Can you be Christian and Greek?
 

Hey all, I ran across this story "Can you be Christian and Greek?" Greeks tend to receive a bit of criticism from the general population regarding Christianity. I am a strong Christian, but it really baffles me when this topic comes up. Why do folks consider us to be Satanic? I just hope we can really have a serious on this so this topic will stopped being brought up in convos.

http://kollegekidd.com/news/can-you-...tian-and-greek

Before anybody can answer your questions, we first must understand what Christianity is and where it's teachings came from. Most of us call ourselves Christians because our parents call themselves Christians. And their parents call themselves Christians, because their parents call themselves Christians. Is this the truth? Of course it is. But why were they calling themselves Christians? They were calling themselves Christians because a man named Jesus visited the slave-plantation one day and baptized them in the waters of the Mississippi River. Jesus did not come to them in a vision or a dream, and say to them…"from this day forward, I declare you all to be Christians!" So, now if Jesus didn't come to the slave-plantation to give us this so-called Christianity, then who did come? Who was it that gave our forefathers and mothers these teachings of Christianity? Who was it that taught us this? You know who taught us this. The white slave master gave us these teachings of so-called Christianity, and we accepted these teachings with no questions asked, just like we accepted everything else that he gave us. Christianity, as we know it, is only the white slave masters teachings of what and who God and the devil is. We really were never taught the true teachings of Jesus. All that we have is the teachings of the white slave master, with Jesus' name on it.

There have been a lot of threads about this topic over the years including 2011-2012 threads. There is truly nothing new and profound to say on this topic. Everything is redundant.

Nothing can never be redundant. We, being greeks, will always argue in favor of ourselves. Should we start being objective and asking ourselves if our rituals are a bit questionable

Oy.

HA, Love it!

Has anything new and profound been said about this topic yet? What are you all waiting for? :p

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Well, i am going to try to explain myself hopefully w/out revealing any secrets of the org. But we all know we must do certain things to be a part of the org. Do these rituals make us anymore of a man than the next. Would anyone here consider forgoing the rituals and perhaps just go paper?? What is the meaning of being "made" anymore? Should we do away w/ our ritual process and allow brothers in??

http://kollegekidd.com/news/black-gr...aper-or-pledge

http://kollegekidd.com/news/black-gr...nition-of-made

Where do we find the true teachings of Jesus?

First of all, I don't want you to think that I am saying that there is no truth in the Bible or in the teachings of Jesus. That is not what I am saying, because the true teachings of Jesus, is not what the slave master gave to our people. There is truth in the Bible if you can break through all of the symbolism. The teachings of Jesus are very valuable, but that is not what the preacher has been teaching. That is not what the slave master has given the preacher to preach. Open your black mind for a second and be objective. Open your black mind and try to think emotionally for a while. I want you to reason with me. I want us to just reason together. Let us try to be mature, honest and objective about this subject. Please don't let the truth offend you or make you upset. The only way to oppose the truth is to defend and uphold a lie. So I want you to be on the side of the truth. Now where do you want to be? So let us reason with this thing. Let us use our logic and reasoning to find the real truth, or the real reasons. Now before we find the real truth or the real reasons we first must ask the real questions. Why is it that most black people call themselves Christians? What is the reason? Why do most black churches display the image of a white Jesus? What is the reason? Why are all the angels white? What is the reason? Why are there no black people at the last supper? What is the reason? Why is it that when most black people close their eyes to pray, they see a white God in their mind? What is the reason? Why did King James feel that he was holy enough to revise and issue his own version of the revealed word of God? What is the reason? Why did black slaves whole heartedly accept the teachings of Christianity from the same white slave master, who gave them pure hell 24 hours a day? What is the reason? Why are we in a terrible mess that we are in today? What is the reason? You need to know the reasons before you can determine the real truth. The Bible is the history/prophecy of black folks. Read your Bible from a black theological perspective, not from a white theological perspective. After you have finished your Bible, get a Holy Quran. In times like these, we need to have all the revealed word of God, not just part of the truth. We need all of God, not just part of God.

What is your religion brother? You mentioned Quran, so I was just wondering

Praise be to FSM!

May you be touched by his noodly appendage!

Whether you go paper or whether you were made, you still have to go through rituals. Why would you do away with the rituals? That doesn't make any sense. The rituals go back to the founders with most GLOs, so why would you let folks in without knowing the rituals of the organization?

This is some deep shit. I never really looked at it like that, but I feel you.

I don't like getting into what religion I practice.

Leave it up to Iota Man to believe that this is new and profound stuff.

I don't give a shit if it is or isn't. I'm feeling dude either way.

Hello, contradiction.

Where has your mind been such that you had never heard or thought of what Andre Turner said? I thought you were of reasonable consciousness and intelligence.

LOL I haven't been to church since I was a kid, and maybe a couple of times as an adult. Never paid attention to it, because church is boring to me, so I never really gave a shit enough to notice it.

It's funny that this is even a topic--I'd guess that most Greeks are Christian. Levels of observance obviously vary but it probably reflects the predominance of Christians in the general population.

It's cold out there for a non-Christian Greek such as myself, I guess...? :confused:

I was trippin on the thread title, which is why I clicked on it.

You would most likely not hear what Andre Turner said in a church. Your post makes me think you do not understand what Andre Turner is saying.

I know what dude is saying. No, you wouldn't "hear" those things in church, but the things that are symbolic that are in the church is what I'm feeling.

Exactamundo. Although, a lot of people like to attribute this to real or imagined Christian foundations of some GLOs. My interest in Delta was not sparked by any hints of Christianity.


Only if you are in a GLO that has Christianity (not just general stuff that almost many religions abide by) in rituals, practices, and most of its chapters explicitly apply Christianity to almost everything.

Oh really? :rolleyes:

I said a couple of times as an adult. That means, I don't go a lot. So, yeah, "really".

Saying things like "the church I attend now" and you'll ask your "current pastor" definitely suggests more than "a couple of times as an adult." But whatever.

I take the use of "my pastor" to mean that the person belongs to a church even if the person does not attend regularly.

I am still intrigued that a Black person with a college education has never heard the role of religion in the African Diaspora being challenged just as Greek Letter Organizations for people of the African Diaspora has been challenged for generations.

You're the mofo who did a search, I haven't been since. Because I said that shit then, doesn't mean I'm going every day. LOL dumbass.

Pretty much.

I'd agree if he didn't also say "the church I attend now." But you can't fault someone for thinking that saying "the church I attend" suggests actual attendance.

Dude, you say shit in just about every post. I don't care whether you go or when you go or where you go. But LOL at you for getting bent out of shape every time someone calls you on a contradiction or on failure to communicate clearly.

I too have a church that I attend--a few times a year. :)

That is the church and the pastor that I most identify with although I am not a member of this church and do not attend regularly. It is still the church that I attend. However, I would not use "my church" or "my pastor" because I am not a church member. Iota Man may be a lazy church member.

/Need to remember that I admitted that in case I try to lie about church attendance in a future post

I can't tell, when it's that important to you to do a search. If you don't care then shut up LOL.

LOL I'm not getting bent out of shape. That's not me failing to communicate, that's your own dumbass assumptions.

I'm making a note of this thread, and I will call you out on it. :p


The only reason it even occurred to me to care or do a search is that the posts to which I linked were a conversation between you and me, and I remembered that conversation.


You make the mocking so easy, it's hard to resist. I'll try though.

LOL @ this dumb mofo. You just told me that you don't give a shit. So you do give a shit? Which is it? LOL Have a seat home's.