Transferring from a small college to a state school. Am I still considered a brother?
 

I am transferring from a small school to a state school. I am a FIJI and my new school just so happens to have a chapter of FIJI.

Will I be able to participate in Greek Life since I already went through the pledge process and since I am officially a brother of FIJI?

FIJI (local and/or (inter)national rep) and the Greek Life office at the college can answer that question.

I see...

Honestly, I will be pissed if it's up to the chapter to decide whether I should be let in or not. That's not what Greek Life is about. Once a brother, always a brother and if they don't let me in, then they don't know what brotherhood is.

I'm an open minded person and if they are different than my old fraternity (which they probably are), so what? I love to meet new and different people.

You need to contact the president of the chapter and let him know that you are transferring to the university. Or, contact your chapter president and ask him to do the initial contact.

If you do want to be an active brother, ask the state school's president how you can begin helping and volunteering for the chapter now. See if they are having a summer get retreat that you can attend.

Helping? Volunteering? I did that stuff when I was a brother at my old school, why should I take time out of my summer to help out now just to "prove" myself as a brother??

I'm all for volunteer work and such during the school year and other activities associated with the fraternity, but I don't understand what I have to prove. I went through the same process as every other FIJI and became a brother. What do I have to prove?

Honestly, I'll be insulted if they reject me, because that's not what FIJI is about.

I'm sure the new chapter will be thrilled to have you. :rolleyes:

LOL. We do not know the answer and are giving suggestions. Contact the people who can answer this question.

Usually the chapter at the new school decided to let you into their chapter. Just in case they don't, you are still a brother for life.

Not sure how FIJI works, you should ask your nationals. But I have seen one of our brothers transfer schools and the host chapter not let him in. They've had problems with transfer brothers in the past trying to change the chapter culture. Currently our chapter knows of someone who is coming in as a transfer and is a brother, but we may or may not let him in because of stuff he posts on facebook.

Just let them know you are coming, they'll verify you, and watch how you act until then.

Yeah regardless of FIJI's and the school's policies regarding transfers, who wants to accept a member from another chapter who scoffs at helping out and volunteering?

He's spending a whole lot of time complaining and telling us what Greek Life and FIJI are not about - I wonder if he even knows what they are about?

Why is he telling us what they are/aren't about PERIOD? All this time could be spent reaching out to his brothers at the new school.

Complaining to us isn't going to accomplish a thing.

Well, I think I've gotten the daily recommended allowance of irony for today.


Meanwhile, it took me about two minutes to find FIJI's affiliation (transfer) protocol on the FIJI website. Prepare to be pissed, because apparently your fraternity -- like almost ever other fraternity and sorority I've even known anything about -- does not believe that Greek Life is about denying a chapter the right to choose its own members and forcing it to take members it doesn't believe will fit in. Brotherhood does not entail a right to be a member of any chapter.

Such horse****. Who are they to say I'll fit in? Is this high school again? I got bids to 4 different fraternities on my campus, each one with a different stereotype. They included: the rich kids, the bros, animal house/the stoners/football players (FIJI), and the nerds/intellectuals.

If each one of those fraternities thought I could fit in with their fraternity, then I don't see why I can't fit in with the FIJI at my new school.

I never said I don't want to volunteer. I said I don't need to waste my summer proving myself to the chapter at my new school, that's what the school year is for. I'm down to volunteer, I had 150 volunteer hours from last year and helped set up a philanthropy event that raised 1600 dollars.

QFP.

You are a waste of ritual, letters, and bids.

Wow that's just ignorant. We need less people like you in Greek Life. My brothers would definitely not agree with your statement.

You better hope the brothers of your new chapter don't say the same about you.

The active members of the chapter, just like the active members of the chapter you currently belong to got to decide whether you'd fit in with them or not. Ditto any other chapters that offered you bids.

Maybe you will fit in with them, or maybe you won't. But it's their call. And if they say "no," you'll still be a FIJI and still be their brother -- you just won't be a member of their chapter.

It's funny, though, how you keep talking about what brotherhood is about, but when it's suggested you ask how you could start helping and volunteering with the chapter now, you see that as being about wasting your summer and "proving" yourself instead of being about acting like the brother you claim to be. And by funny, I mean sad.

Why don't you direct your opinions to your Grand Council or whatever FIJI calls it and request they change their policy and procedures? We can't do anything here but direct you to your own resources (national web site/officers) which you seem not to be able to do on your own.

If you were at your first chapter wouldn't you be required to do those things anyways? So what is the difference if you do it for your old chapter or new chapter?

I have a 60hr/week job in the summer. Plus I doubt there are brothers living in the fraternity house. What good is it to contact them about volunteering now?

Everyone here is putting words in my mouth. I never said I'm against volunteering. But I would like to be accepted as a brother before I participate in activities within the fraternity such as philanthropy, formals, and such.

That is it... I call BS on this poser. I just can't believe that such a horse's ass is really a fraternity member. I don't believe a REAL brother would have such nasty things to say about his potential new chapter before he has even met them.

Now go away.

But the brothers at your new school would.

For the general topic, here is an example of one Delta collegiate chapter's policy on transfers:


1. Transferring membership from another chapter is immediate upon payment of local dues and submission of an official verification of payment of Grand Chapter dues.


2. Transfers must show verification and maintain a minimum 2.5 GPA.


This is why people need to contact NHQ/IHQ and schools/chapters rather than asking Greekchat for everything. :)

I'm not saying nasty things about them personally. I would meet them and chill with them before making a judgement. This would allow for them to make a judgement as well.

Anyways, I found out one of my good buddy's friend is in the fraternity as well as another one of my good friends. Looks like if my friends are really good friends with some of the brothers, then it shouldn't be a bad fit for me.

I call bullshit on this.

Did you actually initiate? Your first post says "completed the pledge process", but I don't know if that means you have actually been through initiation.

Dear das343,

You are not a very pleasant person.

XOXO,
agzg

Not bullshit at all actually. Most of my friends are in fraternities at my state school.

And yes, I did initiate. That's why I said I completed the pledge process.

I swear, everyone is now just trying to pick at every little thing they can just for the sake of attacking me. I hope the FIJI over at my state school isn't as bad as the jerkoffs on this message board.

I call bullshit.

Good for you.

I hope your attitude in real life isn't anything like your attitude in this thread, because the attitude you've shown here is the reason you're getting the kind of responses you're getting.

There's nothing wrong with my attitude. I disagree with FIJIs policy that it's up to the chapter to decide to let a brother in.

Best of luck with all that. Thanks for stopping by.

FTW - By far the best part of this thread! The rest is :rolleyes:

Really?

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Originally Posted by das343 (Post 2152161) Honestly, I will be pissed if it's up to the chapter to decide whether I should be let in or not. That's not what Greek Life is about. Once a brother, always a brother and if they don't let me in, then they don't know what brotherhood is.

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Originally Posted by das343 (Post 2152165) Helping? Volunteering? I did that stuff when I was a brother at my old school, why should I take time out of my summer to help out now just to "prove" myself as a brother?? I'm all for volunteer work and such during the school year and other activities associated with the fraternity, but I don't understand what I have to prove. I went through the same process as every other FIJI and became a brother. What do I have to prove? Honestly, I'll be insulted if they reject me, because that's not what FIJI is about.

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Originally Posted by das343 (Post 2152184) Such horse****. Who are they to say I'll fit in? Is this high school again? I got bids to 4 different fraternities on my campus, each one with a different stereotype. They included: the rich kids, the bros, animal house/the stoners/football players (FIJI), and the nerds/intellectuals. . . . . I never said I don't want to volunteer. I said I don't need to waste my summer proving myself to the chapter at my new school, that's what the school year is for.

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Originally Posted by das343 (Post 2152188) We need less people like you in Greek Life.

You've come across like an entitled brat in this thread. An experienced fraternity alumnus suggested you contact the new chapter and see if they -- as many chapters do -- have anything going on in the summer you could help with, or at least attend. Why? Because it can be a great opportunity to get to know them (and for them to get to know you) before school starts. If your work schedule makes that impossible, fine -- say that your work schedule makes that impossible. Don't say you don't need to waste your summer because you shouldn't have to prove anything to the guys whose chapter you'd like to join.

If you think it's a bad policy, that's fine too. I'm sure FIJI has avenues for you to try get the policy changed. But in the meantime, it's the policy you have to live with and operate in, and you should anticipate the possibility the members of the chapter you want to transfer into -- who if they're at a large school, may get more transfer requests than they'd like -- just might think it's a good policy.

Methinks this person has already been turned down, and now wants to smear FIJI.

On the off chance that you are for real, I'm sure there are other FIJI policies you disagree with. but guess what....you have to live with them unless you want to turn in your badge...which might not be a bad idea.

He certainly came across that way, didn't he? It reminded me of the character Bulldog on the Frasier show. Whenever he couldn't find something, he would immediately start ranting and raving screaming "This stinks, this is total BS" ; anyway, this is what I think of when I read the OP's posts.

MysticCat, in case I need to use the phrase that I put in bold face -- and I have a feeling it will come in handy some time -- may I reuse? It's short, to the point, and demonstrates alliteration.

Holy shit this is the best insult I've ever heard.