone. I'm not the type to stress about it when I know how good my chances are. Also your magic ball knows nothing about my school. Enjoy the rest of your night and thanks for the good luck wish :)

Shellfish 07-27-2012 05:17 PM

Then why lock yourself into an unbreakable lease?

ree-Xi 07-27-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162328)
Aww that was cute, but doesn't make sense because I never said I was getting in 100 percent I just said I chose not to worry about it. It's like people on here want you to stress and worry about it. Some sororities where I live accept everyone, it may not be the exact sorority of your choice, but they accept everyone. I'm not the type to stress about it when I know how good my chances are. Also your magic ball knows nothing about my school. Enjoy the rest of your night and thanks for the good luck wish :)

:rolleyes:

Old_Row 07-27-2012 05:21 PM

If you know so damn much about your school and Greek Chat doesn't, why do you keep coming back here and asking the most ridiculously lame questions?

ASTalumna06 07-27-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2162331)
If you know so damn much about your school and Greek Chat doesn't, why do you keep coming back here and asking the most ridiculously lame questions?

Goooood question

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellfish (Post 2162329)
Then why lock yourself into an unbreakable lease?

Because I wouldn't have a choice. During recrutiment I am not automatically living with them, I need somewhere to live and I can't commute.

AOII Angel 07-27-2012 05:25 PM

No sorority. Anywhere. Accepts everyone. We all have criteria for membership. You do not know that criteria, and despite what rumors may abound on your campus, you do not know who these groups give their invitations to. PNMs do not have any idea nowadays either since they no longer get all their invitations and have to decline the extras. Some of the women that have full schedules and aren't going back to the lowly chapter that they turn their little noses up at didn't have an invitation there in the first place. They may invite back more women but certainly not everybody. *Off my soapbox*

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2162331)
If you know so damn much about your school and Greek Chat doesn't, why do you keep coming back here and asking the most ridiculously lame questions?

Well if you read my post correctly you would see the person didn't answer my question and instead went off topic about me being a junior which I explained wasn't an issue because I spoke to someone. So once I told them it wasn't an issue and I wasn't stressed about getting in they went off on that. Again not answering my question. I'm not saying I know everything I just know certain things people are asking me to find out which I already know. I just want to know if someone can get the same experience being in a sorority if they live in a dorm. But of course some people on here continue to go off topic NOT answering my orginal question and are volatile.

Only a couple people actually answered my question. If you have a problem with me asking certain questions you aren't obligated to read them, but seeing how some of you love to start drama on here while you are older adults, mostly, it doesn't surprise me that you do.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2162335)
No sorority. Anywhere. Accepts everyone. We all have criteria for membership. You do not know that criteria, and despite what rumors may abound on your campus, you do not know who these groups give their invitations to. PNMs do not have any idea nowadays either since they no longer get all their invitations and have to decline the extras. Some of the women that have full schedules and aren't going back to the lowly chapter that they turn their little noses up at didn't have an invitation there in the first place. They may invite back more women but certainly not everybody. *Off my soapbox*


The last school I went to did and this was said from about 5 people in that sorority that I talked to. They do it where everyone goes somewhere. It might not be allowed or seen as the sorority type thing to do, but they did it. So no, they were not rumors. But thank you for your insight. If you could answer my orginal question though that would be great. Thanks!

AOII Angel 07-27-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162334)
Because I wouldn't have a choice. During recrutiment I am not automatically living with them, I need somewhere to live and I can't commute.

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162339)
The last school I went to did and this was said from about 5 people in that sorority that I talked to. They do it where everyone goes somewhere. It might not be allowed or seen as the sorority type thing to do, but they did it. So no, they were not rumors. But thank you for your insight. If you could answer my orginal question though that would be great. Thanks!

I amend my original post to state there is ONE place that will place everyone who signs up. But nowhere else does. I don't care if 5 people told you the sky is made out of cotton candy, it isn't true.

ree-Xi 07-27-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162339)
The last school I went to did and this was said from about 5 people in that sorority that I talked to. They do it where everyone goes somewhere. It might not be allowed or seen as the sorority type thing to do, but they did it. So no, they were not rumors. But thank you for your insight. If you could answer my orginal question though that would be great. Thanks!

You shouldn't need to even ask this question, because it's common sense.

OF COURSE you can enjoy your sorority membership if the the chapter house and you do not live in it. Even sorority chapters with houses have members living outside the house. And what about the scores of chapters without houses? Do you think that all of those members have crappy experiences simply because they don't live in, or don't even have the option of living in, a sorority house? Not every likes living with a lot of people, so that experience and preference will vary as well.

Now stop obsessing about something you cannot control.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2162340)
I amend my original post to state there is ONE place that will place everyone who signs up. But nowhere else does. I don't care if 5 people told you the sky is made out of cotton candy, it isn't true.

Well maybe that one place is that place. I wouldn't be able to say unless I knew if it was the same school or not. Again I don't understand why this is going off topic.

Anyways..If anybody has had the experiences I am speaking of in terms of living in a dorm vs being in a sorority house please let me know. Thank you.

Old_Row 07-27-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162338)
Well if you read my post correctly you would see the person didn't answer my question and instead went off topic about me being a junior which I explained wasn't an issue because I spoke to someone. So once I told them it wasn't an issue and I wasn't stressed about getting in they went off on that. Again not answering my question. I'm not saying I know everything I just know certain things people are asking me to find out which I already know. I just want to know if someone can get the same experience being in a sorority if they live in a dorm. But of course some people on here continue to go off topic NOT answering my orginal question and are volatile.

Only a couple people actually answered my question. If you have a problem with me asking certain questions you aren't obligated to read them, but seeing how some of you love to start drama on here while you are older adults, mostly, it doesn't surprise me that you do.

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162339)
The last school I went to did and this was said from about 5 people in that sorority that I talked to. They do it where everyone goes somewhere. It might not be allowed or seen as the sorority type thing to do, but they did it. So no, they were not rumors. But thank you for your insight. If you could answer my orginal question though that would be great. Thanks!

All of these awesome sorority girls you know in real life should be able to answer your lame questions. You don't need the Greek Chat know nothings to answer them.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2162343)
You shouldn't need to even ask this question, because it's common sense.

OF COURSE you can enjoy your sorority membership if the the chapter house and you do not live in it. Even sorority chapters with houses have members living outside the house. And what about the scores of chapters without houses? Do you think that all of those members have crappy experiences simply because they don't live in, or don't even have the option of living in, a sorority house? Not every likes living with a lot of people, so that experience and preference will vary as well.

Now stop obsessing about something you cannot control.

Thank you, that was on topic and helpful. I know I can't control it. I just wanted to see if the same experience can be had. I know freshman start off that way, but they have more years to bond with others and that was my concern. It wasn't common sense to me and a few others worried about the same thing because people say that when you live with people it forms a better bond, which is why people in clubs aren't usually that close because they only see each other a couple times out of the week. Also there are so many girls in certain sororities I was worried they couldn't possibly bond with everyone, especially if they aren't living with them because it makes it easier if they lived together I would think

Old_Row 07-27-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162344)
Well maybe that one place is that place. I wouldn't be able to say unless I knew if it was the same school or not. Again I don't understand why this is going off topic.

Anyways..If anybody has had the experiences I am speaking of in terms of living in a dorm vs being in a sorority house please let me know. Thank you.

Everyone points at and laughs at the ones who don't live in the house. They aren't considered real sisters.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2162346)
All of these awesome sorority girls you know in real life should be able to answer your lame questions. You don't need the Greek Chat know nothings to answer them.

Lol. Okay Old_Row.

AOII Angel 07-27-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162344)
Well maybe that one place is that place. I wouldn't be able to say unless I knew if it was the same school or not. Again I don't understand why this is going off topic.

Anyways..If anybody has had the experiences I am speaking of in terms of living in a dorm vs being in a sorority house please let me know. Thank you.

Yeah, you said your old school was like this, and unless you're at Tufts, you can be released from recruitment. By the bolded, I'm doubting you are.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2162350)
Yeah, you said your old school was like this, and unless you're at Tufts, you can be released from recruitment. By the bolded, I'm doubting you are.

Hahaha. Okay. Bye then. Thanks for stopping by my thread!

Titchou 07-27-2012 06:02 PM

There are too many variables for us to answer this not knowing your campus. Does the house 100 or 10? Is there full meal service or catering only for certain meals? Is the house on campus or off? Etc, etc etc....

AOII Angel 07-27-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitashort (Post 2162353)
Hahaha. Okay. Bye then.

So, you admit you aren't at Tufts, which is the only school with guarranteed placement. You may have misunderstood these sorority members you talked to about recruitment. Go talk to the Greek Life Adviser and ask if anyone goes bidless. I guarantee you that every year a handful do. Unfortunately. Some are released by the chapters, some release themselves if they don't get the chapter they want and some don't get a bid because they don't maximize their options and list all their chapters from prefs. Only Tufts lets you go back to parties after being completely cut or makes some chapter take a girl no one wants. Did you really ask you 5 friends who know all the ins and out of recruitment about that? Lots of times girls in chapters have no idea that a couple girls that went through were completely released, so those 5 people are not who you should base your confidence around. Go in better educated and play the game bc you are coming across as very ignorant about the whole process...and most unwilling to take advice.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2162354)
There are too many variables for us to answer this not knowing your campus. Does the house 100 or 10? Is there full meal service or catering only for certain meals? Is the house on campus or off? Etc, etc etc....

The ones at my current school are off campus and all include chefs.

knight_shadow 07-27-2012 06:18 PM

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Vitashort 07-27-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2162357)
So, you admit you aren't at Tufts, which is the only school with guarranteed placement. You may have misunderstood these sorority members you talked to about recruitment. Go talk to the Greek Life Adviser and ask if anyone goes bidless. I guarantee you that every year a handful do. Unfortunately. Some are released by the chapters, some release themselves if they don't get the chapter they want and some don't get a bid because they don't maximize their options and list all their chapters from prefs. Only Tufts lets you go back to parties after being completely cut or makes some chapter take a girl no one wants. Did you really ask you 5 friends who know all the ins and out of recruitment about that? Lots of times girls in chapters have no idea that a couple girls that went through were completely released, so those 5 people are not who you should base your confidence around. Go in better educated and play the game bc you are coming across as very ignorant about the whole process...and most unwilling to take advice.

You are absolutely right I personally do not know every aspect of the recruitment process, I just go by what I have seen and what others in the sorority have told me. Maybe they were mistaken and missed something as you suggested, but I was going by what they told me. I only seem ignorant because I am not stressing and worried about getting in, and that is something nobody should worry about. If I don't get in, I'll move on, but I know my chances are pretty good. It isn't wrong to just want to prepare financially anyway and think about the living aspect. In all honesty would you want to be in a sorority if you didn't feel you bonded with your sisters? Bonding I would think is a very huge aspect of a sorority and that is the main thing I would like to get out of it. Being close with sisters. That was my reasoning for the "lame" question. Something most people coming into something new like this worry about, but usually never speak on.

Vitashort 07-27-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2162360)

Oh you go ahead shaq!


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