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rolltide10 05-14-2012 04:34 PM

University of Alabama Rush/Sororities
 
I'm attending UA next year and rushing. I'm definitely going in with an open mind but theres something I've been hearing a lot about and I'm curious to what it means. I've been told that the only way to go is "old row" sororities. Can someone tell me which ones are old row and why people consider them better?

Thanks :)

AnotherKD 05-14-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2145917)
I'm attending UA next year and rushing. I'm definitely going in with an open mind but theres something I've been hearing a lot about and I'm curious to what it means. I've been told that the only way to go is "old row" sororities. Can someone tell me which ones are old row and why people consider them better?

Thanks :)

We don't talk about reputations or perceptions on campus here.

Old_Row 05-14-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2145917)
I'm attending UA next year and rushing. I'm definitely going in with an open mind but theres something I've been hearing a lot about and I'm curious to what it means. I've been told that the only way to go is "old row" sororities. Can someone tell me which ones are old row and why people consider them better?

Thanks :)

LOL If you have to ask . . . . . . . . . .

trisigma212 05-14-2012 07:23 PM

2 seconds with google or greekchat search will help you out. I'm not into spoon feeding people though.

28StGreek 05-14-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2145917)
I'm attending UA next year and rushing. I'm definitely going in with an open mind but theres something I've been hearing a lot about and I'm curious to what it means. I've been told that the only way to go is "old row" sororities. Can someone tell me which ones are old row and why people consider them better?

Thanks :)

Everyone knows that Pi Delta Pi is the best sorority.

KDCat 05-15-2012 11:15 AM

The Machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/11/17/greek-dues-support-machine/

Old Row
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...t=32105&page=5

rolltide10 05-15-2012 03:14 PM

I've actually googled it and can't find anything. Didn't realize it was such a hassle to type out a few sororities.

rolltide10 05-15-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2145946)
LOL If you have to ask . . . . . . . . . .

yes I do need to ask considering I'm from out of state and UK old row is different than UA old row.....

Tulip86 05-15-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2146200)
I've actually googled it and can't find anything. Didn't realize it was such a hassle to type out a few sororities.

As said before, reputations are not discussed on GreekChat

TSteven 05-15-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2146201)
yes I do need to ask considering I'm from out of state and UK old row is different than UA old row.....

gratuitous Go Cats!

KSUViolet06 05-15-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2146200)
I've actually googled it and can't find anything. Didn't realize it was such a hassle to type out a few sororities.

I don't think you're fully understanding why we're not telling you.

It's not because we're too lazy to type it out.

Why don't we discuss it? Because it perpetuates PNMs going into recruitment without open minds looking at chapters that (if we're being honest) even if they KNEW who they were, it wouldn't matter because they probs aren't getting invited back there.

Said "Old Row" groups are such that they have enough legacies in recruitment to fill an entire class. In addition, these chapter members all have friends from camp, HS, etc. that they would like to see invited back. Invites are limited.

Disclaimer: not saying this is what you think, using a hypothetical you here, so don't get offended. Just trying to help you understand where we're coming from.

So let's say we tell you who is considered Old Row and you go into recruitment thinking "I only want these." That hurts you in the long run. Why? Because the women who are going to get invites from these Old Row groups likely aren't the ones who have to come here and ask which they are. They have relationships with members already.

Said Old Row groups tend to have members who know PNMs from other activities whom they know already that they would like to have, leaving few invites for the women who are like "OMG I WANNA BE OLD ROW BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY THE BEST AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE, DESERVE BUT DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THOSE GROUPS!"

So, we tell you who's Old Row, you know who they are, and you've decided that it's all you want. All while they already have a good third of who they want already figured out before you set foot in school (not because they are horrible people, but because they have friends from camp, legacies, high school and hometown friends that they know and love, and there are limited invites.)

Meanwhile, you're missing out on the other awesome groups at UA while you're gunning for the "best" and you don't even realize what you're missing out on because you have Old Row blinders on.

So all of that to say, that's why we don't talk about it. Keep an open mind to everyone and you'll be more likely to find the best chapter for YOU, which isn't always what everyone else considers "best." Recruitment is not a competitive sport.

Good luck and I personally hope you have a great recruitment!



Old_Row 05-15-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2146217)
I don't think you're fully understanding why we're not telling you.

It's not because we're too lazy to type it out.

Why don't we discuss it? Because it perpetuates PNMs going into recruitment without open minds looking at chapters that (if we're being honest) if they KNEW who they were, it wouldn't matter because they probs aren't getting invited back there.

Said "Old Row" groups are such that they have enough legacies in recruitment to fill an entire class. In addition, these chapter members all have friends from camp, HS, etc. that they would like to see invited back. Invites are limited.

Disclaimer: not saying this is what you think, using a hypothetical you here, so don't get offended. Just trying to help you understand where we're coming from.

So let's say we tell you who is considered Old Row and you go into recruitment thinking "I only want these." That hurts you in the long run. Why? Because the women who are going to get invites from these Old Row groups likely aren't the ones who have to come here and ask which they are. They have relationships with members already.

Said Old Row groups tend to have members who know PNMs from other activities whom they know already that they would like to have, leaving few invites for the women who are like "OMG I WANNA BE OLD ROW BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY THE BEST AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE, DESERVE BUT DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THOSE GROUPS!"

So, we tell you who's Old Row, you know who they are, and you've decided that it's all you want. All while they already have a good third of who they want already figured out before you set foot in school (not because they are horrible people, but because they have friends from camp, legacies, high school and hometown friends that they know and love, and there are limited invites.)

Meanwhile, you're missing out on the other awesome groups at UA while you're gunning for the "best" and you don't even realize what you're missing out on because you have Old Row blinders on.

So all of that to say, that's why we don't talk about it. Keep an open mind to everyone and you'll be more likely to find the best chapter for YOU, which isn't always what everyone else considers "best." Recruitment is not a competitive sport.

Good luck and I personally hope you have a great recruitment!



You are pretty smart for a Yankee. :D

KSUViolet06 05-15-2012 07:18 PM

Haha. I try. My extended family is from Jasper. I get a little bit of Southern cred from that, right?

DubaiSis 05-15-2012 08:24 PM

And DON'T mistake Old Row for being the best. I'm sure they are full of lovely gals, but all of the chapters there are bursting at the seams so to assume there are 4 or 5 that are the only good ones is REALLY not being realistic. As we say here frequently, the only best is the best one for you.

I frankly think you are in a better position to make the right decision for yourself exactly because you don't know all the 100 year old baggage. If you can manage to shield yourself from all the gossip and rumor you will be miles ahead of the girl who thinks she has to "settle" for a great group of gals who will provide her all the opportunity, love and support that the higher prestige chapters can offer. Do yourself a favor and DON'T go searching for more information on this subject.

28StGreek 05-15-2012 09:07 PM

I've never been that fussed about my GLO's reputation (however that may be because I've never had to deal with hurtful things said about it) but if I had a choice at Bama, I'd totally want to pref DG. And I'm sure all chapters at Bama have wonderful girls, but how many are going to have that AMAZING new house???

rolltide10 05-15-2012 09:13 PM

Thanks guys, you've been helpful!

DZTurtle11 05-16-2012 01:54 AM

As someone who went to a Big SEC school where Greek Life was super competitive, but I wasn't Greek there, I can tell you a view from the outside. THERE ARE NO BAD SORORITIES! I knew the "reputations" and always thought they were silly. There are beautiful, smart, accomplished, amazing women in each and every group. I had friends in every one and they all loved their organizations. Guys want to date girls from every group. Each group has a lot to offer and will make you a better person. Don't listen to this silly gossip and just walk in with an open mind. You will find a home and find yourself a lot less stressed if you just let the process work.

AnchorAlumna 05-16-2012 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 28StGreek (Post 2146267)
I've never been that fussed about my GLO's reputation (however that may be because I've never had to deal with hurtful things said about it) but if I had a choice at Bama, I'd totally want to pref DG. And I'm sure all chapters at Bama have wonderful girls, but how many are going to have that AMAZING new house???

Thanks, but 3 other fine groups - Alpha Delta Pi, Alpha Gamma Delta and Delta Delta Delta - will also have amazing new houses in another year.;)

Seriously...you're going to hear some horrible, hateful things if you listen to the gossip and believe that you'll only accept "these five" or "those six" sororities. EVERY house....even the ones you'll hear are "the worst"...EVERY house has outstanding, beautiful women. EVERY house also has some...challenges.
Look for the bad, and you'll find it.
Look for the good, and you'll find it.
The best thing you can do is look for a place where you feel comfortable and welcomed.
RTR

28StGreek 05-16-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2146324)
Thanks, but 3 other fine groups - Alpha Delta Pi, Alpha Gamma Delta and Delta Delta Delta - will also have amazing new houses in another year.;)

Seriously...you're going to hear some horrible, hateful things if you listen to the gossip and believe that you'll only accept "these five" or "those six" sororities. EVERY house....even the ones you'll hear are "the worst"...EVERY house has outstanding, beautiful women. EVERY house also has some...challenges.
Look for the bad, and you'll find it.
Look for the good, and you'll find it.
The best thing you can do is look for a place where you feel comfortable and welcomed.
RTR

Oh I didn't know that. How wonderful! Are they on totally new plots? (Is this due to stadium extension?) As long as the new houses are built with this in mind; ample bathroom space, especially counter space/mirror surface area!

As for house reputations, as damaging and depressing as it may seem freshman or even sophomore year. Once you get to be an upperclassman, you realize no one really cares. If anything its more of a Greek vs GDI mentality. Even then people are more concerned with things like leadership roles; Order of Omega; honour societies. As far as social life goes once you're 21 you really don't care that much about someone's letters, since you can go to nicer bars and not bother as much with the underclassman 'frattiness'. So instead of being that one girl in lower tier XYZ sorority; you will be that one girl who makes really interesting contributions in class/organizes great philanthropy events/etc.

At least in my personal experience at USC!

And totally second the point that any large, 'Southern' style competitive school where the Greeks have many leadership roles in a variety of campus organization; ALL the chapters are going to be amazing role models for their respective GLOs and will most definitely have won many chapter awards. So there really won't be a 'bad' chapter.

At USC all the chapters have leaders all over campus in various organizations; on Panhellenic exec board; and even the 'bottom tier' chapters have members in either the Song Girls or the Trojan Dance Force.

Remember a sorority is about sisterhood first and foremost. You should be looking to be comfortable with the girls you will be spending most of your time with; NOT the boys you might be partying with.

Titchou 05-16-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 28StGreek (Post 2146329)
Oh I didn't know that. How wonderful! Are they on totally new plots? (Is this due to stadium extension?) As long as the new houses are built with this in mind; ample bathroom space, especially counter space/mirror surface are.

You must be new here! It's because they've added 2 new groups, want to add 3 more and some groups have outgrown their houses. Chapters are over 250 members, don't fit in their houses, and Alabama has the largest recruitment in the country with over 1700 going thru last year. And the new houses are all over 36,000 SF - HUGE 60 to 80 women houses with chapter rooms for close to 300. So yes, they have all that and more!!!!!

28StGreek 05-16-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2146337)
You must be new here! It's because they've added 2 new groups, want to add 3 more and some groups have outgrown their houses. Chapters are over 250 members, don't fit in their houses, and Alabama has the largest recruitment in the country with over 1700 going thru last year. And the new houses are all over 36,000 SF - HUGE 60 to 80 women houses with chapter rooms for close to 300. So yes, they have all that and more!!!!!

Haha not that new. Just been out of the loop being a responsible senior this past year. Or at least attempting to be a responsible senior!

As for the bathroom comment it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I have full confidence all the chapters at Bama know exactly what they are doing when it comes to building houses for mega-chapters!

After seeing the floor plans for the new Kappa house at Arkansas I was wondering if there was a niche market for Greek housing architects specifically; or if they are just architects who are experienced with large multiple unit/dorm style buildings.

I wish there were finance set aside update the fraternity houses at USC, they look so trashy compared to our sorority houses! (Well not the interiors since that might be just throwing good money away; but at least the facades)

Titchou 05-16-2012 10:37 AM

Yes, there are quite a few "Greek" architects out there. Your national's housing office should have information on them. As my group's former Director of Housing, I could give you quite a long list myself - and quite a few off the top of my head. As for your fraternity houses, that's up to each chapter's house board to finance any updates and plan for the future....just like sororities. Why they haven't - or don't - would be specific to each chapter.

KSUViolet06 05-16-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltide10 (Post 2146269)
Thanks guys, you've been helpful!

You know, I really was not expecting such a non-bratty PNM response. You're welcome and good luck.

And this, is how you respond to people who are trying to help you.

Titchou 05-17-2012 06:52 AM

Oh honey - some of the others are 40,000 SF...It's definitely a large house but not the largest on campus...I thinkthe ATO house has that designation right now...it's maasive.

28StGreek 05-17-2012 11:22 AM

I would just love a coffee table glossy photograph book of greek architecture!

AnchorAlumna 05-17-2012 11:03 PM

Maybe you should write it!:)

28StGreek 05-18-2012 10:56 AM

Perhaps if I become jaded with grad school I may decide to do so. Do you think there would be a market for such a publication?

ADPi Diamond 05-19-2012 08:36 AM

Here's a link to an aerial view of the four new houses at UA.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...3939760&type=3

If the link doesn't work, you can to the Todd Media page on Facebook. Go to the photos and look in the University of Alabama album. Roll Tide!

28StGreek 05-19-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ADPi Diamond (Post 2147065)
Here's a link to an aerial view of the four new houses at UA.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...3939760&type=3

If the link doesn't work, you can to the Todd Media page on Facebook. Go to the photos and look in the University of Alabama album. Roll Tide!

Thank you ADPi Diamond! This is so exciting. Do the other 3 houses have publically available CAD representations like DG did for their expansion recruitment packet?

DoctorD 05-19-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 28StGreek (Post 2147089)
Thank you ADPi Diamond! This is so exciting. Do the other 3 houses have publically available CAD representations like DG did for their expansion recruitment packet?

I googled and found this.

FSUZeta 05-19-2012 04:36 PM

what a nice brochure!

28StGreek 05-20-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2147123)
what a nice brochure!

I second this; thank you DoctorD

Also did some detective work of my own, and I found something on the new DDD house from their GLO specific forum here on GC

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=123754

Couldn't find anything for the ADPi house though.

As for writing a future coffee table book on Housing Architecture; what better way to experience wonderful traditions and panhellenic sisterhood across the country???


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