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iotamason 05-29-2012 05:00 PM

Wanetta Gibson, who falsely accused HS star Brian Banks of rape and ruined his life.
 
Things like this make me shake my head and have fear for my son when he finally reaches highschool... the story of Brian Banks (Former HS Football Star Brian Banks Spent 6 Years in Prison for Rape Didn’t Commit).
What bothered me the most and there are a lot of things that bother me about this story is she never apologized. She never said, I am sorry for lying and destroying your life.
All she said was that she wanted to “let bygones to be bygones”.
She didn’t even have the guts after she admitted she lied to go to prosecutors because she didn’t want to give back the $1.5 million she stole from the school district for lying.
Just listen to Banks tell the story.
Thank god his defense team secretly taped her admitting that she lied about the rape or he still would have this hanging over him.
It just makes your angry that someone can do this type of thing and get away it. As of right now Gibson is still walking free and living off the $1.5 million she and her mother won in a lawsuit.
Banks has cleared his name, but he can’t get the 10 years back he lost.
Just try to remember when you were 17 and then when you were 27. How much did you change? How much of your life would be missing if someone took those years away from your.
Wanetta Gibson is evil woman with a black heart.
Besides destroying Banks life, she has hurt the credibility of every future rape accuser going forward. Rape is a serious charge and men who commit it should be thrown under the jail, but with women like Gibson out there it will always be doubt about these claims.
Just a terrible story and I hope someone goes after Gibson for all the money and possessions she has left and any criminal charges they can levy against her.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...-is-still-free

There's a video of the story in the link. I tried searching for her name but a thread didn't come up. Maybe I didn't search hard enough. I apologize if there is already a thread on this.

PiKA2001 05-29-2012 05:08 PM

first of all the link is broken, secondly, somewhat similar topics have been discussed on here before (Duke lacrosse), and thirdly, I'm just going to sit back and wait for Max to arrive.

DrPhil 05-29-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148863)
Besides destroying Banks life, she has hurt the credibility of every future rape accuser going forward.

No, she did not.

She is not the first or the last person to lie about something and that includes lying about being raped.

iotamason 05-29-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2148866)
first of all the link is broken, secondly, somewhat similar topics have been discussed on here before (Duke lacrosse), and thirdly, I'm just going to sit back and wait for Max to arrive.

How is the Duke Lacrosse case and this one similar? In the Brian Bank's situation the young lady contacted Brian and admitted that she lied. She even confessed that rape did not occur. Eventually it was found out as a way for her and the mother to make 1.5 million. If I was in that situation I do not know if I would have the ability to be as forgiving as he was. The news story was brought up as a discussion point, not to cause a divide. I was inquiring if other people were placed in the same situation and the results happenned the way it did how would you react. To think she had the audacity to send a friend request on facebook and then say "let bygones be bygones" is kinda ludacris. She has robbed almost 6 years of a man's freedom for a money making scheme.

Sciencewoman 05-29-2012 07:51 PM

I saw him with his attorney on CNN a couple days ago. He also had a college football scholarship that was lost...I think to USC. Yet, he was forgiving. He said he still hoped to try out for the NFL.

That woman must have no conscience. I was really mad at her, and sad for him, when I saw this story.

DrPhil 05-29-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148908)
How is the Duke Lacrosse case and this one similar?

Read those threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2148910)
I saw him with his attorney on CNN a couple days ago. He also had a college football scholarship that was lost...I think to USC. Yet, he was forgiving. He said he still hoped to try out for the NFL.

I seriously doubt that he will have a career in the NFL. Being a free agent who sits on the bench is what I see in his future unless he gets publicity and a second chance from these teams.

iotamason 05-29-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148911)
Read those threads.

I skimmed the Duke Lacrosse thread and saw all the chaos and racial posturing that was going on. In the Duke Lacrosse thread there was confusion concerning who to believe based on the young lady's profession and the race of the individuals being accused. The Martin case thread would be more similar to the Duke Lacrosse thread then the Brian thread situation. Both the martin case and the Duke Lacrosse situation were charged because many individuals were taking sides based on information as well as race. Also there is corelation on how the police in both areas approached both situations with delayed response. In the Brian case both the "victim" and the accused rapist are of the same race. He was tried, wrongly convicted, served time then later the "victim" admits to lying to Brian and his private investigator. Now the ruling is in the process of being overturned. Again how is the Duke Lacrosse case and Brian similar beside both being aquainted to rape?

Also to the GCers' do you feel that the 200k he is seeking from California for wrongly being imprisoned enough and what about the young lady, should there be any type of punishment she should recieve for what she did? Or has life already done that for her?

DrPhil 05-29-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148914)
Again how is the Duke Lacrosse case and Brian similar beside both being aquainted to rape?

What was the outcome of the Duke Lacrosse allegations?

Senusret I 05-29-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148914)

Also to the GCers' do you feel that the 200k he is seeking from California for wrongly being imprisoned enough....?

I don't know the details, but that may be all he's allowed to pursue. I forgot what it's called when a state can't be sued, or can't be sued beyond a set amount.

iotamason 05-29-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2148918)
I don't know the details, but that may be all he's allowed to pursue. I forgot what it's called when a state can't be sued, or can't be sued beyond a set amount.

I read that due to California law, a person wrongfully convicted can sue for $100 a day he or she was forced to serve in prison..

iotamason 05-29-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148917)
What was the outcome of the Duke Lacrosse allegations?

They were proven to be false. However those that were accused did not serve a prison sentence. Also the accuser was african american and the defendants were caucasion.. In the Brian's case they are both african american? Again this situation is still very different then the Duke lacrosse one. They did not serve any time. Brian did.

DrPhil 05-29-2012 08:42 PM

Nobody said they were exactly the same. They are similar for a number of reasons including:

1. Athletics
2. Allegations that were determined to be false
3. Race and ethnicity (there is still a race component with both Wanetta and Brian being Black--there is a notion that people are more willing to consider Black-Black victimization and allegations than Black-white)
4. Whether to prosecute the accuser (Wanetta may not be prosecuted)
5. How this will shape people's opinions of rape accusations
6. How this can shape the future of the accused (the Duke Lacrosse players still had their lives impacted by this)

iotamason 05-29-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148925)
Nobody said they were exactly the same. They are similar for a number of reasons including:

1. Athletics
I can agree
2. Allegations that were determined to be false
Already stated
3. Race and ethnicity (there is still a race component with both Wanetta and Brian being Black--there is a notion that people are more willing to consider Black-Black victimization and allegations than Black-white)
It still will not cause friction in the forum being a racial charged issue like stated before.
4. Whether to prosecute the accuser (Wanetta may not be prosecuted)
5. How this will shape people's opinions of rape accusations
not according to what you posted... DrPhil saysNo, she did not. She is not the first or the last person to lie about something and that includes lying about being raped.
6. How this can shape the future of the accused (the Duke Lacrosse players still had their lives impacted by this)

Only on the individuals psyche, yet it did not include a felony or imprisonment.

MysticCat 05-29-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2148918)
I forgot what it's called when a state can't be sued, or can't be sued beyond a set amount.

Sovereign immunity.

iotamason 05-29-2012 09:06 PM

Brian Banks Falsely Accused Rapist Suing State of California..Wanetta Gibson is Still Free
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...is-still-free/

Banks will be suing for false imprisonment.

Justin Brooks of the California Innocence Project told the Times. “We do plan on filing a state claim for the $100 a day Brian is entitled to under State Law 4900 for every day he was wrongfully incarcerated.”

DrPhil 05-29-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason
not according to what you posted..

I know what I said. The Duke Lacrosse incident prompted people to say exactly what you said about the impact of this case. There were people who wanted to use the Duke Lacross incident as yet another excuse to give alleged rape victims a difficult time. And people who were bothered by the implications of that responded just as I did. It is deja vu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason
It still will not cause friction in the forum being a racial charged issue like stated before.

It could cause another GC Race War if the right things are said and GCers have time on their hands. I wish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148935)
Only on the individuals psyche, yet it did not include a felony or imprisonment.

All PiKA2001 did was remind us of the similar topics that have been discussed on GC before.

This incident had what some would consider a big impact on the players' lives and it was not limited to their individual psyche. Their lives were impacted. However, even if it was an impact on the psyche rather than an impact on opportunities and overall life outcomes, the negative impact on an individual's psyche cannot be measured and ranked in importance (besides the civil suits that were filed). I am sure the impact on Brian's life also cannot be measured.

iotamason 05-29-2012 09:36 PM

I never stated that we should give those who make a plea for help when they have been raped not to take the plea seriously.
And how discussing Brian's fortitude for being able to forgive, the amount of being paid 200k for time loss and being for being wrongfully imprisoned as enough resitution, and should the Gibson lady being punished cause a race war?

DrPhil 05-29-2012 09:40 PM

What could be more interesting than a blogspot?

http://hughmurray.blogspot.com/2012/...ian-banks.html

I wonder if he is going to get a chance at football. I hope that he does not invest everything in football.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/s...wants-shot-nfl

DrPhil 05-29-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148950)
I never stated that we should give those who make a plea for help when they have been raped not to take the plea seriously.

Perhaps you were not but that is what other people believe will happen because of these cases. That is why people like myself respond as we do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148950)
And how discussing Brian's fortitude for being able to forgive, the amount of being paid 200k for time loss and being for being wrongfully imprisoned as enough resitution, and should the Gibson lady being punished cause a race war?

Are you new to GC?

http://blackpoliticalbuzz.blogspot.c...innocence.html

iotamason 05-29-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148951)
What could be more interesting than a blogspot?

http://hughmurray.blogspot.com/2012/...ian-banks.html

I wonder if he is going to get a chance at football. I hope that he does not invest everything in football.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/s...wants-shot-nfl

referring to your first statement, how is that relevant?

To the second.. I agree.. I do hope Brian looks at all avenues concerning his future besides the NFL.

DrPhil 05-29-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148957)
referring to your first statement, how is that relevant?

How is what relevant?

iotamason 05-29-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148952)
Perhaps you were not but that is what other people believe will happen because of these cases. That is why people like myself respond as we do.



Are you new to GC?

http://blackpoliticalbuzz.blogspot.c...innocence.html

Didn't you tell me in another thread to read the posts instead of just responding earlier..

to be honest yes i am new to the GC culture last Greek board I was associated with were pledgepark and onolyumpus. I see some similarities with the board personalities yet many differences... I have been lurking sporadically over the past 5 years only like three times a year till recently. Actually started taking time to participate and having dialogue with other people only a few months ago. Again just trying to spark intelligent dialogue concerning a young man's future outlook... is that a crime?

iotamason 05-29-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148960)
How is what relevant?

nevermind.. I read the blogspot concerning that was given under your statement saying blogspots are interesting. I think I understand the point you were trying to make.. No way that there could be GCers' with such a skewed view to make this topic into a gender or race war instead of an intelligent discussion.

DrPhil 05-29-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148962)
Didn't you tell me in another thread to read the posts instead of just responding earlier..

LOL. As with that other thread, you have interesting comprehension:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ME
Perhaps you were not but that is what other people believe will happen because of these cases. That is why people like myself respond as we do.

This means that you did not say (and you did not mean to imply) that rape accusations should not be taken seriously at the onset (prior to the guilty verdict). Other people believe that rape accusations will not (or should not) be taken seriously because of the relatively rare instances that people lie. Therefore, whenever someone says "she has hurt the credibility of every future rape accuser going forward...but with women like Gibson out there it will always be doubt about these claims" (with and without the "rape is a serious charge and men who commit it should be thrown under the jail" disclaimer***), it receives a certain response from some people.

*** Some people apply the above disclaimer to guilty verdicts but the alleged rape victim is still stigmatized and treated like crap. That is also why certain comments receive a type of response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148967)
No way that there could be GCers' with such a skewed view to make this topic into a gender or race war instead of an intelligent discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148962)
to be honest yes i am new to the GC culture....

Indeed you are relatively new.

iotamason 05-29-2012 11:26 PM

Its pathetic you look down on your fellow members of the forum and believe they cannot have a civil dialogue about the news.

Senusret I 05-29-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2148937)
Sovereign immunity.

Thank you!

Kevin 05-29-2012 11:40 PM

Wrongful convictions happen all the time. Witnesses lie like hell.

Also, folks who are guilty as hell go free.

Blacks are convicted more often than whites and tend to do more time, poor folks fare worse than rich folks.

/thread.

KSig RC 05-30-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2148988)
Wrongful convictions happen all the time. Witnesses lie like hell.

Also, folks who are guilty as hell go free.

Blacks are convicted more often than whites and tend to do more time, poor folks fare worse than rich folks.

/thread.

I'm going to "re-open" the thread to add the role of institutional misogyny in the courts ... particularly victim blame, "slut shaming," and numerous studies describing the stark difference in what is considered "due process" in male-on-female sex abuse cases.

It's weird that nobody ever says "The worst part about Bernie Madoff is that this will effect the amount of trust people have for the old white men who handle their investments." Wait, no it isn't.

PiKA2001 05-30-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2148997)

It's weird that nobody ever says "The worst part about Bernie Madoff is that this will effect the amount of trust people have for the old white men who handle their investments." Wait, no it isn't.

Haha, I love it.

DrPhil 05-30-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2148997)
It's weird that nobody ever says "The worst part about Bernie Madoff is that this will effect the amount of trust people have for the old white men who handle their investments." Wait, no it isn't.

LOL. KSig RC always gets it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin
Blacks are convicted more often than whites and tend to do more time, poor folks fare worse than rich folks.

And this will never end but there are organizations working tirelessly to reduce this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2148986)
Its pathetic you look down on your fellow members of the forum and believe they cannot have a civil dialogue about the news.

Meanwhile, GC Race Wars and GC Gender Wars are fun and are missed.

Kevin 05-30-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2149039)
And this will never end but there are organizations working tirelessly to reduce this.

Dunno 'bout "never," but probably not during our lifetimes.

MysticCat 05-30-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2148947)
It is deja vu.

All over again?

MysticCat 05-30-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fina (Post 2149103)
Another brother being held down by da man.

You're late to the party, max. Pity, since we know you won't be around long.

DrPhil 05-30-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2149089)
All over again?

And again. :) I think one of those Duke Lacrosse threads is the first time you and I had a debate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fina (Post 2149103)
Another brother being held down by da man.

That's all? Go hard or go home.

MysticCat 05-30-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2149140)
And again. :) I think one of those Duke Lacrosse threads is the first time you and I had a debate.

Good times. I may have to go back and read it when I have a little time.

Ghostwriter 05-31-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2148988)
Also, folks who are guilty as hell go free.

Blacks are convicted more often than whites and tend to do more time, poor folks fare worse than rich folks.

/thread.

John Edwards comes to mind. Don't believe he will be tried again.

Kevin 05-31-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2149393)
John Edwards comes to mind. Don't believe he will be tried again.

Doubtful he should have been tried in the first place, and really, the Justice Dept. was reaching on those criminal charges. I think the right thing happened in this case.

Edwards may be a slimeball, but I don't think he's a criminal.

DrPhil 06-01-2012 12:39 PM

Brian Banks and his attorney were on NPR about 30 minutes ago.

Very interesting discussion.

It began with a discussion of false rape accusations and why some people do not want to discuss the approximately 10% of accusations that are false.

DrPhil 06-01-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fina (Post 2149641)
I will discuss it. Can you handle the truth?

How about we arrest the false accusers? Do you think Wanetta Gibson should go to jail?

Yes. Is that your profundity?

PiKA2001 06-01-2012 01:21 PM

Given the circumstances that her false accusations had some serious consequences for Banks I would like to see her face sthe same consequences. Throw her ass in jail for however long that kid had to serve.


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