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SLAM<3 Always 07-22-2012 05:17 PM

How do you explain a sorority to someone from another country?
 
I'm currently studying abroad and frequently find myself answering the question "What are those symbols on your shirt" by students from other countries where sororities do not exist. It's difficult to explain when many of them have no point of reference, so my question is how do you explain a sorority to someone who has never heard of such a thing before?

FSUZeta 07-22-2012 05:19 PM

It is difficult. On the few occasions that I have tried to explain, I most often get a blank look for the explainee.

Xidelt 07-22-2012 05:23 PM

I'd explain it as a women's group with selective membership. I'd then say that the group takes part in social and service activities, with two different membership levels: college students and alumnae.

Tulip86 07-22-2012 05:34 PM

Depends on where you are. You'd be surprised to find that a lot of countries have organisations that are a lot like sororities but just aren't called the same. And Greek letters is something most of those organisations don't use anyway.

Sciencewoman 07-22-2012 07:32 PM

Last summer the asst. server on our cruise saw my lavalier and asked if I was Russian. :)

excelblue 07-23-2012 12:12 AM

I just say it's a very American cultish institution of awesomeness.

aephi alum 07-23-2012 12:46 AM

I think Xidelt put it best.

It was very difficult for me to explain to my mother (who is British and attended university/medical school in Scotland) what a sorority is, why I wanted to join one, and what it meant to me then and means to me now. I think she understands certain aspects. For example, when she was in her first year at university, she was paired with a senior woman who helped her get acclimated to campus life, and she chose to be a senior woman later on - just like I had a big sister and a little sister. I explained to her that my sorority was involved with community service projects (I think that made her a little more comfortable with the idea) and that, while there is a social aspect to being in a sorority, and we would be having functions with fraternities, it didn't mean I'd be jumping into bed with random guys. :rolleyes: She's bought me a few AEPhi-related items, including a cloisonné giraffe, but I can tell ... she doesn't get it.

My dad (who is American, and who attended a school where hazing in the greek system ran rampant) is highly anti-greek, and I am sure he colored my mom's perceptions. We had a brunch during parents' weekend, and my parents met all my sisters including my pledge sisters - and I think it put them at ease.

Anyway... I'd go with what Xidelt posted, with emphasis on the community service aspect.

And I'll stop blabbing now. :p

SLAM<3 Always 07-23-2012 01:33 PM

I'm in Europe, but many of the students in my program are from Asia if that helps. In Europe, many "secret societies" were outlawed so it's difficult to explain. I have no idea how Asian countries feel about the topic. Any ideas or points of reference I could use for either instance?

KDCat 07-23-2012 01:55 PM

It's not a gang. It's a club.:D

Seriously, though, lots of countries have Free Masons, so if the country has Masons, I'd explain that it's a fraternal organization for college women and college graduates, sort of like the Masons.

If they don't have Masons, I would explain that it's a club for college women and college graduates that does a lot of philanthropy work and sometimes offers housing to its members.

AnchorAlumna 07-23-2012 02:27 PM

I believe in another thread someone described student clubs that are common at some European colleges and universities, but most of them are co-ed. Student clubs of some kind are very common everywhere - faith based, study based, interest base - but the idea of getting together with your friends is universal.

In the US, I laugh when some of the faith-based colleges declare they don't have fraternities or sororities, but lo and behold they have "literary societies" or some other single-six groups identical to Greeks in everything but name.

Tulip86 07-23-2012 05:49 PM

Almost every European country has student societies, (I'm in Europe as well) but the same thing that happens in the US applies here as well; those that aren't part of it don't understand it at all, just like those that aren't Greek don't understand Greek life. Whether it's called a sorority, club or society, they definitely exist all across Europe, they're just called differently and are rarely understood by outsiders, hence the blank looks when trying to talk about it with most students.

I do wonder about this though, with shows like Greek around, I know most students I know would recognize the letters on your shirt as sorority letters.

exlurker 07-26-2012 08:48 PM

How about reciting some version of the old reliable "From the outside you can never understand it. From the inside you can never explain it.'

Even if you speak that in -- or get it translated into -- the other person's first language, if necessary, it's not going to come across any better than it does in English. But whatever.

thewasher418 07-29-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by exlurker (Post 2161999)
How about reciting some version of the old reliable "From the outside you can never understand it. From the inside you can never explain it.'

Even if you speak that in -- or get it translated into -- the other person's first language, if necessary, it's not going to come across any better than it does in English. But whatever.

That's probably a better response to questions like "What is the benefit of joining a sorority?" rather than what I believe the OP is referring to, which is "What is a sorority?" It's like someone not from my state asking me what gumbo is and me giving them some platitude, when they want a definition.

Elephant Walk 08-04-2012 05:26 PM

If you're in europe, they've seen fraternities on tv.

FSUZeta 08-04-2012 05:30 PM

Hello EW.

AGDee 08-05-2012 10:16 AM

Some of my sisters who are very involved in Girl Scouts often talk about the similarities between Girl Scouts and sororities- values based, community service oriented, focused on personal development of women and leadership skills- and there are Girl Scouts/Girl Guides in 145 countries so you could use that as an analogy, and then explain some of the differences- membership begins in college, is life long, selective and sometimes live together in residence at their college with a stronger social component.

carnation 08-05-2012 11:13 AM

I once had an Australian roommate to whom I was trying to explain sorority life. She said it was a lot like the dorms at her boarding school. The dorms had a selection process and your chances were better if you were a legacy. Each dorm had certain traditions, colors, etc. and there were some that were more desirable than others.

Looking back, it sounded very Harry Potterish!

adpiucf 08-15-2012 12:11 AM

I tell people it is a women's-only social and community service organization and you are invited to membership (or not) through an interview process.

toomuch4u 09-22-2012 12:07 PM

ummm, I was totally searching for something else when I ran across this thread and I had to share this short but funny story.

My old roommate was in a sorority and while studying abroad she met this guy who didn't understand the concept of "sorority." She said he was Irish or something, i don't remember, but when she started explaining it to him he goes "OOOH! Like a Laaady Brigaaaade?!" She told me the story impersonating his Irish accent and to this day I bust out laughing when I think about it.

She just paused and said, "Yyyyea. Like a lady brigade."

I die.

*disclaimer*
I'm a new member of greekchat but I've lurked for years. just wanted to say whas up!

lyrica9 09-24-2012 11:23 PM

When I studied abroad I explained it as a secret society. I found out that my Spanish prior to arriving in Spain was so bad that my host mom thought I lived in an orphanage from the explanation on my introduction letter. Her daughter had spent two years at a high school in the US and told her a lot of poor stereotypes of greeks. I think she figured it out eventually. :-)


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