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DrPhil 05-02-2012 01:18 PM

New Jersey Tanning Booth Mom
 
There are no words....

Mother allegedly took 5 year old to tanning booth. She denies it and is being charged with child endangerment.

I normally post part of the article. But, when I saw this woman's photos, I did not know whether the issue was her daughter using the tanning booth or the woman herself using the tanning booth.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/im...I_XDwin_BoMWaw

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...HnS4v6u1KLMIgg
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/im...itJWiLSzGXlswo

Dayuummmmm, Gina! Black don't crack and if God doesn't give it to you, give it to yourself. :eek: Someone call that other Dr. Phil (the less cool one) and Dr. Drew.

amIblue? 05-02-2012 01:36 PM

That almost looks like blackface! OMG! I almost wonder if it's been photoshopped.

I can only imagine what the texture of her skin must be like. (shudder)

AlphaFrog 05-02-2012 01:42 PM

I want that lady to stop tanning and use the money she saves to buy some teeth.

Jeebus be the UV light of the world.

DrPhil 05-02-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2142901)
That almost looks like blackface! OMG! I almost wonder if it's been photoshopped.

I agree! :eek:

I kept looking through articles to see whether they were photoshopped. We shall see.

SOM 05-02-2012 01:49 PM

I saw an interview with the woman/mother involved-Unless she was wearing a great deal of bronze-like makeup, that is how she looks. However, booking photo seems to be a bit lighter than interview.

amIblue? 05-02-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SOM (Post 2142905)
I saw an interview with the woman/mother involved-Unless she was wearing a great deal of bronze-like makeup, that is how she looks. However, booking photo seems to be a bit lighter than interview.

Great deal of bronze-like makeup = blackface.

Sciencewoman 05-02-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2142903)
I want that lady to stop tanning and use the money she saves to buy some teeth.

Lol...She has teeth...her mouth is closed in the booking photo. That line is some REALLY bad dark lower lip liner...apparently she has equally bad judgment when it comes to cosmetics.

They were talking about her on the Today show this am and showed the pictures up close. Kathie Lee compared her to cosmetic surgery patients who go to far and don't seem to have an accurate perception of how they look in the general public's eyes. They think they look GOOD and everyone who sees them says "YIKES."

Kathie Lee should probably make a "note to self" on this as she gets older, because I could see her going down the same slippery slope if she isn't careful.

SOM 05-02-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2142901)
That almost looks like blackface! OMG! I almost wonder if it's been photoshopped.

I can only imagine what the texture of her skin must be like. (shudder)

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2142904)
I agree! :eek:

I kept looking through articles to see whether they were photoshopped. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2142907)
Great deal of bronze-like makeup = blackface.

Just did not look like make-up. Looked very real. And I would really doubt that TV crew would not make any kind of comment if they thought she was wearing some sort of make-up. One could always ask them directly-some of them have their own twitter accounts.

AlphaFrog 05-02-2012 01:59 PM

Ew. I see that now. When I looked at it before, it looked like her upper gums resting on her lower lip.

amIblue? 05-02-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SOM (Post 2142912)
Just did not look like make-up. Looked very real. And I would really doubt that TV crew would not make any kind of comment if they thought she was wearing some sort of make-up. One could always ask them directly-some of them have their own twitter accounts.

You say it did not look like makeup; I say it looks like she dipped her face in mud.

DrPhil 05-02-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2142907)
Great deal of bronze-like makeup = blackface.

LOL.

No, everything that is made darker is not blackface. Blackface is a historical and contemporary intentional process of darkening one's skin to imitate, mimick, and mock. It is not flattery.

It looks like blackface at the surface but it is not blackface. If this could be considered blackface, I would say that all people of the white diaspora (those who are relatively light or consider themselves pale) and do things to make their skin darker are doing so to imitate, mimick, and mock the browner and blacker people in this world.

ProudandTrue 05-02-2012 02:39 PM

What is even more unbelievable to me is that this woman is only 44 years old. YIKES.

Greek_or_Geek? 05-02-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProudandTrue (Post 2142923)
What is even more unbelievable to me is that this woman is only 44 years old. YIKES.

THAT is what jumped out at me first! She's got the skin of a 60 year old.

Mevara 05-02-2012 06:54 PM

When I see her pictures I think of the james bond movie GoldFinger. To me she looks like she dipped herself in gold.

amIblue? 05-02-2012 06:55 PM

I see a slightly darker Oompa Loompa.

Xidelt 05-02-2012 07:47 PM

How is her skin medically able to do that? Is it a horrible combo of sunless spray tan and actual tan with tanning bed??

Sciencewoman 05-02-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2143012)
I see a slightly darker Oompa Loompa.

Lol. I think the tanning salon should have cut her off, like a bartender is supposed to do.

IndianaSigKap 05-02-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2143039)
Lol. I think the tanning salon should have cut her off, like a bartender is supposed to do.

If one salon cuts her off, another will take her money unfortunately. When the TLC crazy addiction show first aired last year there was a girl in her early 20s who admitted to going tanning two times a day each time at different salons.

Sciencewoman 05-02-2012 08:29 PM

I'm sure you're right...sad. I hope she doesn't get skin cancer. It's scary to think that cancer researchers would never do to this woman what she's done to herself.

WCsweet<3 05-02-2012 08:33 PM

^^ I'm predicting skin cancer in her future. If not then she needs to be examined for how she didn't end up with it.


I believe I read somewhere that tanning booths are actually addictive. I'll try to find the article, but it gives you a boost of something and you just get hooked.

LAblondeGPhi 05-02-2012 09:35 PM

When I see those photos, I think of John Stewart saying "Joisseey"

GammaPhi88 05-03-2012 12:18 AM

I am unclear as to the law on this, but wouldn't a tanning booth maybe not allow a five year old to use their equipment? You'd have to wonder what kind of mother takes her kid tanning. Then again, I grew up with a mom who would use SPF 75 or higher on me...if it happened to be sunny in the winter. I'm still surprised didn't make me wear ski pants to the beach.

PeppyGPhiB 05-03-2012 02:16 AM

Just watched Anderson Cooper 360, and this woman was this evening's "Ridiculist" nominee. Not because she supposedly took her daughter tanning (she says she took her daughter in the room with her - to keep an eye on her - but never let her use the equipment) but because of her ridiculous tanning addiction. He showed several clips of her from interviews, some where she's so dark that you can't even make out her facial features.

SWTXBelle 05-03-2012 06:34 AM

Some folks have some sense
 
http://www.khou.com/video/featured-v...149717925.html

It is a prom pledge: No tanning. And for students at First Baptist Academy of Dallas, it has unanimous support.
While all proms have a theme, this one is a little different — dress for fun, but wear your real color.
"Girls look beautiful the way they are, in the skin they are in," said senior Kristen Verhuiden, who says she is proud to be pale.
She wants her fellow classmates to avoid the peer pressure of tanning. She says the golden glow has to come from within.
“We're just going to go natural and be confident in who we are," she said.

Sciencewoman 05-03-2012 11:29 AM

My daughter is a redhead and she has not one freckle. Even in daycare, she wouldn't go outside without a hat...it was like she had some self-protection gene. If I'm still around to see her in 50 years, that girl's skin is going to look GREAT.

PiKA2001 05-03-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GammaPhi88 (Post 2143112)
I am unclear as to the law on this, but wouldn't a tanning booth maybe not allow a five year old to use their equipment? You'd have to wonder what kind of mother takes her kid tanning. Then again, I grew up with a mom who would use SPF 75 or higher on me...if it happened to be sunny in the winter. I'm still surprised didn't make me wear ski pants to the beach.

According to the mother the daughter was in the same room as the tanning booth, she never got into the booth or tanned. I'm willing the give her the benefit of the doubt and say that this lady is getting a raw deal here. Yes, she may be a tanning freak but that doesn't mean she should be arrested and her kid taken away from her.

33girl 05-03-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2143255)
I'm willing the give her the benefit of the doubt and say that this lady is getting a raw deal here.

Rimshot.

NutBrnHair 05-03-2012 12:16 PM

This woman looks like a casting reject from the original Planet of the Apes.

DrPhil 05-03-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2143255)
According to the mother the daughter was in the same room as the tanning booth, she never got into the booth or tanned. I'm willing the give her the benefit of the doubt and say that this lady is getting a raw deal here. Yes, she may be a tanning freak but that doesn't mean she should be arrested and her kid taken away from her.

It is not difficult to determine whether someone (a child in this instance) was in a tanning booth. If the child was only in the same room, and there is no excessive heat or anything to cause the child harm, I am sure they will get this cleared and taken care of. Tans are not difficult to detect and neither are the effects of tanning booths on the skin.

As for this woman's addiction, as with that show Strange Addictions, there are aspects of these addictions that can harm not only the addicted adults but also the children.

PiKA2001 05-03-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2143275)
As for this woman's addiction, as with that show Strange Addictions, there are aspects of these addictions that can harm not only the addicted adults but also the children.

I understand your point but do you really think that she is unfit to be a parent because of her tanning addiction (being if she really is addicted to tanning and the kid is not being forced or encouraged to tan)? Shall we also pull kids out of homes where the parent is an alcoholic, shopaholic, smoker, gambler, promiscuous, an unhealthy eater, etc etc etc?

There is no such thing as a perfect parent so where do you draw the line?

DrPhil 05-03-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2143284)
I understand your point but do you really think that she is unfit to be a parent because of her tanning addiction (being if she really is addicted to tanning and the kid is not being forced or encouraged to tan)?

I would not know. I am not the one doing the investigation. The investigators will find whatever they find and determine whether her addiction poses a problem.

Sciencewoman 05-03-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2143275)
It is not difficult to determine whether someone (a child in this instance) was in a tanning booth. If the child was only in the same room, and there is no excessive heat or anything to cause the child harm, I am sure they will get this cleared and taken care of. Tans are not difficult to detect and neither are the effects of tanning booths on the skin.

The girl showed up at school with a sunburn. I'm thinking that mom's excessive tanning raised a red flag with the school staff...but from what I've heard, the investigation began due to the daughter's sunburn, not her presence at the tanning salon and whether she was in the bed or just in the room.

amIblue? 05-03-2012 03:56 PM

It's been a very long time since I have visited a tanning bed, but is it even safe for another person to be in the room while one is on?

Sorry if this is a dumb question.

DubaiSis 05-03-2012 04:07 PM

The bed is closed so the other person in the room wouldn't get much UVA (according to the dermatologist I saw today on The View).

I went to a tanning bed exactly twice. The first time, whatever. The second time I got FuhRIED. And never again.

The thing that always pops into my mind is wouldn't it be funny if people who do that to themselves are also racist?

eta/oh and by the way, I have two sisters who have psoriasis. They both have gone through "light treatments" which is really just a stand up tanning bed. Except that if I'm remembering right, they would do the light treatments for something like 15 seconds. And this was under full medical supervision, in a doctor's office. They were told to get real sun, VERY important, but never more than 15 minutes. This all just screams to me the typical American thing of taking something good and overdoing it to the point of being very very bad.

DrPhil 05-03-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2143346)
The thing that always pops into my mind is wouldn't it be funny if people who do that to themselves are also racist?


What?

AGDee 05-03-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2143304)
The girl showed up at school with a sunburn. I'm thinking that mom's excessive tanning raised a red flag with the school staff...but from what I've heard, the investigation began due to the daughter's sunburn, not her presence at the tanning salon and whether she was in the bed or just in the room.

My son got his worst sun burn ever while on a school field trip at this time of year, even though I had sent sun screen with him. A sunburn isn't proof of anything. If nobody saw the kid in a tanning booth, I don't how they'd prove anything. I suppose if the kid had no tan lines, that would be suspicious.

What bothers me about this is along the lines of what Pika is saying... there are kids in homes without heat in the winter, without running water, who are being abused severely, who were sexually abused for years by a stepfather who is still in the house but has stopped and, in comparison, this is pretty minor. Yes, this woman is a freak. Even if she did let the kid try out the tanning booth, I'm not convinced the kid should be removed from the home.

Sciencewoman 05-03-2012 05:46 PM

Someone must have interviewed the child, don't you think, before it went this far?

In the same way this story has garnered so much attention, I think the mom must have been the subject of gossip around the school and that just invited suspicion in this area.

AGDee 05-03-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2143383)
Someone must have interviewed the child, don't you think, before it went this far?

In the same way this story has garnered so much attention, I think the mom must have been the subject of gossip around the school and that just invited suspicion in this area.

In the report I heard, the kid had said that she goes to the tanning booth with mommy. That's technically correct even if she doesn't go inside the apparatus though. Even if she did, I would say that maybe she needs to be educated and warned, but not have the child removed from the home.

WCsweet<3 05-03-2012 06:43 PM

I was reading a different article about the tanning craze and this quote reminded me of the woman:
"'Indoor tanning is like smoking for your skin,' Dr. Doris Day, a dermatologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City"

I'd say this is just about right with her...

PeppyGPhiB 05-03-2012 09:53 PM

I saw footage of the daughter: red head with super pale skin. It would not be hard for her to get a sunburn from just going outside in the hot sun for a half-hour.


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